The Russians have higher difficulty (higher BV). For example Mamun and Yana often have around 9.5 to 9.7 difficulty score. The other girls' difficulties are around 8.7 to 9.2 at max
Mamun wins! Yay!!
That is not exactly how it works. I'll try to explain.
The execution mark starts at 10 and is all about deductions, where the judges look for technical faults and artistic faults. There are small deductions at 0,10 which for the untrained eye may be hard to notice. Those are errors like grabbing the ball, ribbon end involuntarily on the floor, incomplete rolls of the apparatus, body shapes not fixed, etc. Then there are deductions at 0,30 like loss of the apparatus without moving, lack of balance between left/right handwork, etc. Then there are deductions at 0,50 like loss of apparatus with 1-2 steps for retrieval, and the biggest deduction at 0,7 for falls, loss of apparatus outside the floor area, etc. All deductions are then added together and withdrawn from 10.
The difficulty mark starts at 0 and depends on the sheets the gymnast has declared for each apparatus. In the sheet they write down everything they are supposed to do, including leaps, balances, pivots, risks, masteries and apparatus handling. Then the judges add together the valid difficulties performed on the sheet. Basically this means that if a gymnast only does 2 rotations in attitude pivot, and she has written 3, she will only be credited for 2. However if she does 4 rotations, and has only asked for the value of 3, she will only get credit for the first 3 rotations.
The fun thing about each gymnast in this final is that they all ask for 10 in difficulty. However, if for example during a risk, the gymnast does not catch the apparatus, the entire risk will get 0 points. What makes Margarita and Yana so much better than the other gymnasts is that they perform with little execution errors and also gets credited with the difficulty they ask for because they perform them correctly. For example in clubs I noticed that Ganna skipped one of her masteries (a value of 0,3 if done correctly), which is basically giving 0,3 away right there.
I hope this explained it a bit. Just ask if you have any more questions.
few touching photos of Yana and Rita together after the competition. It seems that the girl in their arms is Ganna
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Excellent post! Very informative.
One thing about the commentary in the US by Nastia Liukin was about how the Russians don't have time gaps between all the elements they do.
Margarita Mamun!! That ribbon performance was one for the ages.
No! Absolutely not! Son is much Better! Son has a beautiful face, grace, softness and understanding programs! (like Yana) Satoko is not even close to Son. I was so disappointed when Anna Rizatdinova with her low difficulty routine took a third place Son deserved bronze medal, especially after 5th place at 2012 Olympics.Son is Satoko of RG. I'm indifferent to her gymnastics but it sucks to have huge media an sponsorship hype on your shoulders when you aren't' even a shoo in for bronze.
I don't follow rhythmic gymnastics - did not even know until recently it was called rhythmic. I think the Russian names make more sense: artistic gymnastics is called sport gymnastics and rhythmic gymnastics is called artistic gymnastics. I was also aware of the conspiracies that the sport is rigged so that no matter how the Russians perform they always win.
But now, first of all I was deeply impressed by Margarita's performance. Who can openly say now that it was not deserved and someone else from another country was better? Second, I watched a short pre-Olympic movie on her (in Russian). Not only she and her mother are lovely people. It is also clear what a sweat factory this sport is with cut-throat internal competition, 8 hour trainings every day. Her mother gave up her life just to help Rita. My biggest respect and admiration to Margarita Mamun!
http://news.sportbox.ru/olympics/pg/spbvideo_NI655944_Mama_v_igre_Margarita_Mamun
I don't follow rhythmic gymnastics - did not even know until recently it was called rhythmic. I think the Russian names make more sense: artistic gymnastics is called sport gymnastics and rhythmic gymnastics is called artistic gymnastics.
No! Absolutely not! Son is much Better! Son has a beautiful face, grace, softness and understanding programs! (like Yana) Satoko is not even close to Son. I was so disappointed when Anna Rizatdinova with her low difficulty routine took a third place Son deserved bronze medal, especially after 5th place at 2012 Olympics.
Yana, Son, Melitina and Salome - what a tragedy was at Olympics
Oh, I got it. Sorry for misunderstanding!By referring Son to Satoko, I meant they both have a rather long shot at making the podium. They 're realistic top 5, but they can won't get the bronze if others hit.
In Polish it's the same. I have written it somewhere already even. I was confused by English terminology a lot. I mean where's artristy in Vault or Rings? I's obvious which Gymnstics is artistic in my opinion and it's not the one English speaking countries named...
In Vietnamese, it's apparatus gymnastics for AG and artistic gymnastics for RG. I thin a lot of confusion and outcry about the lack of artistry in AG can be cleared if its name is changed. The point of the so-called AG has never to promote artistry. It originated from the ancient Greeks to support military training. It was resurrected in what is now Germany at the beginning of the 19th century by Frederich Jahn, an educator and nationalist to develop the physical and mental powers of young Germans through the practice of gymnastics.