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2015 Skate Canada Autumn Classic International, Oct 12 - 15

Alicia PINEAULT (CAN)

Music: Budapest Cafe and Victory by Maksim

Dark red halter dressm back straps

3Lz+2T
3Lo
3F - fall
CCoSp3p
StSq
3S+2T
3T - fall
FSSp
3S - fall
2A+1Lo+2S
FCCoSp3p

Shame about the 3 falls

FS: 85.37, 130.45, 1/6
 
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I acknowledged Daisuke was the better skater (and I think his PCS should have been about 90 and Chan's around 88, in which case Chan still could have won)... but Daisuke had a UR 3F (which compared to a clean 3F with +GOE, meant he lost the value of a 2A... the double axel Chan missed), and only had one quad, and Takahashi had << on his SP combo.

In this instance, Nam went clean, without any errors and did a flawless 4+3 combo, 3A and 3Z. Hanyu had a great 3A, but the 4T was flawed (which should have gotten more -3's given it was both a UR and a stepout), and the 3Z+3T was off-axis (although I'd say the judges got the GOE correct on that one with mainly 0/-1 compared to +1s).

The main issue is the components scores... 45.31 would have been fine for a clean skate (Hanyu's PB is 46.61), but for one with an obvious error, there's no way it should have scored above 45. But you compare that to Nam getting 37.85, and it's like ... really, 7.5 points higher for a flawed skate?!

I agree that Nam had no reason to be upset with that skate (unless he felt he messed up a spin position or missed choreo or something), and the judges might have taken notice. Orser probably had a talking to him after that.
Yes, Mr. Nguyen was clean with a toe axel (see the video of Miss Miyahara's massive pre-rotation on her Flip for reference) and a questionable lutz which should have been marked as "!" At least.
And they gave that toe axel combo +2 GOE and you say nothing. And don't forget to slow down Mr. Nguyen's 3A which was given 1.6 GOE to see how massively over-scored it was. It is not wrong to say some ladies jump better looking 3A than him.
All because Mr. Nguyen is Canadian so you will always turn your eyes blind.
I was there at 4CC last season and my remark about Mr. Nguyen is that if he does not land his jumps, there is not much to see in his performance. And even his jumps are not pretty looking.
Regardless of PCS, I'd say the PCS for Mr. Nguyen is generous.
 
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McKenna COLTHORP (CAN)

Music: Smile from Modern Times by John Williams and Boston Pops Orchestra

Lavender blue dress, silver sparkles

2A+3T - fall
3S+2T+2Lo - eeked out
3Lo - fall
FCSp
3T - turnout/foot down
3S
2?+2T+2Lo
FSSp
StSq
2A - stepout
FCCoSp3p

FS: 87.02, 129.25, 2/7
 
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I acknowledged Daisuke was the better skater (and I think his PCS should have been about 90 and Chan's around 88, in which case Chan still could have won)... but Daisuke had a UR 3F (which compared to a clean 3F with +GOE, meant he lost the value of a 2A... the double axel Chan missed), and only had one quad, and Takahashi had << on his SP combo.

They had roughly the same TES in the LP, the difference being that Patrick got almost 5 points more in PCS for a very flawed skate in which he was behind the music for at least 1/3 of the program. The purpose, however, was not to reiterate that particular discussion, but to make a point about double standards.

The main issue is the components scores... 45.31 would have been fine for a clean skate (Hanyu's PB is 46.61), but for one with an obvious error, there's no way it should have scored above 45. But you compare that to Nam getting 37.85, and it's like ... really, 7.5 points higher for a flawed skate?!

In which components would you give Nam higher scores that what he has received?

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And I don't care how superior overall Hanyu/Chan/Fernandez/Ten is to a skater like Nam, if they make major errors and Nam goes lights out, Nam deserves to be placed ahead and not fall prey to some de facto PCS gap just because he's a second-tier skater.

So let me get this straight: Nam should receive roughly the same PC as Yuzuru (since their TES was close) solely on the virtue of being clean even though Yuzuru is the better skater? That is the only scenario in which Nam would be placed ahead, and that is ignoring the ! call that he didn't receive on his Lz.
 
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Alexis DION (CAN)

Music: Malaguena by Raul de Blasio

Black halter dress, yellow flower bust, silver swirls

3Lz+2T
3Lz - ok, maybe <
3T - stepout
1T
2A - forward
FSSp
StSq
2A
2Lz+2Lo - turnout
FCCoSp3p
CCoSp3p

FS: 85.35, 127.67, 3/8
 
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Amanda STAN (ROU)

Music: Santa Maria (Del Buen Ayre) by Gotan Project

Red sweetheart dress, sheer sleeves, black ombre hem, gloves, open back

3Lz+1Lo+2S - looked at least 3Lz<
3F - e, fall, looked at least <
3S+2T - looked 3S<
FSSp
3T - twofoot/turnout, maybe <
3S - looked <
2A+2T
2A
LSp
StSq
CCoSp3p

FS: 86.01, 130.46, 1/9
 
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Chloe ING (SIN)

Music: Merry Go Round by Joe Hisaishi

Tan long-sleeve dress with gold beading

3Lo - foot down, looked <
3S+2T - stepout, looked 3S<
3S - twofoot/fall
2A+2T
FCSp
2A - fall
2Lz+1Lo+2F
StSq
2F
LSp
CCoSp3p - good I-spin

FS: 71.28, 111.04, 5/10
 
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Flood? Did I miss something important?

ETA: I'm assuming that y'all are assuming the Zamboni, right, or is it only my stream that's down?:confused:
 
Time for some Frankie Goes to Hollywood - Relax. Hope someone skates to this sometime (how scandalous!).
 
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