Hanyu just won the short program at Japan national by a whopping 9+ points
Meanwhile, Patrick Chan will likely win the short program at the Canadian national by at least 3 times that margin that Hanyu posted, but what would that mean exactly?
I have a feeling that Adam doesn't have the patience to stick with a coach long enough to really see some improvement.
And what historical moment would you prefer for fs- like when a skater with 3 quads is losing to zamponi with the higest PCS based on less than stellar performance? Oh, wait it's not even the historical thing since it's too routinely done .To me, Chan is very much still the man to beat seeing how his PCS is still the highest based on less than stellar performances.
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Hardly the historic moment that a first GPF win by a Japanese should be narrated.
I should think that the difference between a 9-point margin over Takahashi (and even more over Kozuka, Mura, Oda et al.) vs. a 20 point (or more) margin over Kevin Reynolds and the other Canadian men is obvious.Meanwhile, Patrick Chan will likely win the short program at the Canadian national by at least 3 times that margin that Hanyu posted, but what would that mean exactly?
Nothing I have seen so far among the men this season that comes across as surprising to me. At this level, the ultra competitive men's skating is going to be very unpredictable. I certainly don't expect any skater being able to dominate it for years without losing a single competition like it was the case in Ice Dance for a very long time.
To me, Chan is very much still the man to beat seeing how his PCS is still the highest based on less than stellar performances. The mistakes he made at the GPF did not show any structural weakness in his skating or his jumping technique, meaning that his Quad is still as spectacular as they have been in the last 2 years and his success rate on that jump is still very high. Surely, no one can seriously believe his doubling a Triple Lutz in the SP is indicative of some problem with his jumps. Instead, his Triple Axel is becoming even more consistent than last year, which he actually landed both attempts at the GPF. Yes, there was the zayak, however, note that it was due to the opening error on the Quad, which chained to a series of mishaps that eventually cost him some 15+ points on TES if he had not made the mistake on the opening Quad - yes, it was that costly. You correct that single error alone, he would have easily won the GPF. So what matters is not the result but how the results was achieved. When I considered the why, there is no doubt in my mind Patrick Chan is in terrific shape and definitely on the right track towards Sochi Olympics.
At this point, I'm not even going to try and guess what might happen in Sochi.
It would mean 10% as much since at Japanese Nationals Hanyu actually faces numerous great skaters such as Takahashi, while at Canadian Nationals Chan faces a bunch of international nobodies in what is essentialy the equivalent of the Canadian ladies Nationals clown show of the second half of the 90s apart from Chan (and yes that inludes grandpa Sandhu).
I don't think WallyL meant what pangtongfan thought. I will leave it to WallyL to clarify.I agree. Why the poster you are responding to doesn't see the difference is difficult to understand.
I think there is no need to denigrate the past and present Canadian skaters who have not achieved very high outcomes in international competitions. They all worked hard to be as good as they were/are.pantongfan said:while at Canadian Nationals Chan faces a bunch of international nobodies in what is essentialy the equivalent of the Canadian ladies Nationals clown show of the second half of the 90s apart
And I'll say this again albeit not pc, Jason Brown is a top notch ladies' skater...(sometimes not even quite). I don't know what people see in him (even Rippon was WJC twice, Brown isn't and won't be). And he is not the kind of macho sexy skater ISU likes.
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Mrs. P, looks like we both were wrong re: Kozuka and Oda.
Didn't see it coming.
I have seen Jason Brown skating and he doesn't look girly to me. I saw creativity, good flexibility and attention to details but lack of big jumps, like Triple Axel or Quads. If the latter is what make you think he is a "ladies skater", then that's your opinion but I don't share it. On the other hand, the heavy make up, tight shirts, gloves that Hanyu wears - and his attempt to mimic Johnny Weir - really, the only thing missing is the flower crown. I can see some people will easily mistook him for a girl if shown to causal fans who don't follow the sport on an everyday basis.
There are a lot of ways that you could have chosen to 'defend' Jason. Bringing up another skater in that way, and judging him on his appearance like that, is just tasteless. We're talking about teenagers here.
Besides that, I suppose that someone wearing 'heavy make up' would at least try to cover up his spots
There are a lot of ways that you could have chosen to 'defend' Jason. Bringing up another skater in that way, and judging him on his appearance like that, is just tasteless. We're talking about teenagers here.
Besides that, I suppose that someone wearing 'heavy make up' would at least try to cover up his spots