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As long as he stays healthy, his activity is welcome! He's showing at least one new program? He's done the coreo work this May?
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As long as he stays healthy, his activity is welcome! He's showing at least one new program? He's done the coreo work this May?
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Don't think he had the chance to work with DW as CSOI tour was done a couple of days ago? Perhaps he may call Kenji to get another fun/comic program in Japan?
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What you mean about Kenji's coreo is a collaboration program with musician? Or any competition program?
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Thank you! Both links work!
Javi does have a busy schedule. Hope he can take good care of himself, stay healthy and happy, and get some rest whenever he can.
Does Miki also skate in FaOI? If so we'll probably see her post some fluff over the next month.
As for new programs... CSOI ended on Saturday. I don't think he could get a new program choreographed in such a short amount of time?
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Oh, Javi's crazy off-season schedule
though it seems that he did have fun with fellow skaters during the tours, it must be exhausting. FaOI 2016 are scheduled 3show in a row every weekend for 4 weeks, he may take a break in the middle of every week. Yes, Miki is also in the cast of Fantasy on Ice . Japan has became his 3rd home now
. I recalled he stayed in Japan for over a month during the off season of 2013 and joked that he should buy a house there.
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Yeah, Miki is a fixed member of the FaOI cast :yes:
As for choreography, EX usually don't take much time to do, specially for gifted performers like Javi. Competitive programs take a bit more time, but perhaps DW (who I assume will be his choregrapher) has started choosing tracks
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Yeah, Miki is a fixed member of the FaOI cast :yes:
As for choreography, EX usually don't take much time to do, specially for gifted performers like Javi. Competitive programs take a bit more time, but perhaps DW (who I assume will be his choregrapher) has started choosing tracks
Yes, Kenji said that Javi is a quick learner and it was fun to work with him. Javi asked Kenji to choreograph a show program suitable to Japanese audience last summer. It turns out his bull fighter exhibition is well received and he has the most glamorous costume of his career so far.
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Hope he takes a rest! He deserves it.
Wow, the FaOI cast list looks great!
I guess it's quite possible that they've already started thinking about new programs, but I doubt we'll learn anything soon. I think last summer people didn't hear about Javi's new competitive programs until July or something?
I guess it's quite possible that they've already started thinking about new programs, but I doubt we'll learn anything soon. I think last summer people didn't hear about Javi's new competitive programs until July or something?
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Yeh, an outstanding cast tempting me to go for at least one of the shows, even though I usually prefer to watch competitions. I have yet made my mind.
They put together Black Betty earlier off season and Javi used it an exhibition grogram, with very difficult jump layout. But last year he did not start working on SP until vacationed in Spain in late summer. Whatever, his team has done brilliant job packaging him well the previous seasons, keep on good working and don't fail us in the most important season.
Since last year he worked with Antonio Najarro, it probably made sense to wait until he was in Spain?
This year it sounds like Javi probably won't be back in Toronto until August or September or something. Assuming David will be choreographing both his programs, I wonder whether they would wait for that long before learning new programs. Anyway, I'm sure they know what they are doing and Javi's programs have been great, so hopefully we'll continue to be delighted in the future.
This year it sounds like Javi probably won't be back in Toronto until August or September or something. Assuming David will be choreographing both his programs, I wonder whether they would wait for that long before learning new programs. Anyway, I'm sure they know what they are doing and Javi's programs have been great, so hopefully we'll continue to be delighted in the future.
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I loved Antonio Najarro's work, which shows us the brilliant artistic side of Javi. Somehow I am tired of those criticisms on him, classic music does not automatically equal artistic and skaters are entitled to skate to the music they feel most comfortable with, given the extremely high technical level. Javi's performance is very accessible, which is what the sports needs, to get more casual fan interested in the figure skating. I remembered last year in Shanghai, most of the local audience did not know Javi before the competition, but his performance of SP brought down the fully-packaged arena and the next day, many wanted him to win the title.
Brian will come to Spain for Javi's summer camp in Andorra. Tracy Wilson also came last year. How nice they are, helping him to build the figure skating in his country.
Javi used to assist them with Toronto's summer camps, but I am not sure whether this is the arrangement this year. I am curious which GP events Javi will select or he finally decides to skip the GP competitions this coming season, which he had planned to do so but didn't because of two back-to-back GPF at his home country. However, it is not common for elite skaters to skip GP events in the pre-Olympic season, and it is very important for Javi to keep the momentum towards 2017-18 season.
Seeing these 3 guys together is a sugar treat
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Nah, I highly doubt he will skip the GP series. It gives him the chance to get used to his programs, layout, and measure his scores against the other top skaters' scores. Doing only JO (which is only the FS), Nats (where he waters down his content), Euros (basically a warm up competition for him) and Worlds might not be such a good idea. He is a late-season skater after all.
My guess for his GP events are SA and COR. Which is good for him since he will at least save himself the jet lag for SA, and he has many fans in Russia whom he meets after the competition.
However I have always been confused regarding the criteria of how the GP events are assigned. Some tell me it's the skaters, some tell me it's the Feds, some say it's a mix of both
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Nah, I highly doubt he will skip the GP series. It gives him the chance to get used to his programs, layout, and measure his scores against the other top skaters' scores. Doing only JO (which is only the FS), Nats (where he waters down his content), Euros (basically a warm up competition for him) and Worlds might not be such a good idea. He is a late-season skater after all.
My guess for his GP events are SA and COR. Which is good for him since he will at least save himself the jet lag for SA, and he has many fans in Russia whom he meets after the competition.
However I have always been confused regarding the criteria of how the GP events are assigned. Some tell me it's the skaters, some tell me it's the Feds, some say it's a mix of both
Won't SA be too early for him? As far as I know, the top three of the worlds get the chance to pick their GP events and they are not going to compete head to head until GPF, if all of them can make it. Of course, the world champion has the first priority, and Javi selected Cup of China and COR last year, China is where he got his first world title and the timing fit him, and he always goes to Russia, since he has a strong fan base there. Actually, I am thinking about the Worlds next year which is to be hold in Finland, a country close to Russia, where he also has tons of fans. In a recent interview he gave to a Japanese magazine, he made it clear that he wants to defend his title next year.
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I am with you completely on this. As a huge classical music fan myself, the way some programs butcher the music actually annoys me. Of course, there are great programs with classical music, but using classical music does not automatically make your program "more artistic". And many classical musicians themselves would not say that classical music is the only one superior art out there. One of my favorite classical pianists, for example, is also a Jazz fan and an amateur Jazz pianist himself. By his confession, Jazz is neither easier to master nor of inferior artistic value.
Along the same line, the other two arguments I strongly disagree with are 1) comedy is easier to do, and 2) it's easier to portray a character.
Those who believe comedy is by its nature easier to do have little to no idea how comedy works. Unfortunately this attitude can be found in other disciplines, too. If you talk to anyone who understands the craft of screenwriting, for example, she/he will tell you that comedy is by no means intrinsically easier than drama, although the work that goes into making comedy is often not fully acknowledged. One screenwriter said that many critics deslike comedy because they don't have anything clever to say about it: one can always analyze drama, tearing apart all kinds of elements and dropping all kinds big words in front of the reader, but it's difficult to do the same with comedy. In a certain sense, whether comedy works depends on, and only on, the kind of reaction it's able to get from the audience. And many critics don't like it, as they don't know what to do about it. Because they don't know what to say about comedy, they deem it somehow less worthy of appreciation.
Similarly, contrary to what some people would like to think, putting together a comic program is not intrinsically easier. For example, first of all you need a great comic sensibility, which comes from an acute understanding of life, people, and society. And a lot of details and nuances are needed in order to make comedy work, and the timing must always be exact. Javi himself once admitted to a fan that he found comedy more difficult to do, because of how precise comedy must be, and how much work has to go into making every single detail precise.
And I won't even start to argue against the idea that to portray a character is by definition easier. Instead I'll just refer to a Chinese saying: "it's easier to draw a ghost than to draw a person." Why? Because no one has seen a ghost and we all see people everyday. The more frames of references you have, the more difficult to make the drawing work. A mere "look like" just won't do.
Whew... I didn't realize my rant was going to be this long. Sorry!
Brian will come to Spain for Javi's summer camp in Andorra. Tracy Wilson also came last year. How nice they are, helping him to build the figure skating in his country.
I am curious which GP events Javi will select or he finally decides to skip the GP competitions this coming season, which he had planned to do so but didn't because of two back-to-back GPF at his home country. However, it is not common for elite skaters to skip GP events in the pre-Olympic season, and it is very important for Javi to keep the momentum towards 2017-18 season.
Seeing these 3 guys together is a sugar treat
It's so nice for Brian and Tracy to help develop figure skating in Spain! And I guess the experience of having these camps must be extremely valuable for Javi.
It seems that this article says Javi will be going to a camp in Canada, although I don't know whether the information in the article is 100% correct. (Javi's camp is in Andorra but the article says Spain, so I am not quite sure how much we should trust this article.) :
I agree that at this point it is unlikely for Javi to skip the GP season. In addition to the reasons already mentioned in this thread, waiting until the Euros to find out how his new programs are received could be risky, not because of whether he wants to have a chance to defend his Euros and Worlds titles, but because Worlds next year will also determine how many spots Spain is going to get for 2018, if I understand the qualification thing correctly, and I don't think Javi would want to risk losing his country a spot.
Oh and the video is lovely!:luv17: I love the CSOI cast!
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The way I understand it is that the top skaters can state their wishes, but the Feds that hold the respective GP events can still decide whether to let them come. Sometimes a Fed won't let someone come because they want to make sure their own skater(s) can finish well, etc. But I could be wrong.
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Whew... I didn't realize my rant was going to be this long. Sorry!
Oh, how lovely your so-called "rant" are:luv17:, which I cannot agree more and I wish can go on forever
I am big classic music fan too and I love opera, ballet and jazz very much. I think this is why figure skating is my favorite sport and ice dance is my favorite discipline.
Speaking of jazz and classic music, I don't consider either one "superior" over the other. They are what they are. I love them both. Javi excels at interpreting jazz music, perhaps these myriad of different combinations of notes fit his style & personality very well, which is more "acceptable"/"accessible" to the audience. I honestly don't think using jazz music for the program is easier, as I see too many OTT/forced/plain performances, or the skaters were hold back for failure to catch the rhythm due to lack of technical competence.
As to the selection of classic music, skaters need to be smart, but I have to say many skaters skated through the music they chose, it made no difference if they pick another piece of classic music. In other cases, skaters chose crowd-pleasing/over used classic music which bored me to death. I recalled the commentary of Jenny Weir on Max Aaron's free skate at this worlds which was too harsh in my view. I admire his courage to step out of the box, but Max could definitely choose some music fits his muscular body type better and find & develop his own style, getting rid of those demanding balletic choreography, e.g. waiving his arms swan-like
I do agree it is a torture to watch these programs manipulating classic music in an unpleasant way, now lyrical are allowed to use in all discipline. It seems that the skaters are given more selections, but in a real world, it really drove me nuts
sitting in the arena to endure "You raise me up " again and again or the horrific whisper "Jack, don't go, ... I promise" 
pop music sucks in the figure skating events. But I have to say what a genius Kurt Browning is to use 80's pop songs in Javi's Super Javi program, and Javi is hilarious funny when he is in Super-Javi model 
Sochi should give him a OGM for his exhibition performance, while he was so upset for his miss of podium, he tried his best to please the audience .I admire Javi's talent playing comic character, and the complimentary of young version of Kurt Browning justify him very well. Chinese fans nickname him "little pirate", how remarkable for a 18-year old boy portraying a memorable character on the Olympic ice, whose performance was loved and remembered by fans/casual audience for many years.
Andorra is a very tiny country between Spain and France, 180 miles away from Barcelona airport, I guess the journalist did not bother to check that Andorra is a country, not one of cities of Spain.
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This is confusing. I understand the federations host the GP events have to accept the top three of the worlds if they make their selections, and can turn down the selections made by the others if the federations think it would hamper the placements of their own skaters. USFSA rejected Javi's selections of SA several times, IIRC.
Speaking of summer camps, here is a Spanish article on Brian Orser when he coached in one of Javi's summer camps in Spain last year. There is a video of his interview on the webpage.
fan cam on meet and greet COI Victoria
The photo
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Brian said in this interview that being a world champion can be overwhelming. Judging by the 2015-2016 season I think they are able to deal with the mental aspect quite well. Hopefully Javi can be even more composed going into next season.
I am assuming that Javi won't do NHK and CoC this year, and I guess he probably also won't do SC. That leaves us with SA, TEB and CoR. I kind of want him to do SA (especially since I probably can go) and maybe TEB, as he hasn't been there for a long, long time, and it's not too far away from Spain.
Oh and Javi for sure looks good in that photo!
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Brian told him right after his victory in Shanghai that "your life has changed forever". Whilst in the TSL and other interviews, he said that he had not changed at all, except he got much busier, he has showed more confidence/command on ice. The title lit him a fire and unleash the competitiveness hidden inside of him. For sure there would be more pressure on him being a double world champion, but he would handle it well.
BTW, he certainly has gotten higher pay for these ice shows.
The one and only TEB he had been was in 2009, where his parents were there too. Time flies:noshake:
he looks gorgeous:luv17:
Javi is in Japan now
https://www.instagram.com/p/BF1PWEGvDQ7/?tagged=fantasyonice
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