how many subscribers does it have? This reminds me of when Figure Skating World forum was purchased and demanded paying subscribers. People migrated to FSU and other boards. Luckily it crashed and died. People should really boycott.
I doubt they have lots of subscribers. Even if they have 10,000 subscribers, I believe they're still in a big financial hole. $300,000 a year is not going to cover their cost of hiring internet cops to hunt down youtube videos.
It's not a monopoly. These are rights they bought and paid for because no one else wanted them. The internet is the only place to see the vast majority of skating competitions these days. That's reality. Those who own rights are entitled to protect those rights. Icenetwork didn't outbid and monopolize the content. They bought what others threw away.
I know I am not popular with some for my views supporting IceNetwork and their right to protect their streams. Those of you who choose to delude yourselfs that IceNetwork is wrong and your desire to continue to post vids (whereever they originate from) that clearly violate their USA viewing rights clearly don't have the correct perspective. Also clear to those that support IceNetwork is that no amount of factual reasoning is going to change minds that care not to comtemplate with reason.
All your bitching in the world however is not going to deter the continued removal of videos that violate IN webcast rights.
Lastly I will not publicly embarrass one poster in this thread by name who came to my site and posted their filth in response to my views there. That only demonstrates total immaturity and a total lack of respect for a differing opinion.
I know I am not popular with some for my views supporting IceNetwork and their right to protect their streams. Those of you who choose to delude yourselfs that IceNetwork is wrong and your desire to continue to post vids (whereever they originate from) that clearly violate their USA viewing rights clearly don't have the correct perspective. Also clear to those that support IceNetwork is that no amount of factual reasoning is going to change minds that care not to comtemplate with reason.
All your bitching in the world however is not going to deter the continued removal of videos that violate IN webcast rights.
Lastly I will not publicly embarrass one poster in this thread by name who came to my site and posted their filth in response to my views there. That only demonstrates total immaturity and a total lack of respect for a differing opinion.
Let me guess. Who could it be, who could it be?Lastly I will not publicly embarrass one poster in this thread by name who came to my site ...
If IN/US Figure Skating would instead USE Youtube to generate interest again in skating instead of going after people who are posting vids there, it might INCREASE their viewership and subscribers!
I don't live in the US. Unbelievable is this may seem to you, some people live in other countries! IN has no rights to deny me anything. In fact, by asserting otherwise they're denying the rights of my legal broadcaster, who may want Youtube vids to remain available in order to generate interest in their product.I know I am not popular with some for my views supporting IceNetwork and their right to protect their streams. Those of you who choose to delude yourselfs that IceNetwork is wrong and your desire to continue to post vids (whereever they originate from) that clearly violate their USA viewing rights clearly don't have the correct perspective. Also clear to those that support IceNetwork is that no amount of factual reasoning is going to change minds that care not to comtemplate with reason.
All your bitching in the world however is not going to deter the continued removal of videos that violate IN webcast rights.
I don't know why IN defenders keep confusing things or misleading us. IN does NOT own any right outside US, internet or not. People are complaining their ridiculous claim of rights on videos produced by European broadcast, uploaded by Europeans, viewed by Europeans.
I don't live in the US. Unbelievable is this may seem to you, some people live in other countries! IN has no rights to deny me anything. In fact, by asserting otherwise they're denying the rights of my legal broadcaster, who may want Youtube vids to remain available in order to generate interest in their product.
I have to agree that I now use Ice Network much more than youtube. The picture quality on Ice network is a million times better. So I do like it. I do check out Youtube though for the Eurosport commentary. I always liked seeing what different commentators have to say.
I have to totally agree that Ice Network could so use Youtube to generate an income.
I disagree. IN's picure quality is not all that great. If you check out the alternative I mentioned dailymotion, their quality is much much better than either IN or youtube.
I disagree daily motion freezes more than IceNetwork, and then there's the hassle of having to find the skaters on dailymotion.
Really. Daily motion works perfect for me, there's never a freeze. Maybe you have to choose which country you're from first?
Hassle? I don't find any problem finding a skater on dailymotion. It works the same way as on youtube. You just type in the skater's name, and the videos will come up.