What a split jump photo!
The guardian has posted the split jump and named it the sport picture of the day:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/picture/2015/apr/19/sport-picture-of-the-day-flying-ice-dancer
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The guardian has posted the split jump and named it the sport picture of the day:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/picture/2015/apr/19/sport-picture-of-the-day-flying-ice-dancer
It is a lovely photo. My fave spilt jump photo is still this one: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/13/s...ciplined-approach-yields-joy-on-ice.html?_r=0
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/10/article-2555559-1B569FCD00000578-960_634x447.jpg
Still my favorite, I just love all the cameras looking for the shot.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2555559/US-figure-skaters-unfashionable-ponytail-causes-sensation.html
Still my favorite, I just love all the cameras looking for the shot.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2555559/US-figure-skaters-unfashionable-ponytail-causes-sensation.html
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apparently, Jason's fav split jump is the guardian one. he used as his profile photo on his newly opened Chinese weibo account
http://www.weibo.com/u/5591185566#1429459637225
http://www.weibo.com/u/5591185566#1429459637225
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I like all of the ones you guys chose, but I think this one (a forward split) is my favorite:
http://mobile.gazettenet.com/home/1...n-wins-first-us-title-holding-off-adam-rippon
Apologies - i couldn't link directly to the image; it's the third one in the article.
I have to say that there are a whole lot of beautiful photos of Jason out there.
ETA when I clicked on the link the images had become blurry, so hope you don't experience same problem.
http://mobile.gazettenet.com/home/1...n-wins-first-us-title-holding-off-adam-rippon
Apologies - i couldn't link directly to the image; it's the third one in the article.
I have to say that there are a whole lot of beautiful photos of Jason out there.
ETA when I clicked on the link the images had become blurry, so hope you don't experience same problem.
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Yes I remember you mentioned that! I love that NYT article, and the picture is quite amazing. When I was googling images of him to try to find this one, it was such a pleasure to see so many gorgeous photos. The ones from last year, both programs, are really wonderful, especially when they catch him in some amazing position you didn't know the body could do.
Should have added that ISU bios tend to not be updated in a timely manner re: heights.
Anyway I got curious so I looked at some old podium pix of Jason, Max AND Josh (who is listed at 5'9")
2010 Nationals: Jason is way shorter than both Josh and Max. He was 5'1" then. http://www.iceskatingintnl.com/images/nationals/2010 Nationals/us 2010 JMA 6822.jpg
2014 Nationals: Jason was still an inch or more shorter than Josh and a bit shorter than Max. http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Jason+Brown+2014+Prudential+Figure+Skating+5gOpd0f3IIMl.jpg
2015 Nationals: Jason is still shorter than Josh, but the gap has clearly narrower and he looks to be at or even a hair taller than Max. http://www.trbimg.com/img-54c5ac96/turbine/ct-figure-skating-spt-0126-20150125-001/500/500x281
And yes a ton more upper body fill out between 2014 and 2015. Max and Josh look more filled out also, but the difference is most noticeable with Jason.
So maybe he's 5'8 now?
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Here's a pic from the opening banquet. Max looks taller than Jason here, but he's also standing closer to the camera, and it's possible that the heels of his dress shoes are higher than Jason's.
I still think they're approximately the same height. It's so difficult to get an accurate view of Jason because he likes to cock his head a lot, or even bend down a little, when he's standing with people. Certainly neither of them are as tall as Joshua or Jeremy. Max is almost certainly heavier, however.
When comparing heights from past photos it's also important to remember that Max is more than three years older than Jason, so his growth was at different stages - he had finished growing and was starting to fill out when Jason had his big growth spurt, for example.
What does surprise me, looking at that picture, is how short Gracie is compared to Jason and Max. I had always had her and Max at the same height, but she's wearing heels in this picture and only just matches them, so she must be shorter.
EDIT: Another good comparison for muscle development/fill out to do is to look at the pictures of Max when he won his National title, vs the pictures of him now. Boy put on some SERIOUS weight in the last few years.
I still think they're approximately the same height. It's so difficult to get an accurate view of Jason because he likes to cock his head a lot, or even bend down a little, when he's standing with people. Certainly neither of them are as tall as Joshua or Jeremy. Max is almost certainly heavier, however.
When comparing heights from past photos it's also important to remember that Max is more than three years older than Jason, so his growth was at different stages - he had finished growing and was starting to fill out when Jason had his big growth spurt, for example.
What does surprise me, looking at that picture, is how short Gracie is compared to Jason and Max. I had always had her and Max at the same height, but she's wearing heels in this picture and only just matches them, so she must be shorter.
EDIT: Another good comparison for muscle development/fill out to do is to look at the pictures of Max when he won his National title, vs the pictures of him now. Boy put on some SERIOUS weight in the last few years.
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All useful information.
To be more precise, the age difference is a little over 2 years, 9 months (Max's birthday is 2/1992 v. 12/1994 for Jason). In school years, they are 3 years apart -- Jason would have missed the cutoff for '94, and actually would have graduated the same year as those born in '95. In any case, I use the comparison only to determine Jason's height growth over the years, which is the original question I was answer. At one time (yes, namely cause Max had his growth sprout sooner -- in 2010, Max would have been a few weeks shy of 18 (Jason and Josh had just turned 15 within the last several weeks).
Some documented info re Jason's height.
Ice Network article from 2010 Nationals references him being 5'1 (He was probably so tiny for his age! When I was 16, I was about 5'2 (though I've been stuck at 5'3 since then, LOL). Phil Hersh's article post 2011 Nationals, references a growth spurt of 4 inches to 5'5. Phil Hersh again has the last reference on Jason's height in this video, where Jason states he is 5'7" at the time the video was shot in Dec. 2011. The same video, he lists that his weight at 130 pounds.
So basically he grew about 6 inches from Jan. 2010 and Dec. 2011 two years. He probably has grown another inch since 2011, but gain a bunch a weight in the upper body area.
More photos for context.
2008 US Intermediate (Jason and Josh; top photo); https://instagram.com/p/0nSG1fTXJz/?taken-by=jasonbskates
2009 US Nationals Novice (Jason and Josh): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht-THMrgT7k#t=06m45s
2011 Junior Grand Prix Final (Han Yan, Jason and Josh) - http://davecskatingphoto.com/photos/2011GPF/juniors/men/jse_IMG_5967.jpg
2012 Junior Worlds (Han Yan, Jason and Josh)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/2012_World_Junior_Men_Medalists.jpg
2013 Junior Worlds (Jason and Josh -- Jason does indeed lean his head in....a lot) http://davecskatingphoto.com/photos/2013JuniorWorlds/men/jsw_dwc_1669.jpg
Josh, though several weeks younger than Jason, clearly started his growth spout sooner than Jason, which may have explained some of the injuries/issues he had circa 2010, 2011. And I think Josh might have had another growth spurt post Junior Worlds 2012, which could explain his issues in 2012 until the last few months.
Boy I did a lot of power googling for this.
Also RE: Gracie. I believe she is listed at 5'5, so that would make her shorter than both Jason and Max.
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Karne: I did see that picture and it confused me a bit because if you watch the team medals ceremony Jason looks taller than Max in most shots.
It's funny that you think Gracie looks short because I think she looks quite tall next to Jason and Max.
But then, I'm about the same height as Alexa, though sadly without her beautiful hair.
ETA: take a look at this. From 1:26 to 1:54 Jason seems noticeably taller than Max. I have to do some work right now that I thought was finished (boo at 10:30 on Sunday night!) so I can't look farther at the moment. If you guys have time take a look and let me know what you think. It's entirely possible that Jason's shoes are taller or the stage is uneven or Max isn't standing up. But doesn't Jason look taller?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dcZCSe0g37U
It's funny that you think Gracie looks short because I think she looks quite tall next to Jason and Max.
But then, I'm about the same height as Alexa, though sadly without her beautiful hair.
ETA: take a look at this. From 1:26 to 1:54 Jason seems noticeably taller than Max. I have to do some work right now that I thought was finished (boo at 10:30 on Sunday night!) so I can't look farther at the moment. If you guys have time take a look and let me know what you think. It's entirely possible that Jason's shoes are taller or the stage is uneven or Max isn't standing up. But doesn't Jason look taller?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dcZCSe0g37U
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The post-practice pic from WTT: Max looks taller again, but is wearing a hat and both have awful posture in the picture so not easy to tell.
Max listed at 173cm is news to me and forces me to rethink relative heights. I certainly do not call 173 short (I stand at exactly that), but I've always viewed Max and Jason as been little fellas. But if Max was 173, then Joshua has to be at least 180, which is taller than I imagined for him, and that would put Jeremy into the mid-180s at least, which seems very tall.
Unless, of course, Max and Jason's ISU heights were both taken in their skates.
EDIT: papagena, I see what you mean. They move around a lot and for most of it seem to be roughly the same height until they get on the podium, and then Jason looks taller. So either Jason's sneakers have significantly higher soles than Max's, or Jason's grown recently. Which would not be at all uncommon.
Max listed at 173cm is news to me and forces me to rethink relative heights. I certainly do not call 173 short (I stand at exactly that), but I've always viewed Max and Jason as been little fellas. But if Max was 173, then Joshua has to be at least 180, which is taller than I imagined for him, and that would put Jeremy into the mid-180s at least, which seems very tall.
Unless, of course, Max and Jason's ISU heights were both taken in their skates.
EDIT: papagena, I see what you mean. They move around a lot and for most of it seem to be roughly the same height until they get on the podium, and then Jason looks taller. So either Jason's sneakers have significantly higher soles than Max's, or Jason's grown recently. Which would not be at all uncommon.
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They are below the U.S. male average which is 5'10" but not by a ton.
I don't think ISU bios tend to not be updated in a timely manner.
Actually fun exercise. If you take Jason's ISU bio and put it in the wayback machine (cached pages of a website), here's what you get:
July 13, 2011 - 165 cm 5'5"
August 31, 2012 -170 cm 5'7"
And it has remained at 170cm ever since....
I don't think ISU bios tend to not be updated in a timely manner.
Actually fun exercise. If you take Jason's ISU bio and put it in the wayback machine (cached pages of a website), here's what you get:
July 13, 2011 - 165 cm 5'5"
August 31, 2012 -170 cm 5'7"
And it has remained at 170cm ever since....
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I just tried to watch Jason's gala again, thinking, well maybe it was just me on the cold/flu pills yesterday that made it almost unwatchable.
Nope. Physically could not go beyond the first minute. Sorry Jason, but this is awful. :hopelessness:
Nope. Physically could not go beyond the first minute. Sorry Jason, but this is awful. :hopelessness:
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I have been traveling to the West Coast and unable to watch until now.
Never thought these words would leave my lips: bring back Cotton Eyed Joe! :shocked: I have to agree with those who think it is a one-off for WTT. Or pray...
That split, however, is ah-mazing
Alex Ouriashev, Gracie Gold's former coach, had talked about Jason with TSL in a WTT recap. Go to 36:25.
He says "I'm pretty sure he will." get the quad.
He points out that he feels Jason was pretty smart to not focus on the quad so he could establish reputation and consistency.
He also argues that Jason is better than Josh if they are both clean and Jason gets the quad. I think he's being a bit partsian since he's a Chicago skater, FWIW (and Josh has definitely received +1 and +2, especially on that 3A, Alex!) Also he doesn't really say anything super nice about Gracie (or Frank's coaching), definitely a case of sour grapes.
Dave Lease also needs to get his facts straight -- he states that Jason never got his second-half 3A ratified when he did so at 4CC (and Rostelecom Cup, though with -GOE). Was his 3A inconsistent in the second half, absolutely. But that's not the same as "every single time."
Also my theory of them deciding to move up the 3A to the first half was more that Jason being tired post-Worlds and deciding that was the best strategy to compete at a competition only a few weeks off from Worlds. Otherwise, why would they have kept it in the second half for Worlds if they felt it was that big of an issue?
He says "I'm pretty sure he will." get the quad.
He points out that he feels Jason was pretty smart to not focus on the quad so he could establish reputation and consistency.
He also argues that Jason is better than Josh if they are both clean and Jason gets the quad. I think he's being a bit partsian since he's a Chicago skater, FWIW (and Josh has definitely received +1 and +2, especially on that 3A, Alex!) Also he doesn't really say anything super nice about Gracie (or Frank's coaching), definitely a case of sour grapes.
Dave Lease also needs to get his facts straight -- he states that Jason never got his second-half 3A ratified when he did so at 4CC (and Rostelecom Cup, though with -GOE). Was his 3A inconsistent in the second half, absolutely. But that's not the same as "every single time."
Also my theory of them deciding to move up the 3A to the first half was more that Jason being tired post-Worlds and deciding that was the best strategy to compete at a competition only a few weeks off from Worlds. Otherwise, why would they have kept it in the second half for Worlds if they felt it was that big of an issue?
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IIRC, they actually weren't too bad. They did mention that Max makes a lot of mistakes (which he can't afford to do), but Alex supported the decision to send Max to WTT instead of Josh/Adam, and called Max a hard-working athlete.
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I'm listening to it and struggling a bit because STOP SHOUTING.
