They can't hate on her jumps (beyond dispute the best in the women's field) so they try to trash her presentation/artistic side with the usual "Mishin's students à la Plushenko are only good at jumping" shade. I'm so sick of that tbh.Bravo Liza!!!
And I can't think of a higher compliment than being called the "female Plushenko," even if the haters don't mean it as one.
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I know. Thankfully, though, reading the ladies' FP thread (I missed the competition so I read it all in basically one go) the overwhelming impression I got was that most people were genuinely pleased and happy for her - which was so pleasant to see!
Oh, and I also came across these tweets:
Jackie Wong@examinerskating · 12 tim för 12 timmar sedan
Can I please please tell you how much I love Elizaveta Tuktamysheva's free skate??? AHH!! #GPF14
And this response:
tanja noranta@tknoranta · 12 timför 12 timmar sedan
@examinerskating I saw her live at Finlandia - she has a knack of making you feel like she's only skating for you
I'm so happy for her. Congratulations, Liza - we fans are so proud of you!
Liza with Popova:
http://instagram.com/p/wkRVWkO-gk
Some comments from Mishin:
"Among the participants of the Grand Prix Final, only Tuktamysheva and American Ashley Wagner represented the present female figure skating. Not because Liza is so old, tested various tournaments skater - Mishin said in a conversation with journalists. - And because she did skating feminine. And I think that our strategy with Lisa was right. We took a serious music for the short program, that was an alternative for children with sunny face. "
"Modern competition rules provoke athletes do as much as possible movements. Hook, vykryuk, rotate, raise the leg, bend the leg ... It's not what it was valued Soviet and Russian figure skating. We had Igor Bobrin, Yuri Ovchinnikov, Lyudmila Belousova / Oleg Protopopov, and other great skaters, who created the show on ice, and did not meet the judges countless squats, bends, and so on, "- said the coach."
https://translate.google.com.sg/tra...re_skating/20141213/794760322.html&edit-text=
http://www.rsport.ru/figure_skating/20141213/794760322.html
Mishin has been going on about how "Liza skates like a woman" this entire season. Clever PR strategy IMO. Not that it isn't true of course.
And I agree with his assessment about the current judging system. A "busy" program shouldn't be equal to a good program.
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Tuktamysheva soon skater will perform a triple axel - coach
""Only stiffness tournament schedule does not allow us to add to the triple axel - said Mishin told reporters. - Soon we will show it again and will show if it is correctly interpreted by our judges."
Also, the coach said that the strength of Tuktamysheva - correct technique of jumping. "Such jumps performed more Alexei Urmanov, Oleg Tataurov, Alexei Yagudin, Plushenko. And Liza is a member of the proper technique, - said Mishin. - Let me draw your attention to the imperfection of the world judging. If the rotations estimate rotation, the jump should be assessed jumping! And this is not done. I think that art, which shows Liza, will help correct assessment of jumps."
https://translate.google.com.sg/tra...re_skating/20141213/794761587.html&edit-text=
http://www.rsport.ru/figure_skating/20141213/794761587.html
Not sure about the translation but I think Mishin is saying that the current judging system does not correctly assess proper jumping technique?
But yes, it is coming... the 3A is coming. And I am excited.
http://instagram.com/p/wkRVWkO-gk
Some comments from Mishin:
"Among the participants of the Grand Prix Final, only Tuktamysheva and American Ashley Wagner represented the present female figure skating. Not because Liza is so old, tested various tournaments skater - Mishin said in a conversation with journalists. - And because she did skating feminine. And I think that our strategy with Lisa was right. We took a serious music for the short program, that was an alternative for children with sunny face. "
"Modern competition rules provoke athletes do as much as possible movements. Hook, vykryuk, rotate, raise the leg, bend the leg ... It's not what it was valued Soviet and Russian figure skating. We had Igor Bobrin, Yuri Ovchinnikov, Lyudmila Belousova / Oleg Protopopov, and other great skaters, who created the show on ice, and did not meet the judges countless squats, bends, and so on, "- said the coach."
https://translate.google.com.sg/tra...re_skating/20141213/794760322.html&edit-text=
http://www.rsport.ru/figure_skating/20141213/794760322.html
Mishin has been going on about how "Liza skates like a woman" this entire season. Clever PR strategy IMO. Not that it isn't true of course.
And I agree with his assessment about the current judging system. A "busy" program shouldn't be equal to a good program.
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Tuktamysheva soon skater will perform a triple axel - coach
""Only stiffness tournament schedule does not allow us to add to the triple axel - said Mishin told reporters. - Soon we will show it again and will show if it is correctly interpreted by our judges."
Also, the coach said that the strength of Tuktamysheva - correct technique of jumping. "Such jumps performed more Alexei Urmanov, Oleg Tataurov, Alexei Yagudin, Plushenko. And Liza is a member of the proper technique, - said Mishin. - Let me draw your attention to the imperfection of the world judging. If the rotations estimate rotation, the jump should be assessed jumping! And this is not done. I think that art, which shows Liza, will help correct assessment of jumps."
https://translate.google.com.sg/tra...re_skating/20141213/794761587.html&edit-text=
http://www.rsport.ru/figure_skating/20141213/794761587.html
Not sure about the translation but I think Mishin is saying that the current judging system does not correctly assess proper jumping technique?
But yes, it is coming... the 3A is coming. And I am excited.
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Ohhhhh Liza!!!
I am not surprised. I knew she was going to be a champion!!! I love her confidence in every part of the program. Her 3lz was a thing of beauty.
I understand her decision on the costume. Per the recent interview, she explored her own style, which happened to be the oriental. I assume she did not want to limit herself within the typical ice princess look and the costume is an outcome. However, the dress has to celebrate her figure as well. She can upgrade the costume, which will boost her confidence even more! Again, it's her decision and I will support her no matter what
I am not surprised. I knew she was going to be a champion!!! I love her confidence in every part of the program. Her 3lz was a thing of beauty.
I understand her decision on the costume. Per the recent interview, she explored her own style, which happened to be the oriental. I assume she did not want to limit herself within the typical ice princess look and the costume is an outcome. However, the dress has to celebrate her figure as well. She can upgrade the costume, which will boost her confidence even more! Again, it's her decision and I will support her no matter what
Regarding the costume, PJ Kwong at CBC (who really likes the dresses, btw) said something interesting: Liza seems to have a theme going on, and is making some kind of statement with the two similar outfits.
Now, judging by the interviews with Mishin and Liza, this probably is not deliberate on their part. But it has ended up being a theme, and it's attracted some attention/debate. I'm not a fan of having two similar outfits in the same season, but there's no denying they stand out from the rest of the field.
Now, judging by the interviews with Mishin and Liza, this probably is not deliberate on their part. But it has ended up being a theme, and it's attracted some attention/debate. I'm not a fan of having two similar outfits in the same season, but there's no denying they stand out from the rest of the field.
Medal ceremony, so pretty:
https://pp.vk.me/c624629/v624629997/f1a9/LW3bIvqOo4U.jpg
https://pp.vk.me/c624629/v624629871/10824/deVLXtmU2t0.jpg
Post-Gala:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4z-9O9IIAAB_Qe.jpg
(she looks like Elizabeth Taylor)
https://pp.vk.me/c624629/v624629997/f1a9/LW3bIvqOo4U.jpg
https://pp.vk.me/c624629/v624629871/10824/deVLXtmU2t0.jpg
Post-Gala:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4z-9O9IIAAB_Qe.jpg
(she looks like Elizabeth Taylor)
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I posted these elsewhere, but want to keep the Liza appreciation thread going (seriously, we need more posts here!):
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/sabinfire/liza9.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/sabinfire/liza8.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/sabinfire/liza9.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/sabinfire/liza8.png
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Yes, another one who sees the resemblance with La Liz -in some pictures it's really uncanny how much she resembles a young ET. We should call her La Liza, LOL.
Anyway, congrats to Liza and all of her achievements this season. Shows you can never fully write someone off.
) but I'm glad to hear she not only won, but apparently beautifully so. And now I'm off to go watch her performances!!Enjoying a swim at the hotel pool:
http://instagram.com/p/wmNayXzQd6
Interview in the K&C after her win:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaoLcSTqruk
New interview:
"Liza, what can you say about his yesterday hire?
Skated cleanly. Very glad that I could win the Grand Prix Final, given the fact that I was sick and go to the start and not trained in the best shape, so skated today a little bit hard, at the end of the program legs hooked. But for me, this victory is very important.
What was the key moment of the season?
I did not think about anything such. Just punted. Nothing now trying with the cards and not guessing. Just doing my job.
But you calmed down, stopped worrying and before the start of the competition.
Yes I Am.
How can this be achieved?
I realized that in life there are far worse disaster than me - injury, the Olympics ... People are faced with more global issues. I did not go to the shooting, and the competition. For me it is a holiday. Yes, it is hard, but nothing wrong with that. Scared the only one that can fall and get hurt, so you should treat everything calmly.
Yesterday you said that in figure skating you plan to stay another eight years. And these eight years with that mindset is able to go through to not like to be shot?
Man does not know its features. But I hope to survive. Failures happen. All wrong. But I'll try, at least, not to lose yourself in the meantime.
What most earlier knocked you out of a rut before the start, the competition?
Pressure. You see, as soon as I came all at once began to say that it is our Olympic hope. And how to live with it? This greatly influenced, weighed, because everyone was a hundred percent sure that I selected for the Olympics, and almost did not win it. Of course, it's hard. Especially when you're a public person. But then, when it's all over, I was, roughly speaking, forgotten. And I will prove nothing, just went out and skated.
That is an athlete sometimes benefit when about it a little bit forgotten?
Yes, it is hard to be always on the ear and mind when you discuss every start. There are people that other people's opinions are not important, someone who does not sit on the internet. I also try not to read some of the articles. But after so many victories number of negative comments about me is reduced. This is good.
This season we've had a lot of starts, the number has grown in quality, but after the short program you admitted that you can not always be at the limit of the form, accumulates fatigue, falls immunity. What are the implications for the next season if you keep the same scheme?
The next year, I think, will be a different tactic. It is very difficult every year, every season is so much to experience. Just now, it was necessary because I have long advocated, lost, and it was certainly a form to gain incredible speed to Grand Prix did not act among the latter.
If it is all right, then next year there will be no such problems. Beginning of the season showed that the tactics were absolutely correct, so I'm very beginning and did not argue with Alexei Nikolaevich. Once all is counted, then it should be.
Mishin said that the key to your success was the fact that he was to spend more time writing it, because Zhenya Plushenko is not trained, Arthur Gachinsky moved to Moscow.
That helps a lot. I'm certainly not alone. We still have a few athletes. But Alexei at all times enough. But I like it to me a lot of time. Everything is under control. Is training for competitions.
You have a very good program. They'll go. Know what they say about the actors, he found his role, niche and looks cool in the image.
Nice to hear.
But sooner or later you will want something new. In what role you see yourself?
I would love skated funny, comic program. By nature I am - a cheerful person, and I think that I could do it. Very much like jazz, blues. I do not like boring program. If there's pace, it's mine. Must necessarily be some trick to the audience it was not boring to watch. Even if you take the classics, something unusual to me the most is the pleasure.
December 17 you have a birthday coming up. What I want to wish myself?
Health. But some special dreams No about gifts I have nothing much to say, because I was the fourth year birthday passes superficially, because it is before the championship of Russia.
I turn 18 years old. Yes, I want to holiday. But did not think that I will give a brilliant gifts. I did not expect. Important for me to attention and desire to skate well the championship of Russia. You see, thoughts still come back to figure skating. But as long as it should be."
https://translate.google.com.sg/tra...l-vykhozhu-a-na-sorevnovaniya.html&edit-text=
http://fsrussia.ru/intervyu/579-eli...-na-rasstrel-vykhozhu-a-na-sorevnovaniya.html
http://instagram.com/p/wmNayXzQd6
Interview in the K&C after her win:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaoLcSTqruk
New interview:
"Liza, what can you say about his yesterday hire?
Skated cleanly. Very glad that I could win the Grand Prix Final, given the fact that I was sick and go to the start and not trained in the best shape, so skated today a little bit hard, at the end of the program legs hooked. But for me, this victory is very important.
What was the key moment of the season?
I did not think about anything such. Just punted. Nothing now trying with the cards and not guessing. Just doing my job.
But you calmed down, stopped worrying and before the start of the competition.
Yes I Am.
How can this be achieved?
I realized that in life there are far worse disaster than me - injury, the Olympics ... People are faced with more global issues. I did not go to the shooting, and the competition. For me it is a holiday. Yes, it is hard, but nothing wrong with that. Scared the only one that can fall and get hurt, so you should treat everything calmly.
Yesterday you said that in figure skating you plan to stay another eight years. And these eight years with that mindset is able to go through to not like to be shot?
Man does not know its features. But I hope to survive. Failures happen. All wrong. But I'll try, at least, not to lose yourself in the meantime.
What most earlier knocked you out of a rut before the start, the competition?
Pressure. You see, as soon as I came all at once began to say that it is our Olympic hope. And how to live with it? This greatly influenced, weighed, because everyone was a hundred percent sure that I selected for the Olympics, and almost did not win it. Of course, it's hard. Especially when you're a public person. But then, when it's all over, I was, roughly speaking, forgotten. And I will prove nothing, just went out and skated.
That is an athlete sometimes benefit when about it a little bit forgotten?
Yes, it is hard to be always on the ear and mind when you discuss every start. There are people that other people's opinions are not important, someone who does not sit on the internet. I also try not to read some of the articles. But after so many victories number of negative comments about me is reduced. This is good.
This season we've had a lot of starts, the number has grown in quality, but after the short program you admitted that you can not always be at the limit of the form, accumulates fatigue, falls immunity. What are the implications for the next season if you keep the same scheme?
The next year, I think, will be a different tactic. It is very difficult every year, every season is so much to experience. Just now, it was necessary because I have long advocated, lost, and it was certainly a form to gain incredible speed to Grand Prix did not act among the latter.
If it is all right, then next year there will be no such problems. Beginning of the season showed that the tactics were absolutely correct, so I'm very beginning and did not argue with Alexei Nikolaevich. Once all is counted, then it should be.
Mishin said that the key to your success was the fact that he was to spend more time writing it, because Zhenya Plushenko is not trained, Arthur Gachinsky moved to Moscow.
That helps a lot. I'm certainly not alone. We still have a few athletes. But Alexei at all times enough. But I like it to me a lot of time. Everything is under control. Is training for competitions.
You have a very good program. They'll go. Know what they say about the actors, he found his role, niche and looks cool in the image.
Nice to hear.
But sooner or later you will want something new. In what role you see yourself?
I would love skated funny, comic program. By nature I am - a cheerful person, and I think that I could do it. Very much like jazz, blues. I do not like boring program. If there's pace, it's mine. Must necessarily be some trick to the audience it was not boring to watch. Even if you take the classics, something unusual to me the most is the pleasure.
December 17 you have a birthday coming up. What I want to wish myself?
Health. But some special dreams No about gifts I have nothing much to say, because I was the fourth year birthday passes superficially, because it is before the championship of Russia.
I turn 18 years old. Yes, I want to holiday. But did not think that I will give a brilliant gifts. I did not expect. Important for me to attention and desire to skate well the championship of Russia. You see, thoughts still come back to figure skating. But as long as it should be."
https://translate.google.com.sg/tra...l-vykhozhu-a-na-sorevnovaniya.html&edit-text=
http://fsrussia.ru/intervyu/579-eli...-na-rasstrel-vykhozhu-a-na-sorevnovaniya.html
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Evgeni Plushenko: "Now Tuktamysheva athlete number one in women's figure skating"
Two-time Olympic champion Evgeni Plushenko said Elizabeth Tuktamysheva victory in the final of the Grand Prix in Barcelona.
"I am very happy to win in the final Grand Prix of Lisa Tuktamysheva. I train with her in the same group, Alexei Mishin, who has collaborated with for the past 20 years. Therefore doubly glad for the creative tandem. Lisa - a big fellow, she found the strength to go on the ice again after a serious injury and after missed the Olympic Games.
While everyone was shouting that she will not be able to return. And Lisa is not just able. She is now the number one athlete in women's figure skating "- quoted Plushenko Lenta.ru.
Two-time Olympic champion Evgeni Plushenko said Elizabeth Tuktamysheva victory in the final of the Grand Prix in Barcelona.
"I am very happy to win in the final Grand Prix of Lisa Tuktamysheva. I train with her in the same group, Alexei Mishin, who has collaborated with for the past 20 years. Therefore doubly glad for the creative tandem. Lisa - a big fellow, she found the strength to go on the ice again after a serious injury and after missed the Olympic Games.
While everyone was shouting that she will not be able to return. And Lisa is not just able. She is now the number one athlete in women's figure skating "- quoted Plushenko Lenta.ru.
