Chan returning in 2015! aims for the Olympics

[Perdita]

Last season, we saw mainly Patrick's PCS vs Yuzuru's TES, but now Yuzuru is working a lot on PCS (and aiming for more difficult layout and maybe 4Lo too) and there are young skaters like Shoma who have lots of potential in both TES and PCS. I think it's inevitable for Patrick to acquire one or two factors that can pump up his TES. I don't think he is not thinking about that, so I believe his decision to compete until Pyeongchang means that he has a plan
Daisuke was 27 at Sochi and he could have won if he didn't suffer injury. So if Patrick stays healthy then there will be a chance I believe!

Apart from Pyeonchang, I can't wait to see him compete next season anyway. He's always great to watch.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Daisuke couldn't have won Sochi, even injury free... His quad had declined and he'd often < or << it. Chan's longevity and comeback will be heavily dependent on his ability to retain his quad.. Beating Hanyu/Fernandez will depend on potentially training a new quad.

 

[Esopian]

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY..............I'm so glad Patrick is coming back to competition. I still think he's the one to beat!

inflation/Hanyuflation or not, I don't realle care as long as we have someone who can fight against Hanyu and give us exciting battles with top notch skating

I'm really excited about next season because Patrick is returning to competition! Figure skating needs good rivalries and with Patrick coming back, round no.2 of Hanyu vs. Chan is coming soon! Can't wait! :yay:

Currently, with no one being able to beat Yuzuru if he skates clean and is at least 90% healthy, it'll eventually get a bit boring if he would always be competing against himself (i.e. fluctuation of his health). So with Patrick returning next season, it'll motivate both of them in possibly many good ways --hopefully pushing the boundaries of the TES and PCS.

 

[Perdita]

Daisuke couldn't have won Sochi, even injury free... His quad had declined and he'd often < or << it. Chan's longevity and comeback will be heavily dependent on his ability to retain his quad.. Beating Hanyu/Fernandez will depend on potentially training a new quad.

Sorry, I should have been more careful about making an 'if' statement like that. No one knows what would have happened anyway.

He needs a new quad, and possibly two 3As... ah that's gonna be tough.

 

[HanDomi]

He needs first to work on his 3A not on another type of quad, 3A is still the key jump and to be honest I can't imagine Chan doing something like 3 quads LP because it is the only way to make up some BV to Yuzuru if you are doing only 1 3A without combo in LP. It will be definitelly hard for him even more when Yuzuru will come with 3 quads but we will see



ps. Yuzuru's SP at Sochi nothing special technically ? Yeah right....

 

[oriquey]

Chiddy needs to work on his 3A. It gave him so much trouble last time. He'll need a tech specialist to fix that...which I believe he currently doesn't have.

 

[staccato]

I kinda... want PChiddy to stay on top of the pile at least at Canadian Nats bc I really don't see anyone else woth the qualities to be the top Canadian man at the moment. Also, his carriage and movement are a dream to watch, so it makes me sad whenever he fumbles, especially during inopportune moments. I really hope his sights aren't just set on what his mentality should be for preparation -- he should also have someone help him beef up his technical elements, because he's been losing quite a bit on BV and GOE in the technical side of things. PCS, we know he can get anytime. But his TES needs to at least move up a notch especially when there are skaters who can hit 90 on BV alone.

 

[ranran]

Yess!! This is a good news! Hanyu and Chan rivalry did not have a good ending last year. I want to see both of them avenge their skate in Pyeongchang, with many talented juniors chasing after them in the next 4 years this upcoming seasons will be interesting to watch!

 

[Tutto]

Great news! Maybe Machida will change his mind after all - wishful thinking I know, sigh...

 

[makaihime]

Not surprising since he did say he'll be back in 2015. Its always nice to have a variety of skaters in compeition and it'll be fun to watch what happens in the next 3 years :yes: The most important thing is that everyone remains in good health..

 

[chasingpolaris]

Best news since a long time and very much needed after Machida's retirement.

 

[Li'Kitsu]

Welcome back, PChiddy! I hope he stays healthy all the way and that he will give us many great performances in the following seasons

 

[sbaker]

Chantastic news!

 

[Wo|flax]

Even though I'm not a Chan fan, disliking him has gotten to be more of a habit than anything and I've been missing him now that he was gone so I'm glad he's coming back. I was actually hoping he'd come back for nats and 4cc and worlds, but next seasons good, especially if he can fix his axel, and have two new programs, and improve his emoting. Basically, I have very high expectations for a non fan. Maybe a new quad ((get a tech coach pls))

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Chiddy needs to work on his 3A. It gave him so much trouble last time. He'll need a tech specialist to fix that...which I believe he currently doesn't have.

That would be good for him to have. I can't picture him reworking his technique into his axel at this point though. He certainly doesn't need 2 axels to win at the moment, because it's yet to be determined if Hanyu can produce clean skates, and still has yet to produce a clean competition. But only Patrick's PCS can make up the huge technical advantage Hanyu has over the others in the field.

It'll certainly be fun to watch them go against each other.

 

[Bonesfan]

That would be good for him to have. I can't picture him reworking his technique into his axel at this point though. He certainly doesn't need 2 axels to win at the moment, because it's yet to be determined if Hanyu can produce clean skates, and still has yet to produce a clean competition. But only Patrick's PCS can make up the huge technical advantage Hanyu has over the others in the field.

It'll certainly be fun to watch them go against each other.

Do you mean Patrick doesn't need 3A and 3A in combination for the LP? Or that 2A is sufficient?

 

[HanDomi]

He don't need it 2x in LP as long as he skates fully perfect two programs and Hanyu misses one of jumps, but Chan skating two perfect programs is very rare also. But still his max TES can't reach even Hanyu's TES with fall, not to mention if Hanyu will skate fully clean his LP

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Do you mean Patrick doesn't need 3A and 3A in combination for the LP? Or that 2A is sufficient?

I mean one triple axel attempt is sufficient, IMo. Doing a second lutz is leaving about 2.5 points on the table but the risk is greater with 2 triple axels.

 

[Sandpiper]

I think Patrick needs some kind of change/improvement. Yuzuru seems to have really worked on the PCS side, and his "wipe out opponents with BV and GOE" strategy covers up 1-2 errors. Not counting the GP this season, he tends to fall once a competition, but he rarely has a total meltdown. Imo, Patrick Chan either needs to increase his own BV--really difficult at this stage--or he needs to skate a lot of clean programs.

 

[evangeline]

That would be good for him to have. I can't picture him reworking his technique into his axel at this point though. He certainly doesn't need 2 axels to win at the moment, because it's yet to be determined if Hanyu can produce clean skates, and still has yet to produce a clean competition. But only Patrick's PCS can make up the huge technical advantage Hanyu has over the others in the field.

It'll certainly be fun to watch them go against each other.

I would disagree. Hanyu with a fall and a level 1 spin beat a virtually-clean Chan (with a 4T-2T instead of a 4T-3T) at the 2013 GPF LP. Hanyu beat Chan by over eight points in BV even with a fall and a Level 1 spin! Even if Chan skates absolutely clean, there's still around a six or seven-point deficit in BV Chan has to make up in PCS--and I'm not sure if he'll get it over Hanyu. Chan skating clean at 2013 TEB received 96.50 in PCS, and his near-clean LP scored 95.48 in PCS at the 2013 GPF. In comparison, Hanyu with a fall at the 2013 GPF received 92.38 in PCS, and 90.98 in PCS with two falls at the Olympics. In the off-chance Hanyu is clean, Chan's PCS advantage will shrink further.

Chan has to increase his BV, or hope Hanyu has a meltdown, because Hanyu with a fall could still outscore him.