Yuzuru Hanyu: 2015-16 Season

[alia jackson]

Thanks Xibsuarz.

Previously you've calculated the jumps BV as below, are you able to add the spins, steps etc. into the below for the full BV. It will be helpful for fans like me who is still learning the protocol/scoring. Thank you.

Allow me to do the math.

Chopin Balade no. 1
3A: 8.5
4T: 10.3*1.1 = 11.33
3Lz+3T: 10.3*1.1 = 11.33
TOTAL BV: 31.16

Keep in mind that I applied the new rules for Chopin, and so the 3T is worth .2 higher than before. Spins and steps were not considered here.

SEIMEI LP
4S: 10.5
4T: 10.3
3F: 5.3
4T+2T: (10.3+1.3)*1.1 = 12.76
3A+3T: (8.5+4.3)*1.1 = 14.08
3A+Lo+3S: (8.5+0.5+4.4)*1.1 = 14.74
3Lo: 5.1*1.1 = 5.61
3Lz: 6*1.1 = 6.6
TOTAL BV: 79.89

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, same goes for the SP. And we also have to consider that the spins, steps and choreo were not taken into account here at all, so the BV of the program should be slightly higher.

His full BV for long program (including spins, steps) should be something like 95. Counting possible score for that long program if he skates it perfectly clean it should be score around 205-6 / 113-115 TES ~~ 92 PCS

 

[yhmafan]

It's always difficult to translate it actually. I usually use "celebrities" according to the context, but "Geino-jin" does not include sports celebrities, noble family members, those in political circles (?), etc. but includes actors/actresses, comedians, singers, etc. famous in show business. So, IMO, "show business people", "show-biz celebrities", or of that kind, may describe it more correctly.

Thank you for the answer, SuzyQ. You were very helpful. I think that the “show business people” or “show-biz people” would fit my feelings the most, thanks again.

I saw one tweet going to ask whether there's going to be new costume for SP . Today someone tweet a costume fantasy, Ooh! la! la!

It's a gorgeous costume, and I just realized, it looks like the races of the sleeves are the same as the waist part of Mao's costume? (but I may be wrong.)


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Here is an interesting article that 10 Figure Skating champions before they were famous.
The article says that Yuzuru Hanyu (2004), age 10 : The recent Olympic champion started with skating at the age of 4. Few years later and he has already started to win the competitions.

Please enjoy.:yay:

 

[ElenaClaire]

Remember after the collision at CoC he feared of getting into collision; and during practice at NHK we saw he ducked out of the way (I cannot find the video for this now) and another time he hugged the board.

What I did not realize was at Worlds practice session, the venue of the collision, he ran out of the way when he saw Veronov coming towards him (photos & clip in this blog). Even though he laughed at himself in the end, but you can see the fear in his eyes before that..I think it just triggered his memory as Voronov's position was just like his position at the moment of impact. I hope by now the trauma has subsided.



Brilliant!!! that is a million dollar question

(waves) i'm back!
Ooh right I remember those moments.. now if anyone can help to find the link to those NHK moments (I think it's from the news report) I'll appreciate it! (actually just yesterday I was thinking of it and tried to find but couldn't)

I didn't know the one from Worlds though. There you see him already looking backwards seconds before Voronov actually came close but he seems to be calculating his next move like 'omg he's coming towards me where do i go!' he looks adorable but when you think of what must've been going on his mind... so understandable I think his instinct must've flared up right away. I think he's fine but he's gonna be super aware during practice or warm up I bet.

Btw I saw the new Chopin run through and couldn't help but (slightly) worried about his triple-triple combo. Also, the transition/step before quad toe in the second half looks pretty hard. But, I believe he'll get enough time to perfect it. So hoping for the best!

 

[xibsuarz]

Thanks Xibsuarz.

Previously you've calculated the jumps BV as below, are you able to add the spins, steps etc. into the below for the full BV. It will be helpful for fans like me who is still learning the protocol/scoring. Thank you.

Sure thing
So the BV I got for the jumps 79.89, assuming he's keepig the same spins (and of course levels for both spins and steps) I got this:
FCCoSp3p4: 3.50
StSq3: 3.30
ChSq1: 2.00
FCSSp4: 3.00
CCoSp3p4: 3.50
TOTAL: 15.3 + 79.89 = 95.19
(Nice estimation HanDomi!)

 

[gsyzf]

Sure thing
So the BV I got for the jumps 79.89, assuming he's keepig the same spins (and of course levels for both spins and steps) I got this:
FCCoSp3p4: 3.50
StSq3: 3.30
ChSq1: 2.00
FCSSp4: 3.00
CCoSp3p4: 3.50
TOTAL: 15.3 + 79.89 = 95.19
(Nice estimation HanDomi!)

I believe the stsq is meant to be level 4. There is no guarantee he can receive credit for level 4 stsq all the time, but the stsq is choreographed to satisfy the requirements of level 4. The bv of level 4 stsq is 3.9, so his planned bv should be 95.79.

 

[HanDomi]

I believe the stsq is meant to be level 4. There is no guarantee he can receive credit for level 4 stsq all the time, but the stsq is choreographed to satisfy the requirements of level 4. The bv of level 4 stsq is 3.9, so his planned bv should be 95.79.

Just imagine TES score if he is going to hit everything with good quality. I think my estimation on possible scores is quite close too

 

[xibsuarz]

I believe the stsq is meant to be level 4. There is no guarantee he can receive credit for level 4 stsq all the time, but the stsq is choreographed to satisfy the requirements of level 4. The bv of level 4 stsq is 3.9, so his planned bv should be 95.79.

You're right, sorry, I did it on a rush and just used he GPF protocols, didn't realize it was a StSq3, not 4. thank you, goodness me, the TES is going to skyrocket if he lands it all clean.

 

[alia jackson]

Sure thing
So the BV I got for the jumps 79.89, assuming he's keepig the same spins (and of course levels for both spins and steps) I got this:
FCCoSp3p4: 3.50
StSq3: 3.30
ChSq1: 2.00
FCSSp4: 3.00
CCoSp3p4: 3.50
TOTAL: 15.3 + 79.89 = 95.19
(Nice estimation HanDomi!)

I believe the stsq is meant to be level 4. There is no guarantee he can receive credit for level 4 stsq all the time, but the stsq is choreographed to satisfy the requirements of level 4. The bv of level 4 stsq is 3.9, so his planned bv should be 95.79.

Just imagine TES score if he is going to hit everything with good quality. I think my estimation on possible scores is quite close too

Thank you Xibsuarz, Gsyzf and HanDomi. If I merge them in the protocol format, it would look like the below?

SEIMEI Full Planned BV (assuming the same steps/spins as Poto)
1 4S: 10.5
2 4T: 10.3
3 3F: 5.3
4 FCCoSp3p4: 3.50
5 StSq4: 3.90
6 4T+2T: (10.3+1.3)*1.1 = 12.76
7 3A+3T: (8.5+4.3)*1.1 = 14.08
8 3A+Lo+3S: (8.5+0.5+4.4)*1.1 = 14.74
9 3Lo: 5.1*1.1 = 5.61
10 3Lz: 6*1.1 = 6.6
11 ChSq1: 2.00
12 FCSSp4: 3.00
13 CCoSp3p4: 3.50
TOTAL BV = 95.79

Just for my understanding of protocol calculation...a full maximum perfect marks which is improbable of course will be 234.79 --> TES=95.79 + (13 x 3 GOEs)=134.79, PCS=100. Is this how it is calculated?

 

[xibsuarz]

Thank you Xibsuarz, Gsyzf and HanDomi. If I merge them in the protocol format, it would look like the below?

SEIMEI Full Planned BV (assuming the same steps/spins as Poto)
1 4S: 10.5
2 4T: 10.3
3 3F: 5.3
4 FCCoSp3p4: 3.50
5 StSq4: 3.90
6 4T+2T: (10.3+1.3)*1.1 = 12.76
7 3A+3T: (8.5+4.3)*1.1 = 14.08
8 3A+Lo+3S: (8.5+0.5+4.4)*1.1 = 14.74
9 3Lo: 5.1*1.1 = 5.61
10 3Lz: 6*1.1 = 6.6
11 ChSq1: 2.00
12 FCSSp4: 3.00
13 CCoSp3p4: 3.50
TOTAL BV = 95.79

Just for my understanding of protocol calculation...a full maximum perfect marks which not is improbable is 234.79 --> TES=95.79 + (13 x 3 GOEs)=134.79, PCS=100. Is this how it is calculated?

+3 across The board from the judges leads to different additions per element depending on each BV. For example, you get 3 extra points if you get staring +3 on a 3A, but for the spins is only 1.5. For the step sequence level 4 is 2.1 and so on. You can find it here: http://static.isu.org/media/207718/1944-sptc-sov-communication-2015-2016.pdf
And I'm not really sure how it works for the combinations

 

[matmuh]

+3 across The board from the judges leads to different additions per element depending on each BV. For example, you get 3 extra points if you get staring +3 on a 3A, but for the spins is only 1.5. For the step sequence level 4 is 2.1 and so on. You can find it here: http://static.isu.org/media/207718/1944-sptc-sov-communication-2015-2016.pdf
And I'm not really sure how it works for the combinations

for combinations they look at biggest jump at the combo, 3Lz3T gets 2.1 max, 4T3T- 3A3T gets 3 max, 2A3T- 2A1Lo3Sal gets 2.1 max, 2A2T gets 1.5 max and so son

 

[alia jackson]

+3 across The board from the judges leads to different additions per element depending on each BV. For example, you get 3 extra points if you get staring +3 on a 3A, but for the spins is only 1.5. For the step sequence level 4 is 2.1 and so on. You can find it here: http://static.isu.org/media/207718/1944-sptc-sov-communication-2015-2016.pdf
And I'm not really sure how it works for the combinations

for combinations they look at biggest jump at the combo, 3Lz3T gets 2.1 max, 4T3T- 3A3T gets 3 max, 2A3T- 2A1Lo3Sal gets 2.1 max, 2A2T gets 1.5 max and so son

Ahh the famous document, I wonder what software the judges are using . Thanks for the info Xibsuarz & Matmuh :agree:.

(waves) i'm back!....
... I think his instinct must've flared up right away. I think he's fine but he's gonna be super aware during practice or warm up I bet.

Welcome back. Yeah I hope so too

 

[hamaguri]

Thank you for math work! His expected TES interests me, but I’m not good at figuring out!

And thanks for all the updates of images!:yay:

(waves) i'm back!
Btw I saw the new Chopin run through and couldn't help but (slightly) worried about his triple-triple combo. Also, the transition/step before quad toe in the second half looks pretty hard. But, I believe he'll get enough time to perfect it. So hoping for the best!

Welcome back elainne! Yeah, that transition or so is just crazy and scares me.. But he can make it in the end!

Remember after the collision at CoC he feared of getting into collision; and during practice at NHK we saw he ducked out of the way (I cannot find the video for this now) and another time he hugged the board.

What I did not realize was at Worlds practice session, the venue of the collision, he ran out of the way when he saw Veronov coming towards him (photos & clip in this blog). Even though he laughed at himself in the end, but you can see the fear in his eyes before that..I think it just triggered his memory as Voronov's position was just like his position at the moment of impact. I hope by now the trauma has subsided.

Thank you for your thoughtful post. How deep-rooted that collision is inside him just makes me feel pain. What’s certain is, if he was aware of something traumatic at the practice, he and his brains who support him have tackled this problem. I sincerely hope he can totally get over what’s related to that collision.

 

[Lindacrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DKhXT934XM
This can be like the opening for a mens figure skating tv show

 

[ranran]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DKhXT934XM
This can be like the opening for a mens figure skating tv show

I agree! hahahahaha OMG I just lol hard at Kovtun part~ nothing negative~ its just his expression with the movement is so funny!

 

[yuzuplease]

hi guys! first-time poster, long-time lurker (blah blah you know the drill ). thanks for all the translations and links, this is the only place i go to when i need updates

that worlds gif tho...he went from intense face/get out of my way i am yuzuru hanyu to panic mode in a snap >__<

 

[ahkeekee]

hi guys! first-time poster, long-time lurker (blah blah you know the drill [emoji23]). thanks for all the translations and links, this is the only place i go to when i need updates [emoji14]

that worlds gif tho...he went from intense face/get out of my way i am yuzuru hanyu to panic mode in a snap >__<

Welcome welcome!!!!!
I love your user name!!
Do post often and long!!![emoji6]

 

[hamaguri]

hi guys! first-time poster, long-time lurker (blah blah you know the drill ). thanks for all the translations and links, this is the only place i go to when i need updates

that worlds gif tho...he went from intense face/get out of my way i am yuzuru hanyu to panic mode in a snap >__<

Welcome @yuzuplease! Yeah, Nice name!
Let's cheer for yuzu!

 

[yuzuplease]

thanks ahkeekee and hamaguri!
"ugh yuzu please" is my default reaction to anything he does, whether good or questionable lol.

oh and btw...i was listening to Believe's english version and i thought why the heck not. i know there are people here who haven't heard this version of the song yet, enjoy the feels! :dance:

 

[hamaguri]

thanks ahkeekee and hamaguri!
"ugh yuzu please" is my default reaction to anything he does, whether good or questionable lol.

oh and btw...i was listening to Believe's english version and i thought why the heck not. i know there are people here who haven't heard this version of the song yet, enjoy the feels! :dance:

Funny reaction!

Thanks. I really like this performance and music (and costume!)! He seemed to be skating confortably with his emotion full and his movements well harmonized with music!

ETA: About the heck, that's because it vanished when the uploader changed the original music to the English ?

 

[ahkeekee]

Has the newest commentary by Patrick skating commentary been shared already here? Its on yuzu's pw at 2013 gpf!! Sorry if it's been shared already since I was kinda not really updated about the posts here yet.....https://youtu.be/5cEA6L0uACQ