Yuzuru Hanyu: 2015-16 Season

[HanDomi]

interesting.
I went back to the protocols of skate canada and changed his 3T into a second 4T. Tripling the second quad was his only mistake there so I think you can say that by adding the 4T we would get the true potential of Patrick's program.
Result: TES=101.17 then lets give him 10 for every category of the PCS=100. Hypothetical score=201.17 (and he is never gonna get perfect 10s for PCS anyway).

So my conclusion is that Patrick certainly has chances to beat Yuzu in any competition, depending on how they both skate on that day. He is NOT going beyond that score though. Never.
As for the total score, he won't beat that either because he can't do two quads in the SP.

Hanyu scores are not going to be beaten by anyone in a VERY, VERY long time unless Hanyu breaks them himself again. The best shot at this in short term is SP, if he will land perfect quad sal and do the rest like NHK. But LP will be mighty hard to top

 

[Lys]

interesting.
I went back to the protocols of skate canada and changed his 3T into a second 4T. Tripling the second quad was his only mistake there so I think you can say that by adding the 4T we would get the true potential of Patrick's program.
Result: TES=101.17 then lets give him 10 for every category of the PCS=100. Hypothetical score=201.17 (and he is never gonna get perfect 10s for PCS anyway).

So my conclusion is that Patrick certainly has chances to beat Yuzu in any competition, depending on how they both skate on that day. He is NOT going beyond that score though. Never.
As for the total score, he won't beat that either because he can't do two quadc in the SP.

Taking this even further, if Patrick skated his free getting the max GOE available on all elements, hitting two 4T and getting level 4 on all spins and steps, if I'm not mistaken he'd have a max tes of 113,66. Even adding a 3A instead of a 3Lz and giving that combo +3 too, he'd reach "only" 117,31. To top Yuzuru free skating score he'd then need just (just ) 98,76 in pcs.

Yuzuru scores at NHK are simply UNREAL.

 

[xibsuarz]

HI everyone:

Today i attended a press call with Patrick Chan. Here is my latest blog entry - I wrote about the comments he made about Yuzu's recent NHK performance. Patrick was very well spoken!

https://sportymags.wordpress.com/20...terview-thoughts-about-yuzus-nhk-performance/

Hope you enjoy.

How interesting! Thank you for sharing this with us I really wanted to see what Yuzu's fellow competitors thought about his performance at NHK. Good to see Patrick giving answers like this

Oh and this: Nam performing SEIMEI he gets +3.00 GOEs even though, as Javi pointed out, the hydroblade goes the other way

 

[danni]

HI everyone:

Today i attended a press call with Patrick Chan. Here is my latest blog entry - I wrote about the comments he made about Yuzu's recent NHK performance. Patrick was very well spoken!

https://sportymags.wordpress.com/20...terview-thoughts-about-yuzus-nhk-performance/

Hope you enjoy.

I truly enjoy it! Thank you for posting this !

 

[FTnoona]

Oh and this: Nam performing SEIMEI

Nam's got a pretty nice layback ina bauer

 

[shyne]

Oh and this: Nam performing SEIMEI

I was just about to post his～～

 

[umeko_yur1tasukee]

Pooh can't believe it either

Yey!! Finally, someone made this a gif :hap93:
This was exactly my fave moment

 

[gsyzf]

interesting.
I went back to the protocols of skate canada and changed his 3T into a second 4T. Tripling the second quad was his only mistake there so I think you can say that by adding the 4T we would get the true potential of Patrick's program.
Result: TES=101.17 then lets give him 10 for every category of the PCS=100. Hypothetical score=201.17 (and he is never gonna get perfect 10s for PCS anyway).

So my conclusion is that Patrick certainly has chances to beat Yuzu in any competition, depending on how they both skate on that day. He is NOT going beyond that score though. Never.
As for the total score, he won't beat that either because he can't do two quads in the SP.

Didn't Patrick perform his programs to the potential at 2013 teb already? An easier program cannot and should not score the same as a much more difficult program when the difficult program is executed with top quality.

 

[xibsuarz]

Didn't Patrick perform his programs to the potential at 2013 teb already? An easier program cannot and should not score the same as a much more difficult program when the difficult program is executed with top quality.

I thought so too, I think he only missed a level on the spins at TEB?

 

[shiroKJ]

Guess which Yuna currently has a Pooh tissue box cover as well

 

[shyne]

Yuzu in 2007 NHK. The 2007 competition was held from November 28 through December 2 in Sendai, Japan.
2007

 

[Hanmgse]

How interesting! Thank you for sharing this with us I really wanted to see what Yuzu's fellow competitors thought about his performance at NHK. Good to see Patrick giving answers like this

Oh and this: Nam performing SEIMEI

 

[umeko_yur1tasukee]

If Yuzuru achieved everything and still have time left before retirement age. He should try this layout in FS.

4Lz
4F
4Lo
4S
4T
3A+1Lo+3S
3Lz+3T
3F+3Lo

I called this the 'ELEVEN ORPHANS'. (akin to the mahjong hand called Thirteen Orphans).
All jumps are quads and triples (except for the 1Lo), and no jump is repeated.:shocked:

Advantage: No risk of zayaking if any quads turn into triple.

I feel you ~~~~ :sad4:

 

[Meoima]

If Yuzuru achieved everything and still have time left before retirement age. He should try this layout in FS.
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I called this the 'ELEVEN ORPHANS'. (akin to the mahjong hand called Thirteen Orphans).
All jumps are quads and triples (except for the 1Lo), and no jump is repeated.:shocked:

Advantage: No risk of zayaking if any quads turn into triple.

4Lz - he will not try 4lz, he might land it in practice several times, but going for it in competition is another matter since his lutz is not that stable
4F - The 3F is the jump he dislikes, so no. He will never get a 4F I am sure.
4Lo
4S
4T
3A+1Lo+3S
3Lz+3T
3F+3Lo - This combo is prone to UR when you are senior skater with bigger body than junior and it might lead to injuries. Not to mention 3F is his weak jump, so no.

PS: Maybe he can do 4A given that his 3A is so stable but 4A sounds too dangerous in my book.

 

[alia jackson]

Isn't the lady on extreme right was the one that gushing Yuzu is handsome when interviewing him during this year summer show....looking at what she is wearing a fan auntie indeed .

Actually I like that shirt too...may get one if it is available here :

 

[ranran]

Yuzu in 2007 NHK. The 2007 competition was held from November 28 through December 2 in Sendai, Japan.
2007

Thanks~ Can't view the picture tho~

 

[alia jackson]

^^^ Here is another link of Yuzu in 2007 NHK...just 322.40 the way he stand and hold the flag



By the way, look at the first two numbers of each score....i'm trying to figure out how to remember these scores as my auntie brain having difficulty to remember except for the total score
106.33
216.07
322.40

 

[ranran]

^^^ Here is another link of Yuzu in 2007 NHK...just 322.40 the way he stand and hold the flag



By the way, look at the first two numbers of each score....i'm trying to figure out how to remember these scores as my auntie brain having difficulty to remember except for the total score
106.33
216.07
322.40

Thanks~ aww so cute!

 

[alia jackson]

The Shibs posted a message and part of it said "Skating at Big Hat Arena in Nagano and seeing the Olympic Rings was especially inspiring. We are working towards 2018 every day and looking up at the rings at the end of our Free Dance was a special moment."

Reminded me when Yuzu pointed to the Olympic rings after his FP...kind off saying that is my goal to become #1 at 2018 Olympic and this is my journey towards that. Gambatte Yuzu

 

[shiroKJ]

A fan calculated the maxim scoring potential of Patrick, Javier, and Yuzuru's program with all L4's/Max GOE/Max PCS and the numbers are interesting.

Patrick CHAN
SP　TES57.60（BV42.90+GOE14.70）+PCS50.00=TSS 107.60
FS　TES111.52（BV83.32+GOE28.20）+PCS100.00=TSS 211.52
Total 319.12

Javier FERNANDEZ
SP　TES58.15（BV43.45+GOE14.70）+PCS50.00=TSS 108.15
FS　TES119.74（BV90.64+GOE29.10）+PCS100.00=TSS 219.74
Total 327.89

Yuzuru HANYU
SP　TES63.65（BV48.05+GOE15.60）+PCS50.00=TSS 113.65
FS　TES125.79（BV95.79+GOE30.00）+PCS100.00=TSS 225.79
Total 339.44

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Some more number crunching for those interested. It was done by Neveitalia and this is the translated version (google) :handw:

Yuzuru VS The rest of the world's combined (previous) record

SHORT PROGRAM

TOTAL SCORE (+ 7.81)
106.33 - Yuzuru Hanyu / 98.52 - Patrick CHAN

TES (+ 2.94 )
59.44 - Yuzuru Hanyu / 56,50 - JIN Boyang

PCS ( - 0.29 )
46.89 - Yuzuru Hanyu / 47,18 - Patrick CHAN
SS 9,36 - 9,18 TR - PE 9.50 - CH 9.39 - 9.43 IN - Hanyu
SS 9.43 - TR 9,32 - 9,32 PE - CH 9.54 - 9.57 IN - CHAN

Hanyu vs Rest of the World (+ 2.65 )
106.33 (59,44 | 46,89) Yuzuru Hanyu
103,68 (56,50 | 47,18) Rest of the World (TES Jin Chan PCS)

Hanyu has touched the world record made by the TES Chinese Boyang Jin just in Nagano, but failed to overcome the best performance ever on the components of the program, established by Patrick Chan at the Olympics in 2014. The Japanese outclassed winner of Skate Canada only under "performance / execution". Moreover, in the "choreography", Hanyu had obtained a higher response in the World Team Trophy in 2015 (9.43).

Adding the technical score of Boyang Jin and the sum of the components of the program Patrick Chan, Yuzuru Hanyu would still have a lead of 2.65 points .


FREE MAP

TOTAL SCORE (+19.32)
216.07 - Yuzuru Hanyu / 196.75 - Patrick CHAN

TES ( + 18,42 )
118,87 - Yuzuru Hanyu / 100.45 - TEN Denis

PCS ( + 0.70 )
97.20 - Yuzuru Hanyu / 96,50 - Patrick CHAN
SS 9.69 - TR 9.46 - 9.75 EP - CH 9,82 - 9,89 IN - Hanyu
SS 9,57 - TR 9,39 - 9,86 PE - CH 9.64 - 9.79 IN - CHAN

Hanyu vs Rest of the World ( + 19.12 )
216.07 (118.87 | 97.20) Yuzuru Hanyu
196.95 (100.45 | 96.50) Rest of the World (TES Ten, PCS Chan)

Hanyu set a new record in terms of TES that PCS. However, contrary to what happened in the short program, remained behind Patrick Chan in the "performance / execution". In fact, at the Trophee Eric Bompard in 2013, the Canadian won 9.86 against 9.75 in Nagano reached by Olympic champion. On the technical side the edge over the competition is enormous, as Denis Ten, for now the best in the rest of the world, it stopped over eighteen lengths below.

Adding the technical score of Ten and program components of Chan, Yuzuru Hanyu would have a margin of more than 19 points.


TOTAL SCORE - TOTAL SCORE

322.40 (106.33 | 216.07) Yuzuru Hanyu
295.27 (098,52 | 196.75) Patrick CHAN
300.63 (103.68 | 196.95) rest of the world JIN + TEN + CHAN

In the total score of the competition, Hanyu has an advantage over the competition abysmal. Patrick Chan, the previous record holder, stopped at 295.27, then more than twenty-seven points below. Adding the best evidence of TES and PCS competition the situation does not change because the crabs margin student Brian Orser remains close to 22 points.