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Verlioca said:
Don't know how stupid the questions are, but I'd still appreciate some answers. :)

1. Rule 350 of Special regulations & Technical rules says:
"If sixty (60) seconds started from the call to the start have expired and the skater/s has/have not yet taken the starting position, he/they will be considered as withdrawn."

What happens next? Is the athlete considered withdrawn and that's the end of it, no further repercussions, or do some consequences happen?

What happens if an athlete is expected to compete at some event, but simply doesn't show up? No missing the call to start, but doesn't come at all (say, didn't get visa, missed three planes in a row or some other non-medical reason). Again, what are the consequences?
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Are these the most up-to-date regulations? The time given is 30 seconds now, unless you are the first skater after the warmup in which case it is still 60.

I've never seen it happen or even heard of it happening, so I don't know the answer to the question about what would happen next.

The athlete who just didn't show up would be considered withdrawn, but they would not get any refund of their entry fee and I daresay would be persona non grata for simply not showing up. However, this assumes that the athlete didn't actually tell anybody that he wouldn't be there, which would be an odd way for anyone to act, let alone an athlete. The only consequence, for example, that Misha Ge received for not getting a visa in time was that he didn't get to skate a second GP.

gkelly explained above what the tech panel does with the PPC, but I would like to add: It really annoys me when people ask that question as though the tech panel are automated idiots who can't handle any deviation at all.
 
Verlioca, welcome to GS and congratulations on your first post.

Info about the entry process is given in the announcement of each event. With the entry form, the entrant is supposed to file his music cds, music information, and his program content form, and fees, by the date stated in the announcement.

If the skater does not have a complete entry, it looks like he doesn't get accredited, and is not entered into the draw for start order.

From a typical announcement (2015 Leo Scheu competition in Graz):

Entries should be done by the entry forms. By first sending your Pre-Entry by August 31st 2015.

The Deadline of entries is September 20th 2015! Entries must be done either with the attached Entry Forms for Teams and Judges. With the entry forms, the “Program Content Sheet” must be returned to the Organizing Committee in time.

It is mandatory that the Program Content Sheet must be filled in precisely by each Skater/Team in english using the terminology for the elements listed in the respective ISU Communication.

With the close of Entries on Entry Fees have to be transfered to the following bank account:
Bank: Raiffeisen-Landesbank Steiermark BLZ: 38000 Kontonr.: 7.129.778, EUR Kontoinh.: Grazer Eislaufverein BIC: RZSTAT2G IBAN: AT20 3800 0000 0712 9778

Entries will not be accepted, if the Entry Fee has not arrived at the Organizers account in time. Unpaid Entries will not be on the Entry List and therefor will not be drawn!

4.1 Entries by Name
Entries by name of Skaters and Judges must be made not later than September 20th 2015 20:00 Graz time by mail: [email protected] with entry forms
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It looks like the skater never gets his fee refunded, even if he does not get to skate.
 
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Verlioca said:
Don't know how stupid the questions are, but I'd still appreciate some answers. :)

1. Rule 350 of Special regulations & Technical rules says:
"If sixty (60) seconds started from the call to the start have expired and the skater/s has/have not yet taken the starting position, he/they will be considered as withdrawn."

What happens next? Is the athlete considered withdrawn and that's the end of it, no further repercussions, or do some consequences happen? ...
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karne said:
Are these the most up-to-date regulations? The time given is 30 seconds now, unless you are the first skater after the warmup in which case it is still 60.

I've never seen it happen or even heard of it happening, so I don't know the answer to the question about what would happen next. ...
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Re the time limit for the starting position, are the current penalties a deduction of 1.0 point after thirty seconds, and withdrawal after sixty seconds?

Late start
Rule 350, paragraph 2 Each Skater/Pair/Couple must take the starting position of each Segment of the competition (Short Program/Short Dance, Free Skating/Free Dance or Pattern Dance) at the latest thirty (30) seconds after he/they are called to the start. If this time has expired and the skater/s has/have not yet taken the starting position, the Referee shall apply a deduction of 1.0 point (deducted from the final score) as per Rule 353, paragraph 1. n). If sixty (60) seconds started from the call to the start have expired and the skater/s has/have not yet taken the starting position, he/they will be considered as withdrawn. The first Competitor/s in a warm-up group will be granted an extra time of thirty (30) seconds after he/they is/are called to the start. The timing procedure as described above will start after that thirty (30) seconds extra time period.

http://static.isu.org/media/139536/1874-sp-changes-accepted-by-the-2014-isu-congress.pdf (Jun 2014)​

Verlioca, I don't know what type of possible further repercussions/consequences you are wondering about, but IMO, being considered a withdrawal after sixty seconds seems a sufficiently large "price" to pay.
 
Thank you everyone for your answers, it was really educating!

karne said:
gkelly explained above what the tech panel does with the PPC, but I would like to add: It really annoys me when people ask that question as though the tech panel are automated idiots who can't handle any deviation at all.
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It's not the question of whether they see what's actually happening. I'm sure they do. However, the question is what they are going to do about it, whether this kind of behaviour is allowed by the rules, and if not, then what are the consequences for the athletes.
 
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When was the last time a well known person or pair skated to pas de duex in an international competition??
 
Just watching some vids and quite a few skaters fist pump or look really excited in different ways as they manage to land their last jump. It made me wonder: has anyone done this and then promptly fallen? Anyone seen that? :slink:
 
While I know that almost all Japanese skaters go to universities, and often the top skaters advance to post-graduate courses related to sports, I wonder if that's as common in the other countries.
I remember Boyang saying in a interview that he goes to a special school for athletes that he doesn't need to study a lot, how common it is in China for atheletes to go to general college? I just learnt that Mikhail goes to a university and wonder how common that may be in Russia (Not sure about what kind of university though.) I think Adelina goes to a kind of sport univerisity in Russia, doesn't she? And of course, I have tons of respect for Yuko Kavaguti for going to university when she barely knew Russian. I'm also curious to know what happened to Christina Gao. Does she still compete?
 
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I have a question about Evgenia's program when she is supposedly speaking to the deaf. Could someone be so kind as to link to the part in a YouTube video of when she's doing this? Admittedly I know very little about sign language, however I couldn't seem to differentiate it from non-sign langauge choreographed arm movement. Thank you. :)
 
Hello I have a question regarding spins:
Shiraiwa LSp3 and LSp4

The features involved should be (thanks to C_T_T)
-8 revs in side position
-change of position from sideways to backwards
-haircutter
-Biellmann

So where is she losing a level? number of rotations?
 
This question could be somewhat silly but, do we have a page to ask a favor of GS writers to publish articles on certain topics? If possible, I really want to see articles other than skaters. For example, I would be delighted with interviews about our favorite choreographers such as Lori Nicole, David Wilson, Jeff Buttle, Philip Mills and etc. Or great coaches, and favorite commentators like British Euro guys. Directly emailing to the writers can be a solution, but I'm also interested in seeing how other people think. :)
 
Crossover said:
This question could be somewhat silly but, do we have a page to ask a favor of GS writers to publish articles on certain topics? If possible, I really want to see articles other than skaters. For example, I would be delighted with interviews about our favorite choreographers such as Lori Nicole, David Wilson, Jeff Buttle, Philip Mills and etc. Or great coaches, and favorite commentators like British Euro guys. Directly emailing to the writers can be a solution, but I'm also interested in seeing how other people think. :)
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FWIW The Skating Lesson does do interviews like this and has a number of old ones along these lines. Phillp Mills specifically was interviewed earlier this year, they also have interviews with Kori Ade and Frank Carrol if you are interested in interviews and Brad Griffies and Lauren Sheehan from the costuming side.
 
StitchMonkey said:
FWIW The Skating Lesson does do interviews like this and has a number of old ones along these lines. Phillp Mills specifically was interviewed earlier this year, they also have interviews with Kori Ade and Frank Carrol if you are interested in interviews and Brad Griffies and Lauren Sheehan from the costuming side.
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Thanks for the valuable info. It is really good to hear that.
 
Crossover said:
This question could be somewhat silly but, do we have a page to ask a favor of GS writers to publish articles on certain topics? If possible, I really want to see articles other than skaters. For example, I would be delighted with interviews about our favorite choreographers such as Lori Nicole, David Wilson, Jeff Buttle, Philip Mills and etc. Or great coaches, and favorite commentators like British Euro guys. Directly emailing to the writers can be a solution, but I'm also interested in seeing how other people think. :)
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Not a silly question at all, Crossover.
I like your idea of making suggestions/requests for GS article coverage.

StitchMonkey said:
FWIW The Skating Lesson does do interviews like this and has a number of old ones along these lines. Phillp Mills specifically was interviewed earlier this year, they also have interviews with Kori Ade and Frank Carrol if you are interested in interviews and Brad Griffies and Lauren Sheehan from the costuming side.
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True, but GS print interviews would be appreciated in their own right, so I hope that something comes of Crossover's suggestion.

The two-part TSL interview with Phillip Mills totaled something like ninety minutes of video, IIRC.
It was a great interview (thank you, TSL :)), but not every GS member has ninety minutes to devote to watching one interview.
To its credit, TSL has been prolific with interview videos, but I have only scratched the surface of watching them. I have liked those that I have watched, but their length is a major reason that I have not watched more of them.

(Plus when I want to go back and refresh my memory about a certain quote, for example, it is a lot easier to go back to a print interview than to ninety minutes of video.)
 
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