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^ I think we are saying the same thing about counterrotation. Counterrotation means, first you are turning clockwise, then you are turning counterclockwise.
In a perfectly done Lutz you make the change at the moment of takeoff. In a flutz you make the change a split second before takeoff by slipping over to the inside (counterclockwise) edge, This makes the turning in the counterclockwise direction easier because you have a head strart, as in the case of a flip.
The more this debate goes back and forth, the more I am starting to like the suggestion of the coaches' group that George Rossano brought to our attention, Just roll the two jumps into one category, for purposes of the CoP. Under the coaches plan you could do two Lutzes OR two flips OR one of each, but you would not be allowed to do four.
So for instance, you would not be allowed -- as skarters are allowed under the current rules -- to do 2 flips AND 2 flutzes.
This rule change would also result in a more "balanced" program. The way it is now, ladies trying to max out their points use four of their seven jumping passes to do this type of jump.
In a perfectly done Lutz you make the change at the moment of takeoff. In a flutz you make the change a split second before takeoff by slipping over to the inside (counterclockwise) edge, This makes the turning in the counterclockwise direction easier because you have a head strart, as in the case of a flip.
The more this debate goes back and forth, the more I am starting to like the suggestion of the coaches' group that George Rossano brought to our attention, Just roll the two jumps into one category, for purposes of the CoP. Under the coaches plan you could do two Lutzes OR two flips OR one of each, but you would not be allowed to do four.
So for instance, you would not be allowed -- as skarters are allowed under the current rules -- to do 2 flips AND 2 flutzes.
This rule change would also result in a more "balanced" program. The way it is now, ladies trying to max out their points use four of their seven jumping passes to do this type of jump.
I am torn between "crasp" and shisp."Blades of Passion said:If only I had a name for "crappy spin position" that rolled off the tongue like "flutz" and "lip".