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Ban on Carolina Kostner Over
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I just remembered the case of Kyoko Ina. Right after SLC she was at home and WADA came to her home at around 9 or 10 pm unannounced. Um, what are you the police? She said she had just peed and would give a sample immediately in the morning but she was going to bed. Then she got slammed with a ban. Seriously, I'd love to know how many women are banned versus men, because the women who get the punishments seem to just be a matter of paperwork with no thought. The male superstars get treated with kid gloves EVEN with dirty screens. Why tear down Kyoko Ina? She was never going to compete anyway, but I didn't think WADA could just show up unannounced at your residence and demand a urine sample. It appears to me the WADA is harder on the women.
As for Carolina, I can totally understand her wanting to give WADA a F OFF and just lie to them. BUT, she is also an elite athlete, and should have used better judgment. Whatever, she has no intentions to compete under WADA anymore. I'd tell them to go to H.
As for Carolina, I can totally understand her wanting to give WADA a F OFF and just lie to them. BUT, she is also an elite athlete, and should have used better judgment. Whatever, she has no intentions to compete under WADA anymore. I'd tell them to go to H.
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Looks like this was USADA, not WADA.
Anyway, I don´t see this as sexist, Carolina´s ex was banned, and this investigation is for the people involve, so I think others related to the subject will also be punished in the future.
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Yes, it could be. But it's not exactly fair.
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They want to make an example out of her..... not unlike the mob.
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Karne, thanks. I completely agree.
I've noticed lately there have been numerous posts on various topics with the theme: That's Not Fair
Just because something is unfortunate, sad, regrettable... it doesn't mean it's not fair.
You tontok and karne are saying a foolish thing. You don't know anything about this law. The decision is COMPLETELY WRONG because she has been condamned for complicity WITHOUT no evidences . She knowingly only lied to inspectors about Alex's presence but she was totally unaware of doping.
You know nothing about facts, rules, italian law, and you want to judge. Unbelieveble that a lot of people here don't believe in me, a lawyer, and go on judging and telling stupid things. She didn't break that law. At all.
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You're right, so help me out.
Under what circumstances is it perfectly fine to "knowingly lie to inspectors" ???
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No-one is saying she broke Italian law. What she did break are the rules of anti-doping, to which she is bound.
Anyway, you could forgive the mistake if someone did say law, since this was the country that attempted to prosecute FIVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME for the "murder" of Ayrton Senna.
OT but a bit of bright news:
Carolina is in Japan and performing at Figure Skating Festival in Kanagawa this weekend
along with Plushy, Stephane, Brian, Nobu and other skaters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tw9mmashyE&feature=youtu.be
Carolina is in Japan and performing at Figure Skating Festival in Kanagawa this weekend
along with Plushy, Stephane, Brian, Nobu and other skaters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tw9mmashyE&feature=youtu.be
She has been condamned for 'complicity' . And this decision is wrong, because there are no evidences of her knowledge of Alex's doping. The only right accuse is the lie about the presence of Alex that in morning in the house. It is right to condemn her for the lie, but not for complicity in the doping. Is it understandable now? I hope so.
It isn't fine. But when there is a trial there is also a charge . She was charged with the lie and with the complicity. Two counts of indictments. The complicity wasn't proved . she didn't know anything about alex 's doping. It is right to condemn her for lying about the presence of Alex in the house that morning ( she is sure that the problem was the right residence where the inspectors could look for Alex) but it isn't right to condemn her for complicity in doping. Is it so difficult to understand? Two different counts of indictments. One is proved, the other not at all. She is guilty for the first, and innocent for the second. Clear now?
I'm not saying there shouldn't be repercussions for her lying to the inspectors. I'm saying that the severity of her punishment is out of line with the severity of his punishment given the severity of each of their actions. Those are two separate issues. The punishment needs to fit the severity of the infraction, and an infraction such as actual doping is orders of magnitude more severe than telling inspectors "no, he's not here" and then tell he ex-bf to go where he was supposed to be and get tested.
What I find interessting is, that racewalking seems to be more important than figure skating to the Italian sport officials at the moment. I mean (no offends) this is Italy, they could do something for her (they probably will anyway) if they really wanted to. She's their iceprincess, they love her.
I'm sure she at least sensed that there's something wrong with the behaviour of her boyfriend, but as we all know, one sometimes wants everything to be fine and tends to overlook a lot in relationships. Meeting Dr. Ferrari for example (I really have a problem with that, even if she hasn't actually met him (what Dr. Ferrari says she did! He later denied it.), she at least knew that her boyfriend was meeting a certain doctor. Very fishy.).
I'm sure she at least sensed that there's something wrong with the behaviour of her boyfriend, but as we all know, one sometimes wants everything to be fine and tends to overlook a lot in relationships. Meeting Dr. Ferrari for example (I really have a problem with that, even if she hasn't actually met him (what Dr. Ferrari says she did! He later denied it.), she at least knew that her boyfriend was meeting a certain doctor. Very fishy.).
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