Robeye, that's a wonderful analysis. I can bear out the premise that sometimes the best teacher isn't the best doer. Years ago, I went to an art class over the summer. In my room, the drawing teacher was amazingly articulate, clear, and helpful. Everyone benefited from his commentary, even people who were just onlookers as he went over someone else's drawings. Some of his work was on display, and it was pedestrian at best. In the next room was the watercolor instructor. He could barely talk. If he wanted to let you know something, he had to paint on your picture and demonstrate. But his work was everything a watercolor should be. I once watched him make an ocean wave on a sheet of paper. A flick of the wrist and two strokes, and he made a curve of water with sunlight shining through part of it. And this was in watercolor, perhaps the least forgiving of media: you can't go over a section to correct it, as you can with oil, acrylic, pastel, or pencil. What's more, the inarticulate watercolor artist was a native English speaker, whereas the articulate drawing teacher learned English as an adult. Some people are just born to teach--as Frank Carroll clearly was, and a few others.
I had a good feeling about Brian Orser in this regard throughout his work with YuNa. I don't know what he did exactly: did he refine her jump technique? Just keep her from losing what she had naturally? Bring out her artistic voice? Whatever else he did, he certainly seems to have protected her from the almost incomparable pressure she faced. As a teacher, he seems to have crafted the best possible relationship with a student during a time when the stakes were as high as they could get. The collaboration between Orser and Kim created an unbelievable trajectory straight up. (Which made it all the more upsetting when they split, but that's another story). Clearly he's a good coach, and time may prove that he's a great one. I think Hanyu would be an ideal student for him, and I hope this is how things turn out.
As for the politics of the situation, I am illiterate on such things in general, so I will refrain from commenting. Let the future show itself in its own time.
he is useless after Sochi. I heard His image is worst in Korea, which will hold 2018 Olympics. Nobody would dare to sit with him in K&C in 2018. If he acted wise like Priscilla Hill when he parted with his student, he could be a hero in Korea now. and That would be good for his business,too.
Orser needs to learn basic coaching skills now. I don't think he knows those basics as a coach. how to cope with the situations when students leave the coach.. how to react students in K&C when they underperformed.
http://figureskating.about.com/b/2011/03/29/losing-a-figure-skating-student-ouch-it-hurts.htm
Orser never would imagine Korea hold the 2018 winter olympics when he made a fuss and manipulated media. I think he is not that smart when I saw him act like Guru or Yoda right after Olympics. That's OK anyway, but I didn't imagine he is that stupid to manipulate media over his ex-student and her parent. even revealed her next season programs,which he was not supposed to.
And, I don't think he acted it all by himself. He even cannot do a coaching job independently. Only thing what I can say Now is ''Stupid and mean''. ''Totally useless and meaningless thing''. I don't know whether he is puppet or not, and I don't want to know.......... But, It is Orser who got to live with what he did.
I recommend to skaters Michelle Kwan or David Wilson for a coach in 2018 olympics ,which will make good impressions on Koreans and spectators. Of course , I doubt it ... Kwan is busy, and Wilson is shy.
It's funny how before the breakup, Yuna's fans were singing Brian's praises. After the breakup, all of a sudden, he's a coach who doesn't know how to coach; he didn't do anything, it was all David Wilson...blah, blah, blah. So predictable.
Some skill is required to hijack a thread.
Some skill is required to hijack a thread.
Yes, so back to the topic of this thread.....I hope Hanyu continues to improve-I really enjoyed him this season!
Oh my goodness guys, let's not start bashing on Orser now.
I wish them the best of luck.
Oh my goodness guys, let's not start bashing on Orser now. He may not be all that great but good sportsmanship is always important. ^__^ Anyway.
Even after like 2 weeks of thinking about this, I still don't see how this could help Yuzuru any. Like honestly, even after reading all the posts on this thread and the thoughts on other people's blogs and trying to reason it out in my head, I don't see the logic behind this change. Maybe it won't be absolutely detrimental to Yuzuru; for that, only time can tell. But why initiate it in the first place? I think Nanami was doing a perfectly fine job of getting this 17 year old prodigy to improve by leaps and bounds in the past few years. If it was Yuzuru's agency (imagining that he has one), or the JSF, that forced this change, I really need to question their sanity. Aside from the fact that Orser might be "a bigger name" coach, there's no real reason to make the switch. Even if Yuzuru will be training in Canada, which is the location of the next WC, it's really not going to give him much of and advantage. Plus the Olympics are not going to be in Canada, so the change makes no sense.
There's a saying that goes "don't change horses midstream". Of course Nanami is not a horse, but it's the same basic concept. Why change something that's working fine and take the risk of it making things worse? The whole shenanigan just seems reaaaal funny to me. And I still doubt those people who say Yuzuru or Nanami initiated the change themselves. It goes against every grain of my being and it goes against everything I see when he skates and during the K&C and on documentaries about him and it goes against everything he said about Nanami and nope it just doesn't seem right.
I haven't commented on this change, but is it possible that one of the motivators for the change is similar to one of Yu Na's motivations? Perhaps he wants to get away from adoring fans and reporters while he is training?
I haven't commented on this change, but is it possible that one of the motivators for the change is similar to one of Yu Na's motivations? Perhaps he wants to get away from adoring fans and reporters while he is training?
Am I close to some truth to say that Mao represents an ideal while Daisuke is a guilty pleasure for his many devoted and passionate Aunties?
I haven't commented on this change, but is it possible that one of the motivators for the change is similar to one of Yu Na's motivations? Perhaps he wants to get away from adoring fans and reporters while he is training?
I haven't commented on this change, but is it possible that one of the motivators for the change is similar to one of Yu Na's motivations? Perhaps he wants to get away from adoring fans and reporters while he is training?
THank you very much for this comment! (and OS168 too)
You summary everything I feel, I say after found out that he now has his own website that I will miss Pre agent Yuzuru, I never know that things I fear will come this quick.
for me, It's hard to feel the same about him after this news is released; it just destroy what I used to believe. :disapp:
I suspect it's more of an ice time issue. One of the reasons he did so many shows after the tsunami was because it got him ice time, and we've heard that the popularity of the sport has led to overcrowding of rinks in general/less ice time for the elite (I recall Takakashi mentioning this once).