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What a retro gem! Including the judges holding up cards for the grades because the computer had broken down, and Dick's commentary.
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Liam, I had a feeling you meant Zivanovic! I remembered him but not the program. He skated for the U.S. for several years then skated for Yugoslavia and eventually Serbia.
What a great commentary team--sounds like Terry Gannon, Dick Button, and Brian Boitano!
What a great commentary team--sounds like Terry Gannon, Dick Button, and Brian Boitano!
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I have a stupid question.
There are two choreographers in Asia, one reported on bios as Elvin Huang and the other as Elvin Wong. Elvin is an odd name. Are these two guys really the same guy with skaters spelling his last name two different ways, depending on the dialect of Chinese they speak?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_(surname)
If so, which way does Mr. Wong/Huang prefer to use himself?
There are two choreographers in Asia, one reported on bios as Elvin Huang and the other as Elvin Wong. Elvin is an odd name. Are these two guys really the same guy with skaters spelling his last name two different ways, depending on the dialect of Chinese they speak?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_(surname)
If so, which way does Mr. Wong/Huang prefer to use himself?
Elvin, Calvin, Kelvin etc these kind of names are common for a lot of Chinese people because the name is easy to pronounce, to me it seems like 2 different people, like Mainland Chinese people wouldn't refer to Patrick Chan as Patrick Chen, I tried searching it up and I know this is Elvin Huang and I tried searching for Elvin Wong by using his students' names to search it up but I can't seem to find anything about him but when I put in Elvin Huang's Chinese name with the Chinese names of skaters who have Elvin Wong listed in their ISU bio as their choreographer I'm getting results. Might be the same person but an error on someone else's part?
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Just a general response -- don't know a thing about this individual (or these individuals, as the case may be).
It is true that the Chinese character that means "yellow" in English can be transliterated in lots of different ways: Huang, Hwang, Hwong, Wang, Wong, etc., etc.
So it is possible that the two Elvins are one and the same person.
But ... it is true also that the Chinese character for someone named Wong could be completely different from the one for someone named Huang.
So it is possible also that the two Elvins are different people.
[Sorry if I sound like Captain Obvious. My point is that it is not a stupid question.]
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In terms of difficulty/skill needed/respect evoked from fellow skaters, how does sticking a 1/2 Loop 3S at the end of a jump compare to sticking a 3T on?
We see a lot of 3Z+1R+3S combos how does that compare in terms of skill and difficulty to a 3Z+3T? Is it mostly a skater by skater thing of if they like the sal or the toe better? Does the 1/2 Loop in the middle add to or decrease the difficulty?
Does the first jump have anything to do with it? Would the answer to the above paragraph be different if the first jump was a 3A/2A rather than a lutz?
We see a lot of 3Z+1R+3S combos how does that compare in terms of skill and difficulty to a 3Z+3T? Is it mostly a skater by skater thing of if they like the sal or the toe better? Does the 1/2 Loop in the middle add to or decrease the difficulty?
Does the first jump have anything to do with it? Would the answer to the above paragraph be different if the first jump was a 3A/2A rather than a lutz?
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What is this called? https://youtu.be/xl3SpoqLtPE?t=208
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I think that skater deserves the naming rights!
I don't think it has a name, unless she wants to name it herself.
When Sasha Cohen did something similar (turning backward to forward instead of vice versa, and with less speed), she called it a "Sasha skid."
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Thanks guys! I remember when Sasha did something similar, yes. I always thought of it as a Sasha turn myself
but this is even more impressive.The skater is Evgenia Medvedeva
Confused. I'm not a technical guru by any means, but a half loop makes it a sequence, therefore fulfills an entirely different requirement within the program. Skaters can do both a triple toe at the end of a combo and a half loop triple sal as the second part of their sequence. Unless you are talking about a three jump combo, which you didn't mention in your description. The trick these days, in general, seems to be to avoid having too many of the same jump in your program so that if you pop your quad into either a triple toe or a triple sal, you don't get hammered later on and lose credit for your combo or sequence.
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Julia Lipnitskaia on World team for 2014 not for 2015.
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The only recent medalist that comes to mind who was actually not selected, not who merely didn't choose to go for one reason or another, is Julia Lipnitskaia.
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Julia Lipnitskaia from 2014 to 2015 comes to mind...
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Jeremy Abbott did not make the World Team in 2011, the year Ryan Bradley won Nationals.
Tonya Harding did not make the World team in 1993.
Tonya Harding did not make the World team in 1993.
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You're correct. However, when Sasha did her "Skid". She kept her hip down. In her defense, Miss Medvedeva is traveling MUCH faster than Sasha did when she did hers. Hopefully her coach will fix it as she needs to get that right hip down and if possible, keep her foot from "Sickling". If she's flexible, it will be any easy fix. If not, she should try a heel extension instead. I do believe however, that a heel extension position would make that turn far more difficult. Although I don't for sure as I've never tried a turning, traveling heel extension on the ice.
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But not an answer for Lissy, b/c Jeremy did not win a medal at 2010 Worlds.
