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Rgirl said:Arakawa: Even though she ended up third overall, this is the first time since Worlds '04 that I saw sparks and more than just sparks of Champion Shizza.
...could you see the smog build up in the arena? I grew up in Phoenix and I thought that was bad, especially during temperature inversions, but Bejieng sure has a tall order to clean up it's air quality by 2008 for the Olympics.
If they do that, they'll need to deduct for the lips as well, and make the lippers learn to take off on the inside edge. During the slo mo of Sokolova in SA, she was practically bending over her outside ankle in her 3F take-off. Not that she's the only lipper, but the one that was vivid after I watched four Tivo-ed programs yesterday.Rgirl said:Am also glad they used the email from the person asking about whether the judges would start taking off points for flutzes. I think they should have done so from the beginning and my guess is they will start next year. I know more than a few ladies who will be shaking in their boots if they do. Maybe they'll get lucky and shake to an outside edge just before their Lutzes.
Excellent point as usual, Hockeyfan. While the Russians seem to have superb Lutzes, they tend to lip. Americans, as per leftover Cold War politics, seem to do the opposite.hockeyfan228 said:If they do that, they'll need to deduct for the lips as well, and make the lippers learn to take off on the inside edge. During the slo mo of Sokolova in SA, she was practically bending over her outside ankle in her 3F take-off. Not that she's the only lipper, but the one that was vivid after I watched four Tivo-ed programs yesterday.
Rgirl said:Excellent point as usual, Hockeyfan. While the Russians seem to have superb Lutzes, they tend to lip. Americans, as per leftover Cold War politics, seem to do the opposite.
HF, do you know anything about the remark Carruthers made about their being two separate judging panels, one for technical and one for component elements?
Rgirl
I haven't watched my tapes yet, but I like the above two points. I would love to see a Technical Panel and a PCS Panel. there should be two different judgeship tests for these. It could also do away with that questionable Caller thing.Rgirl said:Questions: Peter Carruthers, while explaining the NJS, said there is "a technical panel and a program components panel." Later on, Susie Wynne referred to "the technical panel." I know separating the tech and PC judges into two panels was discussed last year, but has it been implemented?
Am also glad they used the email from the person asking about whether the judges would start taking off points for flutzes. I think they should have done so from the beginning and my guess is they will start next year. I know more than a few ladies who will be shaking in their boots if they do. Maybe they'll get lucky and shake to an outside edge just before their Lutzes.
Rgirl
kyla2 said:For my money, Shizuka was first rate and skated a beautiful program. Irina had a slight edge technically, but only because of her spins, presentation wise, she was no match for Shizuka. Under the old 6.0 I think Shizuka would have won the LP. Mao was great but lacked command of the ice, which Shizuka had all over her. Her age and lack of experience shows. She is also tiny. Let's see how she does after she grows a little. Irina's LP was not as good as her SP, and I hated her SP music, which according to Paul Wylie, Michelle is also skating to. Hopefully, different cuts.
Thanks, Doggygirl! Another shining moment of factual clarity from Peter the Dink.Doggygirl said:Rgirl, I'm 99% sure Peter was refering to the technical panel, which includes the technical caller (identifies the element and level) v. the judges which do both the GOE on all elements and the PCS. No change from previous years that I know of. I still think it would be a good idea!!
Thanks for posting those GOE numbers, Pitchka. Of course opinions are great, but it's also nice, IMO, that someone examines the Detailed Results, which make my lazy butt go cross-eyed. Whether we agree with the judges or not, I like having the point of reference.Ptichka said:Both Irina and Shizuka had negative GoE on 2 jumps. Irina had -1.0 on the triple loop and -0.7 on the double axel (both of which got extra credit for being in the second half of the program. Shizuka had -0.6 on triple salchow/ double toe combo, and -0.3 on the double loop.