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I can't wait to see this on tv. It sounds like a good comp for the men so far. Too bad about Eman falling. And gooooo Matt!!! Pull up a couple spots in the free! And may Johnny and Jeff do great too.
Rgirl said:It's still very close among the top seven. Although about 14 points separate Oda in 7th and Buttle in 1st, there's only a 3-4 point difference between each place. Any of the top 4 or 5 could definitely win with a great free skate, those in 4th or 5th especially if those with higher SP scores falter.
After all, we should not forget Sandhu's win under the COP at a GP event after being in either 7th or 9th place (I think--but you know my memory, LOL) after the SP one year--was it last year?--when he skated a great LP and everybody else tanked.
LOVE these close competitions! Though personally I'm rooting for Buttle and Weir. Go artistic and creative skaters! :agree:
Mathman, are you paying attention?
Rgirl
PS Thanks again, SailorGalaxia, for all the point totals. You rule!
Doggygirl said:You might be recalling the 2003 GPF where E-man beat Plush for the win. Wish he would have another skate like that here!!!
emma said:Well...I would love to see Eman skate clean, it would be wonderful. But, even that win was tempered because he Plushy who didn't follow the rules and threw in a jump that got 0 points (basically, skated clean but lost on a technicality). Anyway, Eman has the goods, he just has to put them on the comp ice!!
Yup, love those artistic and creative men, and I credit the CoP!Rgirl said:Go artistic and creative skaters!
Mathman, are you paying attention?
nicole_l said:Can we see Matt on the podium?
Pwease???
Also-- Weir's butt didn't hit the ice, and he got a deduction. Did the rules change?
I think the definition has been revised this year.Doggygirl said:This is what I found about "definition of a fall" in the ISU rules - page 48 of 107.
Quote rules:
falls -1.0 for every fall (of one or both competitors in Pair Skating); for
interpretation of this Rule, a fall is defined as the loss of control by a skater
resulting in both blades leaving the ice and the skater landing immobile
(event momentarily);
End Quote rules
I don't think Johnny met this definition as I don't think both blades left the ice.
Doggygirl said:To me, that did not taint E-man's win in any way. IMO, it's each competitor's responsibility to know the rules, and present programs accordingly. So....I don't think it's fair to E-man to say "E-man won on a technicality." I think it IS fair to say that "E-man won according to the rules in place at the time of the competition."
I realize my comments are "just a technicality" on some level, but I guess it's always bothered me - that line that E-man "won on a technicality." Why can't we just say he won? That's what he did!! I keep hoping he'll do that again some day.
DG
Here is the complete url, if you want to keep it on file.Doggygirl said:Mathman, I must have been looking at last years rules, or maybe the new rule was put on page 11...whatever.
Mathman said:Here is the complete url, if you want to keep it on file.
h**p://www.isu.org/vsite/vfile/page/fileurl/0,11040,4844-168609-185827-89562-0-file,00.pdf
This is a separate document from the long pdf file titled 2004/2005 Rules on the ISU site (which is actually last year's rules, despite the title). This new document contains all of the rule changes between the 2004 season and 2005. It is the only place where the point values for level 4 spins and steps are given, and other claifications (for instance about Bielmann spins).
Hocketfan posted it a while back.
MM