By the same logic, a 2A + 3T is just as difficult as a 3A + 2T. I'd ignore this "argument"
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Mao Asada
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By the same logic, a 2A + 3T is just as difficult as a 3A + 2T. I'd ignore this "argument"
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One of the most infamous epic fails by a skating commentator. That people still remember it almost half a decade later is evidence of it's level of infamy.
Stupid Scott manage to outdo himself in Sochi; he actually said: "Adelina is the ONLY woman I've ever seen do a one-handed Biellmann spin!"
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I miss Mao a lot!! Does she have Instagram?
I had started to make peace with the fact that she may not be back... but I'm so glad she's considering a return again. It would be nice to see her perform with the pressure off. She is already a legend, and anything from here on out is just a bonus.
I miss her a lot too! She has but it's private and she never posted anything.. yet (iirc)
By the same logic, a 2A + 3T is just as difficult as a 3A + 2T. I'd ignore this "argument"
Oh, I got over it, after all like my mom said some people are just aholes, they can't help it and I should feel
sorry for them.
He really said that? I watched Oly in tv and got British commies (not BEsp) and I totally despise them because of their blatant favoritism towards certain skaters. Oh well.
Awww, so Mao :yes:
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I thought I would post this comment I made about Mao's Sochi LP on youtube:
Mao poured every ounce of passion, elegance, athletics and guts she could muster into this performance, as she stars in skating's most incredibly dramatic comeback. If this can't set the World record, then the scoring system should be changed so that it can because this is the gold standard. As the Olympic pairs champion, Maxim Trankov said live on Russian TV, Mao was a "true samurai" who gave a performance of "maximum difficulty" that "only an Olympic champion can do," On French TV, the announcers said that it was "the performance of an Olympic champion tonight."
I watch Mao's performance as if I am eavesdropping on an artist painting a masterpiece on an icy canvas with their balletic movements inducing a soothing sense of meditation that draws me in slowly, and once my attention is captured doesn't let go. Then, tears begin to flow because of the supreme sense of transcendent beauty she displays, as she unveils the great depths of her sensitive soul, which transforms into flashes of fiery passion as she descends into her lightning quick step sequence.
Mao poured every ounce of passion, elegance, athletics and guts she could muster into this performance, as she stars in skating's most incredibly dramatic comeback. If this can't set the World record, then the scoring system should be changed so that it can because this is the gold standard. As the Olympic pairs champion, Maxim Trankov said live on Russian TV, Mao was a "true samurai" who gave a performance of "maximum difficulty" that "only an Olympic champion can do," On French TV, the announcers said that it was "the performance of an Olympic champion tonight."
I watch Mao's performance as if I am eavesdropping on an artist painting a masterpiece on an icy canvas with their balletic movements inducing a soothing sense of meditation that draws me in slowly, and once my attention is captured doesn't let go. Then, tears begin to flow because of the supreme sense of transcendent beauty she displays, as she unveils the great depths of her sensitive soul, which transforms into flashes of fiery passion as she descends into her lightning quick step sequence.
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Do you have the link of his blog so that I can read his comment about 3A2T?
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I did a google search and found this post by FlattFan at goldenskate from February 27, 2010 about the time of the Vancouver Olympics.
Originally Posted by FlattFan View Post
Mao Asada SP, LP were underscored. (see explanation below)
Rachael Flatt LP was underscored. Random downgrades. Her flips were fine, as good as Mirai's questionable flip that's clearly rotated on ice. At Skate America, Sandra was saying how she had so much transition, hard transition, going into her 2 lutzes. None of that was reflected in her GOE.
I just watched Figure Skating Review/Preview with Terry Gannon, Kristi Yamguchi, and Peter.
Peter: 3A-2T harder jump
Kristi: harder jump, yes. Mao got lower GOE on a much more difficult jump combination
Michael Weiss: Mao Asada 3A-2T, which blows my mind that it's not worth more. I mean, you ask any guy in figure skating that if they'd rather do a 3A-2T or a 3F-3T or 3Z-3T, they would always say the triple triple combination is easier. The front end take off on the triple axel is much harder so the fact that it's lower... A woman did a 3A-2T in a short program and I think that should be valued higher but Yuna gained her points because she executed well.
Terry Gannon: Do you think that they will go back and weight the 3A more?
Michael Weiss: Absolutely, the 3A and 4T are the most difficult jumps to do and should be rewarded I don't want it to be a jump contest, I like the other aspect of the sport, I like things to be executed really well. a 3F-3T executed well should be worth more than a bad 3A.
So there you have it, all 3 thought the 3A-2T are a much harder combination than the 3Z-3T and the base should be worth higher. However, they would give higher GOE to Yuna and higher base to Mao. In reality, Mao got lower base and lower GOE. Real skaters have spoken and unanimously agreed that 3A-2T base should be higher.
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There is a fantastic new post at fsuniverse. It it is a translation by rosewood of the show, Athlete no Harabanjo, the 20 hours between Mao's Nocturne and Mao's Rach 2 performance at Sochi. Here is the link:
http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/ind...say-figure-skating-is-wonderful.89260/page-20 post #579
http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/ind...say-figure-skating-is-wonderful.89260/page-20 post #579
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I totally agree with this. I do think that Yuna deserved her high GOE because her 3z3t (esp in Vancouver) was huge and amazing, but at the same time they underscored Mao so badly. I was okay with Mao's silver but I was offended by her low score.
This is one of the reasons why I hesitate about her coming back to competition. As much as I miss her, I don't think I can bear all the injustice towards her over and over again. I saw Tuk is doing 3A now and I shudder to think about how all the armchaired commies will compare those to and paint Mao's jumps.. not to mention her lowballed PCS (again and again and again) If it hurts me badly, I can't imagine how she must have felt.. (but I guess that's the reason why she's ballerina-on-ice slash samurai Mao and I'm only a spectator)
*sigh*
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By the same logic, a 2A + 3T is just as difficult as a 3A + 2T. I'd ignore this "argument"
Totally worst commentator ever that is Scott.
Oh well any pro skater would just laugh at someone saying 3Lz3T is more difficult thant 3A2T. And I guess the media back then especially korean media push the hype on the 3Lz3T making the people started to feel like 3A2T is like a no-big deal jump.
I remember Nicky from ESP once commented about how difficult it is to swallow a 3A2T having a base value of 9.5 lower than a 3Lz3T which has a bv of 10. Considering axel as the most difficult jump. Easily one of the grayest area in FS history.
Only proves his a pro analyst.
I really don't like the tongue of this british lady commentator. I noticed her rough tongue for Mao at the Sochi Olympics and into the worlds.
http://www.cbc.ca/player/Sports/Figure+Skating/Performance+of+the+Day/ID/2445581812/
British lady: "If she wasn't a national treasure before today, she certainly is one now."
Kurt: " Well she was before and always will be."
Well to begin with Kurt had been commentating at the beginning of Mao's career so his words are more valuable than this British lady. Thanks to Kurt for loving Mao!
http://www.cbc.ca/player/Sports/Figure+Skating/Performance+of+the+Day/ID/2445581812/
British lady: "If she wasn't a national treasure before today, she certainly is one now."
Kurt: " Well she was before and always will be."
Well to begin with Kurt had been commentating at the beginning of Mao's career so his words are more valuable than this British lady. Thanks to Kurt for loving Mao!
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@gotoschool do you have the video of Mao Asada's lp 2010 worlds by CBC?
Sorry I can't find that CBC version of Mao's 2010 Worlds LP. I did find this though. At fsuniverse, rosewood posted this clip of Mao practicing the triple axel again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMsq7XEpLJg
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I am kinda new so I don’t know the detailed process(although I have liked her since a long time). but what I was amazed and have heard till now is that also in Japan,many had made reference to the same thing what you guys pointed out here.
It seemed that they had pretty much given up the judges when it came to Mao and still aren’t able to get/accept the fact that She was underscored in the GOE, PCS over and over again and the un-rewarded 3A in BV, As some fans said above. It is really heartbroken to hear that though….
Anyway, at least Im glad for the fact that she is the current world record holder at SP and still be loved by so many in the world
It seemed that they had pretty much given up the judges when it came to Mao and still aren’t able to get/accept the fact that She was underscored in the GOE, PCS over and over again and the un-rewarded 3A in BV, As some fans said above. It is really heartbroken to hear that though….
Anyway, at least Im glad for the fact that she is the current world record holder at SP and still be loved by so many in the world
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Thank you for sharing it to us. Mao looks fine.
