Russian Qualifiers and other important competitions

[voolfee]

Kovtun and Sotnikova have best conditions - only 4 skaters at ice rink.
All others - about 20 skaters, including very young skaters who don't control situation and may disturb other skaters.

How do you imagine the training among 20 figure skaters? :scratch: I think they are training at most with 10 other figure skaters.

Radionova - less practice than others. She is very talented but lazy, has problems with her coach because she often doesn't work hard at practice.

Where did you get all this false information? Radionova isn't lazy, and she hadn't problems with her coach. Inna Goncharenko for her as a second mother, and she said in an interview that Elena is very hardworking.

 

[AlexRus]

Where did you get all this false information?

Radionova is very talented and artistic skater.
And she may earn competitive state in very short time.
And her successful life in figure skating is well-known.
Now she is No 1 in world female skating I believe.

But she works at practice less hard than most of other top skaters - it is also a fact.

 

[witcher]

2nd Event of Spartakiad of Pupils, 20-25 Jan, Stary Oskol.
Zonal competition. zone - European part (except Volga and Ural).
Men, Ladies Junior and 1st Grade.

What is the difference between Ladies Junior (what is "КМС"?) and 1st Grade?

 

[voolfee]

What is the difference between Ladies Junior (what is "КМС"?) and 1st Grade?

"КМС" - Candidate Master of Sports;
1st Grade - 1st sports category.

 

[voolfee]

she works at practice less hard than most of other top skaters - it is also a fact.

Where did you get this information?

 

[AlexRus]

What is the difference between Ladies Junior (what is "КМС"?) and 1st Grade?

"КМС" (Candidate to Master of Sports) is the same as ISU Junior.
Junior is next higher grade above 1st grade.
Programs are similar. The only difference for 1st grade is in SP - may be combo 2+2 both for Men and Ladies and solo jump may be any double or triple.

In fact, 1st grade skaters are younger and lower level than juniors.

 

[voolfee]

Programs are similar. The only difference for 1st grade is in SP - may be combo 2+2 both for Men and Ladies and solo jump may be any double or triple.

Please don't write what you don't know. In Russia in competitions of "1st sports category" leaders among girls and boys jump combinations 3+3. Among girls, it's certainly a rarity, but the boys are jumping.

 

[Sophie-Anna]

They are in the same league as Kostner and work hard as she did.

At most - 5 days a week two ice sessions (1.5 hours each), one day one ice session, plus off-ice one to two hours. One day a week for rest (it may or may not be Sunday).
Kovtun and Sotnikova have best conditions - only 4 skaters at ice rink.
All others - about 20 skaters, including very young skaters who don't control situation and may disturb other skaters.

Radionova - less practice than others. She is very talented but lazy, has problems with her coach because she often doesn't work hard at practice.
Her results look absolutely fantastic if to know, for example, that before GPF she was seriously ill (and was planned to WD) and had only about two days of practice after illness at her ice rink before flight to Barselona, and in Barselona she was not fully healed.

Where did you get information about Lena Radionova being lazy and doesn't work hard? I'm not trying defending her or something but I read that she is very hard working. When there's practice during competition other skaters may just leave the ice sooner or at the end just skating from side to side, but Lena is trying all the difficult jumping passes till the practice is ended. So I wanna know where is the source of the information.

 

[AlexRus]

Please don't write what you don't know. In Russia in competitions of "1st sports category" leaders among girls and boys jump combinations 3+3. Among girls, it's certainly a rarity, but the boys are jumping.

Please don't write what you don't know.
See http://www.minsport.gov.ru/sport/high-sport/edinaya-vserossiyska/1717/ about figure skating.
Difference betwen "KMS" (Junior) and 1st Grade is from there.

Best 1st Grade girls are of the same level that best Junior girls, yes.
But in general 1st Grade skaters are younger and lower level than Junior skaters.

 

[AlexRus]

Where did you get information about Lena Radionova being lazy and doesn't work hard?

It is not a secret at CSKA sklating rink.

She not "doesn't work hard", but being extremely talented has her excellent results working less hard (except just before competitions) than other girls.

 

[AlexRus]

2nd Event of Spartakiad of Pupils, 20-25 Jan, Stary Oskol.

http://fsrussia.ru/results/1415/sparta2etap1415_stoskol/CAT001RS.HTM
Junior Ice Dance Final Results Top 3 of 9
FPl. Name Region Points SD FD
1 Anastasia SHPILEVAYA / Grigory SMIRNOV Moscow 137.60 2 1
2 Darya Shirokhova / Nikita Nazarov MoscowDistrict 130.20 1 3
3 Ksenia Konkina / George Revia MoscowDistrict 123.93 4 2

http://fsrussia.ru/results/1415/sparta2etap1415_stoskol/CAT003RS.HTM
Junior Men Final Results Top 3 of 24
FPl. Name Region Points SP FP
1 Alexander SAMARIN Moscow 209.43 1 1
2 Daniil BERNADINER Moscow 189.77 3 2
3 Dmitry Shutkov StPetersburg 175.45 5 3

 

[AlexRus]

2nd Event of Spartakiad of Pupils, 20-25 Jan, Stary Oskol.

Maria Sotskova was planned to this competition, but she is ill and substituted by Polina Tsurskaya.
Info from Russian forum http://forum.fsonline.ru/index.php?...акиады-учащихся-россии-20-25-янв/#entry474262

 

[Totentanz]

2nd Event of Spartakiad of Pupils, 20-25 Jan, Stary Oskol.

Maria Sotskova was planned to this competition, but she is ill and substituted by Polina Tsurskaya.
Info from Russian forum http://forum.fsonline.ru/index.php?...акиады-учащихся-россии-20-25-янв/#entry474262

Wishing speedy recovery to Maria, I hope this won't effect her performance at Junior Nationals.

 

[AlexRus]

Wishing speedy recovery to Maria, I hope this won't effect her performance at Junior Nationals.

Yes, we all wish this.

 

[AlexRus]

2nd Event of Spartakiad of Pupils, 20-25 Jan, Stary Oskol.

http://fsrussia.ru/results/1415/sparta2etap1415_stoskol/SEG008.HTM
1st Grade Men Final Results Top 3 of 15
FPl. Name Region Points SP FP
1 Ilya Skirda Moscow 178.55 1 1
2 Artur Danielyan Volgograd 161.24 2 2
3 Andery Petrenko StPetersburg 150.00 3 3

 

[AlexRus]

2nd Event of Spartakiad of Pupils, 20-25 Jan, Stary Oskol.

Junior Ladies SP started.
No livestream, no comments of spectators, no videos.
Only table http://fsrussia.ru/results/1415/sparta2etap1415_stoskol/SEG009.HTM

Medvedeva has StNo 13, Tsurskaya StNo 23.


Evgenia Medvedeva 70.21 = TES 39.77 + PCS 30.44
Currently first, of course.

Polina Tsurskaya 67.77 total, 38.53 TES.
Currently second.

Junior Ladies, SP, top 3 of 38
Pl. Name Region TSS= TES+ PCS+ SS TR PE CH IN Deduction- StN.
1 Evgenia Medvedeva Moscow 70.21 39.77 30.44 7.50 7.45 7.70 7.75 7.65 0.00 #13
2 Polina Tsurskaya Moscow 67.77 38.53 29.24 7.25 7.20 7.35 7.40 7.35 0.00 #23
3 Maria Gorokhova StPetersburg 53.59 29.75 23.84 6.05 5.85 5.95 6.00 5.95 0.00 #24

 

[AlexRus]

2nd Event of Spartakiad of Pupils, 20-25 Jan, Stary Oskol.

1st Grade girls, SP, top 3 of 23
Pl. Name Region TSS= TES+ PCS+ SS TR PE CH IN Deduction- StN. Video
1 Ekaterina Mitrofanova Moscow 60.90 36.96 23.94 6.08 5.92 6.00 5.92 6.00 0.00 #18 SP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsSi46oMl0o FS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_EbN0CtM7c
2 Veronika Monat MoscowDistrict 54.99 32.51 22.48 5.58 5.50 5.67 5.67 5.67 0.00 #20 SP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2o6IVMtlIA FS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxATWOznNvw
3 Elizaveta Shilenko StPetersburg 52.30 31.50 20.80 5.17 5.08 5.33 5.17 5.25 0.00 #7 SP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzdEYpOTyjs FS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxcyzIvcW6k

 

[AlexRus]

2nd Event of Spartakiad of Pupils, 20-25 Jan, Stary Oskol.

Final Protocols http://fsrussia.ru/files/docs/competitons/1415/sparta2etap1415_stoskol_protocol.pdf

Videos FS
Medvedeva http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cszurHFEFpE
Tsurskaya http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byQ--0ePPVQ

Many videos http://www.youtube.com/user/mihsersh/videos

 

[Amer]

Do we know who's qualified for Russian Junior Nationals?

 

[silverfoxes]

Do we know who's qualified for Russian Junior Nationals?

Here's the list (in Cyrillic):

http://fsrussia.ru/files/docs/competitons/1415/junnat1415_sostav.pdf

Google translate version:

https://translate.google.com/transl...etitons/1415/junnat1415_sostav.pdf&edit-text=