Artistry On Ice

[hongligl]

LuCN,

I'm searching for Zhang/Zhang's video, a reportedly very impressive program. Evidently they made good use of Hao's recovery time from his shattered finger.

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here is a link, posted by cranehxh
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjg2NDU4ODEy.html

Personally I like this one better, another Korean show version:
http://v.ku6.com/show/OC3m11wCMzXLwyMC.html

 

[LuCN]

another artical about Weir's interview:
http://roll.sohu.com/20110722/n314201283.shtml

“He(Patrick Chan) did good in this year's Worlds,but ISU's marking system is like "ancient curio" as always.There are many good skaters in china,hope they can challenge and make a change,don't consider just the points.Now many young people skate for a long time,but don't know what they are doing." he became more directly today compare last year,"Then let me make the rules,I can make a rule,and can represent Art and Fashion at the same time."

and about ZZ,their artisty side seems improved,but their technique side still not recovered perfect yet.I'm still worried about them.

 

[Bluebonnet]

LuCN, thank you so much! I enjoyed all the reports and info!

 

[seniorita]

Nice program from Chan, really different, i like it a lot!And he seems to have grown up since worlds, i dont know why!
I was wondering does he carries his dance partner with him in every show, or he buys a new one in ever city

 

[LuCN]

there seems more people in shanghai's show than beijing,I think around 90% full(but as I know,most of them take complimentary tickets from the sponsers or bought the scalped tickets in a very low price,very few ones bought the tickets with the original price~ )~

the rink is smaller than AOI's. there are 2-3 rows on ice seats,but don't sell to the public,only for the stars and the sponser's boss.Bin Yao,Lu chen,and many other figure skaters and coaches came,and many sports stars from other event,singers,actors,etc came too...

the BIGGEST STAR is chinese basketball player Yao Ming and SJP... it's a pity.the common audience give more attention to them then all the skaters,even SZ.

like Beijing show,Vladimir Besedin/Oleksiy Plishchukgot the BIGGEST response from the audience.they really don't care about skating...

Johnny's Bad Romance,Yagudin's overcome,Shizuka's Yugao,NK's MJ also got loud cheers.

well,one thing I can't understand is people from Shanghai really LOVE the SPINS so much(they give most ovation to spins on Art on Ice shanghai too...).in beijing,people also thrilled for the jumps,but seems shanghai's audience only care of spins...pity this time there aren't good spinners like AOI

generally speaking,they are not as passionate as beijing's audience...(not so many people throw toys to the rink,the organizers began to throw toys after every programs to make it's look better on TV...)

the sex and city group number,this time,Yagudin with Shizuka,Patrick with Cohen.SH skate to his last season's LP,much better than their EX.

somevideos I found,(no HD one)thanks to the uploaders:

sex and city group numbernotice again,they drink just water,not wine )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-7HT2dodqA

final,mainly singer:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/U74LXXsJGV0/

yagudin,overcome: (he roared "BRAVO" at the end,tears TAT )
http://video.sina.com.cn/v/b/57175572-1672293851.html
yagudin,tango:
http://video.sina.com.cn/v/b/57174376-1672293851.html

weir:
http://video.sina.com.cn/v/b/57195238-1672293851.html
http://video.sina.com.cn/v/b/57192089-1672293851.html

HD photo,only 2 from SZ,all Yao rest :
http://sports.sohu.com/20110723/n314319480.shtml

not able to go to Taipei show,hope someone can report it...

PS:Shanghai's show may broadcast on August on local TV.

seniorita,maybe~he brought the mop with him when left the stadium in Beijing,so maybe it'll travel with him LOL

 

[shine]

LuCN, do you have videos of the other skaters as well?

 

[Violet Bliss]

From my understanding, Shanghai is too far south to connect to skating. The big stars this time are Yao Ming and SJP for sure, whereas earlier it was Lang Lang when parents brought their music student kids and the event was billed as Lang Lang And His Champion Friends. Skating and skaters were not even mentioned.

Most Chinese skaters are from Harbin, for which Shen and Zhao have expressed much love and gratitude, especially for the elders. From what I've read, I'm most impressed and touched by Shen and Zhao's love of skating and their sincere goal and determination to promote and popularize figure skating in China, as a pay back for the support they received in their trail brazing career. They take their role model status seriously and take effort to help the young skaters, knowing what are important from their own early experiences. They ambitiously hope for figure skating to become a popular sport in China like pingpong and badminton.

Meanwhile the public is more interested in their baby making project.

 

[Olympia]

I just love Shen and Zhao more every year, both on the ice and off. They seem to be honorable people as well as inspired skaters. Their combination of fine traits helped them become world treasures during their career--like Gordeyeva/Grinkov and Torvill/Dean--skaters whose popularity transcends national interests. When they competed in the recent Olympics, I know I was rooting ardently for them, and I'm willing to bet that many other fans from different countries were also hoping for S/Z to win.

Their Turandot program in 2003 (I think) still gives me goosebumps.

 

[feraina]

Well, it's good that Yao Ming came out to see this show. Maybe that'll make the public notice figure skating more.

 

[Violet Bliss]

shine, and others who are interested, you can paste "2011冰上雅姿" onto a video search and pick from what show up.

And of course just Artistry On Ice and/or your favourite skater's name. Most videos are uploaded onto Chinese sites like Youku first and soon enough on Youtube but they will all show up in an English search as long as there are the English search words in the videos title or description.

 

[fscric]

LuCN, I just saw this Weir interview, he said the audience in China knows what they are watching - jumps, spins, etc, which is quite different from your observation. What do you think about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WOcap6mryA

 

[Violet Bliss]

^^^^ I linked that in the JW's Chinese Interview thread.

Audiences that cheer him are knowledgeable fans. Those who don't are ignorant. His Bad Romance video is labeled as "Johnny's Poker Face, Too Adorable".

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjg1OTkxNzAw.html

Patrick Chan's Moondance has been viewed so far more than 1500 times on Youtube while Bad Romance has been viewed fewer than 500 times though uploaded a day earlier. Evidently international fans are clueless.

I have nothing to do with Patrick's number. I block cookies.

Waiting for higher quality videos after TV broadcast of the Shanghai show.

 

[fscric]

What an embarrassment! Someone should tell the uploader of the clip his/her mistake.

 

[shine]

Patrick Chan's Moondance has been viewed so far more than 1500 times on Youtube while Bad Romance has been viewed fewer than 500 times though uploaded a day earlier. Evidently international fans are clueless.

what does this mean?

 

[Violet Bliss]

According to Weir, he is a big star in China because Chinese fans really know skating. (View his interview video.) The truth is his Chinese fans are mostly clueless about skating but find his Lady Gaga schtick and persona entertaining.

I was snarking with my observation that Chan's YT video is 3 times more popular than Weir's, reflecting the preferences of international skating fans, probably due to their cluelessness about Weir's superior skating.

View the two performances yourself for a knowledgeability test.

eta. I am so ignorant that I am sure the skaing skills he displays in the Bad Romance video would not get him on the podium of US Junior Nationals.

 

[Bluebonnet]

I find Johnny's bad romance hard to watch. I'm astonished at how fast Johnny's skating skills are falling. That semi-transparent body suit with diaper!

 

[LuCN]

fscric,Johnny is always very kind to his fans and audience.so what ever they did,he praises them and makes them happy,it's kind of "white lies".If you went to see the shows,you'll know who tell the trueth.
and about the name of the video,it's a sad thing,but many people here just see him as "Lady gaga on Ice" and just know "Poker face",they don't know the differents.It's waste time to ask common people change their mind,while they don't care about him at all.

SkateFiguring and shine,Patrick's video have much viewers cause some south korea site post the link too,and he's very popular there.while others are mainly viewers from china.

shine,there are still no HD videos as Beijing shows,choose some album which contain some other skaters,thanks to the uploader:
http://u.youku.com/user_video/id_UMzMwMTExMDI0_order_1_type_1_page_1.html
http://www.tudou.com/home/item_u4016565s0p1.html
http://u.youku.com/user_video/id_UMzU2NjU5MjI0_order_1_type_1_page_1.html

HD photos(first 10 are all Yao Ming...):
http://slide.sports.sina.com.cn/o/slide_2_730_13956.html#p=11

 

[Violet Bliss]

LuCN, I was refering to Youtube videos.

BTW, here is Patrick's DWBH in Beijing. You can always tell his appeal, and maybe the age of the audience and a bit of the local cultural bent in emotional display, by the reactions of the audience to his telephone gesture and when he blows kisses. The Koreans go nuts and the Russians were stone cold. Canadians tend to laugh at his grabbing his blade with a silly grin.

There are a few other YT videos of his Moondance as well but, as usual, the first one posted gets the most views even if often there are better ones uploaded later. In this case the first one is pretty good.

 

[Bluebonnet]

LuCN, I just saw this Weir interview, he said the audience in China knows what they are watching - jumps, spins, etc, which is quite different from your observation. What do you think about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WOcap6mryA

I believe LuCN is right. Figure skating is not a popular sport in China, not even as "popular" as in USA. It might have a lot to do with the expensiveness of this sport.

 

[shine]

According to Weir, he is a big star in China because Chinese fans really know skating. (View his interview video.) The truth is his Chinese fans are mostly clueless about skating but find his Lady Gaga schtick and persona entertaining.

I was snarking with my observation that Chan's YT video is 3 times more popular than Weir's, reflecting the preferences of international skating fans, probably due to their cluelessness about Weir's superior skating.

View the two performances yourself for a knowledgeability test.

eta. I am so ignorant that I am sure the skaing skills he displays in the Bad Romance video would not get him on the podium of US Junior Nationals.

I sighed a sigh of relief knowing you were only being sarcastic.

As for Weir, :sheesh: