Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
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In competition, yes.
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You can't do a 3A-3T or a 3Lz-3T if you're doing a 3T-3T
*headdesk*
My brain is frozen. 3A-2T then is likely.
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I think so too, 3A-3T is riskier than 3T3T which she can get GOE more easily in the second half.
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OMG! :shocked: Kind of reminds me of Mao's tactic during Vancouver season.
I think the layout is doable (with 3A-2T, not 3A-3T, that is). However, even though it is a ginormous layout, the total score would not reflect its ginormousness, even with the increase of 3A to 8.5.
Doing a second 3A is CoP smart only if you can combine it with a jump that is more valuable than (2 or 3) toe loop, or if you can put the second 3-axel in the second-half of the program. Otherwise, there are other smarter ways to stack up points.
And this is the case even after the 3-axel has increased its value to 8.5! (And even after the 3T has increased its value to 4.1!)
I think the layout is doable (with 3A-2T, not 3A-3T, that is). However, even though it is a ginormous layout, the total score would not reflect its ginormousness, even with the increase of 3A to 8.5.
Doing a second 3A is CoP smart only if you can combine it with a jump that is more valuable than (2 or 3) toe loop, or if you can put the second 3-axel in the second-half of the program. Otherwise, there are other smarter ways to stack up points.
And this is the case even after the 3-axel has increased its value to 8.5! (And even after the 3T has increased its value to 4.1!)
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Based on the video she is doing combination with the second 3A and Lz after that. But then it looks like 3T with combination. So it may be 3A-2T and 3Lz-3T, and 3T-something or she has not decided on the layout yet. Anyway they plan to boost the content. And if she manages to be consistent and beef up PCS a little bit more we may see 80 in SP and 230 overall next season. Mao will have to show her A-game to unsaddle Liza in their quest for GPF and Worlds gold.
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I like the music...it's not the kind that I would listen to usually, but it has a good beat in parts and seems to fit Elizaveta too.
I'm not sure about the Choreo right now. I was kind of hoping for something more Stephane-like with less busy-ness in the arms and more going on in with the feet.
But it's too early to tell yet.
I'm sure I'll like it as it gets polished. To hear this tech content though--:shocked: That's going to be amazing if she can do it. Autumn can't come soon enough.
I'm not sure about the Choreo right now. I was kind of hoping for something more Stephane-like with less busy-ness in the arms and more going on in with the feet.
But it's too early to tell yet. I'm sure I'll like it as it gets polished. To hear this tech content though--:shocked: That's going to be amazing if she can do it. Autumn can't come soon enough.
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I wonder why she doesn't go for 2 lutz? I remember she doesn't like the flip much.what about:
3A - 2T
3A
3lz
--
3T-3T
3lz-2t-2lo
3S
3loop.
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Probably because her team is seeking out the possibility that she will eventually be able to do a 3flip-3toeloop, so they need her to keep on practicing her flip in combination. If she can do 3axel, 3lutz, 3flip-3toeloop in the short (and replacing 3toeloop-3toeloop in the free as well), that would make her virtually invinsible. (Jump-wise, at least. She's still gotta long way to go on PCS.)
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If the 3F is a bit tricksy for her, though, wouldn't it be easier to do 3A, 3Lz-3T and a solo 3F?
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Yeah, I don't know why that doesn't happen. I think that if it were feasible, they'd already be doing that, so I assume that she's unable to do a 3Lz-3T either. I think it may be that her lutz technique is great as a solo jump for her, but not necessarily great for doing combos, maybe?
In any case, I think they need her to carry on including one flip jump so that she keeps improving it. Otherwise, she could end up without a flip altogether, which would not be good, to say the least.
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As it is not possible! You can only Repeat Two Triple jumps - in your Layout you Repeat Three
As it is not possible! You can only Repeat Two Triple jumps - in your Layout you Repeat Three
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Oops I always forgot that.
Once again, zayaking with 2x 3A, 2x 3Lz, 2x 3T. She needs to do the 3F if she goes for 8 triples.
EDIT: Looks like someone mentioned before me.
She should keep that 3F imho. Maybe it's not her best jump, but it's a clean 3F. It might not help her TES, but if I were a judge it would affect her PCS (as there is no other way to add points for it).
There's something to be said for doing all triples as a woman.
There's something to be said for doing all triples as a woman.
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It is still too early to comment on simply the layout of Liza's new FP, but it is a very good choice of music for her. So long as she can cope with those planned hard elements at big competitions, the final results will surely be very encouraging and exciting.
I think it is honestly not worth it to do 2 3As in the long, especially in the way liza has it currently set up--completely ignoring points from 2As.
IMO she should do
3A
3Lz-3T
3F
--
3Lz-1Lo-3S
2A-3T
3Lo
2A
If she is trying to maximize TES. People say a 3A is harder than a 3Lz-3T, and a 2A-3T is easier than a 3T-3T. If she can do a 3Lz-1Lo-3S then she can do this more point layout
IMO she should do
3A
3Lz-3T
3F
--
3Lz-1Lo-3S
2A-3T
3Lo
2A
If she is trying to maximize TES. People say a 3A is harder than a 3Lz-3T, and a 2A-3T is easier than a 3T-3T. If she can do a 3Lz-1Lo-3S then she can do this more point layout
I forgot to post this yesterday. Liza finally receiving the sobaka.ru award that Mishin collected on her behalf:
https://pp.vk.me/c623620/v623620844/34473/05Hq_R0DE38.jpg
Quite cute.
https://pp.vk.me/c623620/v623620844/34473/05Hq_R0DE38.jpg
Quite cute.
