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Wait. Have Cain/LeDuc even been together a year yet? I don't remember.
But they are still a new team improving very rapidly.
Evaluating USFS world team selection
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Wait. Have Cain/LeDuc even been together a year yet? I don't remember.
But they are still a new team improving very rapidly.
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I think it is getting close to a year
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Good lord, people are still talking about Jason being sent to Worlds as controversial? Vincent Zhou shouldn't have placed 2nd at Nationals to begin with; a boring and undeveloped Junior skater who should have been in the 6's on most PCS and yet was given 8's just for having a Quad Salchow.
LOL.
Interesting strategy, try to make the boy fat
LOL.
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Consider how Nathan's boots were falling apart, he did an amazing job. Such bad luck for him. So proud of this kid, he just skates and don't blame on anything. That's a champion.
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Wow I can't believe people are still debating this. Vincent did a great job at JWC. Nathan did a great job at his first WC, handling nerves and boot problems very well. Jason did a great job at his second WC, fully justifying the faith USFS placed in him. It no longer matters what might have been. The US now has 3 spots for the Olympics next year because of the combined efforts of Jason and Nathan.
I do find it really saddening that some people don't seem to appreciate what Jason achieved here, 3-1/2 months after being diagnosed with a stress fracture in his landing leg: he gave two very beautiful performances resulting in new PBs for total score, SP score, SP components, SP TES; highest score for quadless SP ever; and an increase of nearly 24 points over his total score at 4CC.
He's not yet where he wants to be or needs to be with the quads to be a World medal contender. But today, no less a quadmeister than Yuzuru Hanyu gave a shout out to Jason for his performance abilities. He has a lot to be proud of and a lot of potential, and I look forward to following his continuing journey next year.
I do find it really saddening that some people don't seem to appreciate what Jason achieved here, 3-1/2 months after being diagnosed with a stress fracture in his landing leg: he gave two very beautiful performances resulting in new PBs for total score, SP score, SP components, SP TES; highest score for quadless SP ever; and an increase of nearly 24 points over his total score at 4CC.
He's not yet where he wants to be or needs to be with the quads to be a World medal contender. But today, no less a quadmeister than Yuzuru Hanyu gave a shout out to Jason for his performance abilities. He has a lot to be proud of and a lot of potential, and I look forward to following his continuing journey next year.
Please Nathan did not crumble. He came in top six and landed four quads. Jason did not soar; he fell on a quad and skated very well. But in the end I do think sending Jason over Vincent was a wise choice.
It's also worth pointing out that Nathan was fourth in the free skate despite losing 10-13 points from the falls alone. Edit: Bodes well for him next year!
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Are we honestly having some kind of cat fight over who was the weaker link between Jason and Nathan at the WC? Is it not even possible to take 24 hours to enjoy/celebrate the fact that we have 3 spots? I feel like I've entered some weird and unpleasant alternate universe...
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If I am not mistaken, we have three spots for each except for pairs. That's really something to celebrate! Let's hope that can translate into some Olympic hardware.
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Right? No other US man would have medaled. No other pairing would have earned us more than 3 spots. Vincent is the JWGM and has all of next season to learn how to cope with the pressure of skating against the best in the world. Everyone should be happy.
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amen!
I just noticed that the JWGM is only guaranteed 1 GP slot. Let's hope USFS works their magic to get him a second.
The USFS did acheive its 3 spots goal but I still fully believe Vincent got short changed.
Vincent will likely get 2 easily cause he's high up on the SB list, because of his JW score. Prior to that he was not guaranteed for any GP spots cause he had a low SB's score, so Junior Worlds was not a waste of his time, at least as far as that.
Agreed! There are so many variables that will go into who actually fiils those spots. I think Ashley Wagner burned her "wild card" option unless she is unbeatable in next year's GPs. She'll have to be in the top 3. However, I think Jason has won some consideration by saving the third spot but he still will need a quad and a decent GP season. The USFSA seems to be backing away from making the Nationals the deciding event but I still think it will have considerable weighting. Poor pairs! Unless something special comes about everyone will be fighting for that ONE spot.
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Now that we have 3 spots, and seeing how important having multiple quads are to high placements, the USFSA will (should?) more fully back Vincent and do everything it can to position him as a serious contender.
