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Elena Ilinykh & Ruslan Zhiganshin

I know. But what would ice dance be if not for the risk takers to make things interesting. They are 21 and 23 if they don't take risks now when can they? Let them live a little. For years we complained bitterly when others played it safe every single solitary season, if these two want to take a risk, I say go for it. These two are intelligent people and they know their federations politics if they're choosing to be brave who are we to second guess them? All we can do is cheer for them.

Well, as I said their idea doesn't appeal to me but I have no clue how it will look in the end. I hope it will be no way near the waltz I saw from DWTS (?) video clip, becuase I find it mediocre and boring, at best.
Anyway, before pushing the alarm button I'll wait and see the program. It's silly to judge something which I haven't seen and I can't even picture it. I like to keep an open mind about it. However, it's not a big deal if not all their fans are not so thrilled about it. It is part of the discussion that fans have about programs. We want to know them in advance so we can start have an idea, or imagine them. It's normal conversation. ;)
 
Well, as I said their idea doesn't appeal to me but I have no clue how it will look in the end. I hope it will be no way near the waltz I saw from DWTS (?) video clip, becuase I find it mediocre and boring, at best.
Anyway, before pushing the alarm button I'll wait and see the program. It's silly to judge something which I haven't seen and I can't even picture it. I like to keep an open mind about it. However, it's not a big deal if not all their fans are not so thrilled about it. It is part of the discussion that fans have about programs. We want to know them in advance so we can start have an idea, or imagine them. It's normal conversation. ;)

;)
 
Does any one know the dance background of their SD choreographer? All the videos I have seen of his work are contemporary/modern dances.

I found one more Viennese waltz from DWTS http://youtu.be/8yRI5IZ408w
Of the Viennese waltzes to "Somebody to love from DWTS and Strickly Come Dancing I have seen, the choreography has so-so IMO without any storyline or characterization. Something those pairs also didn't have was Elena and Ruslan's chemistry.
 
Well, they are working with a non-professional dancer in those shows and working around their talent or lack of it and all their limitations. They also have a very short time to choreograph because once done each week the non-pro has to have most of the week to practice. And some of the time they have two dances to do in a week! It isn't going to be the same as skaters training for world class competition and the Olympics in the next 3 years! ;) I think the idea was to give people a flavour of what a modern waltz might be, not to put it forward as a template for this team.
 
I also don't think IZ's SD will look like DWTS routines. These have standard, fairly basic choreography, for reasons The Grand Sophy has mentioned, which won't be something IZ purposefully sought out an innovative modern dance choreographer for. The waltz pattern itself is prescribed, and as for the rest I think it'll be a very interesting, non-traditional program which will be tied to the lyrics, and, I guess, be a sort of anthem to triumphing over adversity and flying off in pursuit of one's dreams. DWTS videos just show that it can be danced to as a normal, aesthetically-pleasing waltz (for those of us who haven't seen it done). I was also very relieved to learn that apparently it's widely considered a typical modern waltz (although I'm surprised that many people choose it as their first dance at the wedding, since the lyrics speak at length about very discouraging circumstances that it takes all of one's inner strength to overcome, and so, despite the refrain, it doesn't really strike me as a romantic song).

Also, looking down what people did the last time we had a waltz SD, all the Marina & Igor teams went super traditional, but then in the rest of the top 10 finishers at Worlds, there were people using Etta James (W/P), Chess (B/S) and Que Sera Sera (C/L), plus I/K's Schnittke, which is technically "classical" but was also a really modern and quite divisive piece of music. Doing something that's not a usual ballroom waltz hasn't held people back before.
Thank you for reminding us that people have indeed used something other than a traditional waltz for SD as well and gotten away with it. :)

Z/G are also skating to Queen for their FD this coming season.
I thought they had retired, no?

I can`t wait for the new programs! :biggrin: I want them to do so many different styles, that skating only until 2018 is waaaay too short. It`s a pity that they have found each other so late. It`s weird that this teaming up was more of a coincidence, but they look as if they were meant for each other on ice.
ITA. Only three more years is indeed not even closely enough for their potential - these guys can skate to anything, and they seem determined to leave their mark. I do feel like they have it in them to define an era. And, yes, it's kind of amusing now to think back to how only a little more than a year ago I was so upset that IK had split because I thought that they were perfect for each other, and, judging by her interviews at the time, I think Elena herself thought so too back then. But it turns out that there's life after perfect :biggrin:

P.S.
Just remembered something else that's funny. Natalia Bestemianova gave another short interview today about Russian figure skaters' potential at the Olympics in Korea, and about her own discipline she said: "As far as ice dancing teams are concerned, I've spoken with world-class specialists, and they all as one maintain that the best Russian duet right now are Alexandra Stepanova and Ivan Bukin." Of course, nobody is taking it seriously. The woman seems to have neither conscience nor brains. Sounds like she and Zueva took the same PR courses - they're so completely clueless it's actually entertaining.

Here's the link to her interview (in Russian): http://www.sports.ru/others/figure-skating/1030632639.html
 
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I was also very relieved to learn that apparently it's widely considered a typical modern waltz (although I'm surprised that many people choose it as their first dance at the wedding, since the lyrics speak at length about very discouraging circumstances that it takes all of one's inner strength to overcome, and so, despite the refrain, it doesn't really strike me as a romantic song).

Most people have had some hardships in their life, most have kissed a fair few frogs before finding 'the one' and, with people marrying later these days, there is even more sense of having been on a journey in life and then finding your 'somebody'. Oh, and it has the added advantage of the vast majority of the invitees at the wedding probably thinking Queen is awesome (they top polls of greatest bands all the time and Freddy Mercury is revered) and so being ready to rock out with the happy pair once they have had their obligatory 'moment'.
 
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I thought they had retired, no?

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P.S.
Just remembered something else that's funny. Natalia Bestemianova gave another short interview today about Russian figure skaters' potential at the Olympics in Korea, and about her own discipline she said: "As far as ice dancing teams are concerned, I've spoken with world-class specialists, and they all as one maintain that the best Russian duet right now are Alexandra Stepanova and Ivan Bukin." Of course, nobody is taking it seriously. The woman seems to have neither conscience nor brains. Sounds like she and Zueva took the same PR courses - they're so completely clueless it's actually entertaining.

Z/G being Zahorski/Guerierro or whoever you spell it :P rather than Zhiganshina/Gaszi.

Let me guess, Bestemianova's experts are herself, TAT & Ivan's father?
 
Most people have had some hardships in their life, most have kissed a fair few frogs before finding 'the one' and, with people marrying later these days, there is even more sense of having been on a journey in life and then finding your 'somebody'. Oh, and it has the added advantage of the vast majority of the invitees at the wedding probably thinking Queen is awesome (they top polls of greatest bands all the time and Freddy Mercury is revered) and so being ready to rock out with the happy pair once they have had their obligatory 'moment'.
I'm just surprised that many people want to remember the hardships they had in life on their wedding day.
 
Could someone make a video of the Ravensburger pattern on the guitar solo of We Will Rock You? I was thinking the other day that they are supposed to dance one pattern on a waltz and then a second pattern on one of the other available options (one of which was March, right, so then that would be WWRY). My guess is that they will put the pattern on that part of the music, but I don't know if that works or not.
 
Hi. It is my first post here and I am so happy that i find this forum. Ruslena is my favourite team and I realy believe in their new programs. I realy hope that they will rock this season.
 
Could someone make a video of the Ravensburger pattern on the guitar solo of We Will Rock You? I was thinking the other day that they are supposed to dance one pattern on a waltz and then a second pattern on one of the other available options (one of which was March, right, so then that would be WWRY). My guess is that they will put the pattern on that part of the music, but I don't know if that works or not.

The partial step sequence is the one that needs to be skated to another rhythm and "in the style of that rhythm"
 
I was also very relieved to learn that apparently it's widely considered a typical modern waltz (although I'm surprised that many people choose it as their first dance at the wedding, since the lyrics speak at length about very discouraging circumstances that it takes all of one's inner strength to overcome, and so, despite the refrain, it doesn't really strike me as a romantic song).
I'm not from an English-speaking country, maybe that's why. Most of the people don't listen to the lyrics. And "Somebody to love" has a really nice swing to it, it's easy to find the rhythm.
But I also agree with TheGrandSophy, some people are even happier when they think of all the frogs ... where I live we have a tradition where little kids (because nobody can be angry with them) read prepared speeches containing unfavourable information about the bride and the groom, including past relationships and stuff. So sometimes the bride and/or the groom look a bit discouraged right before the first dance ... :popcorn: and then "Somebody to love" is really the song.
 
Hi. It is my first post here and I am so happy that i find this forum. Ruslena is my favourite team and I realy believe in their new programs. I realy hope that they will rock this season.
Welcome to the club!

although I'm surprised that many people choose it as their first dance at the wedding, since the lyrics speak at length about very discouraging circumstances that it takes all of one's inner strength to overcome, and so, despite the refrain, it doesn't really strike me as a romantic song.
Well, Yanovskaya and Mozgov will use the waltz from a movie where a pretty poor girl unhappily marries a very old man for his money and the consequences are really tragic. Nevertheless many Russians use this waltz for their wedding dance. :biggrin:

I where I live we have a tradition where little kids (because nobody can be angry with them) read prepared speeches containing unfavourable information about the bride and the groom, including past relationships and stuff. So sometimes the bride and/or the groom look a bit discouraged right before the first dance ... :popcorn: and then "Somebody to love" is really the song.
So many countries so many customs. This one seems a little bit cruel to me...
Luckily Elena and Ruslan chose this song for their short dance and not for their wedding :laugh: , so the lyrics are ok.
 
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Well, Yanovskaya and Mozgov will use the waltz from a movie where a pretty poor girl unhappily marries a very old man for his money and the consequences are really tragic. Nevertheless many Russians use this waltz for their wedding dance. :biggrin:
But the Beast waltz doesn't have lyrics, so people can think what they like when they hear the music. Besides, I think far more people know this waltz than have seen the film, including in Russia nowadays, so it's like any other instrumental waltz for them.

So many countries so many customs. This one seems a little bit cruel to me...
Yes, a bit, even if it's all in good humor. (But the kids probably enjoy the opportunity to be naughty and torment their elders :p)
 
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