The thing with a new quad is that he usually learns it for a few years and makes it a solid tool before introducing it to the competitive programs. He is jumping a new one during ice shows first. 4Lz did not make a lot of public apperances to become a solid tool yet. So I doubt he will jump it during this season in competitions.
Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season
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His layout might be: 4lo, 4S, 3F, 4S3T, 4T, 3A2T, 3A1lo3S, 3lz
There might be no 3lo. Reason: Because 3lz costs more than 3lo.
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I will have a heart attack if he introduces 4Lz in the olympic year....
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Some people are saying Yuzuru is preparing 4lz as a back up plan. We know Yuzuru practices 4lz for a reason. They even say his 4lz in practice has become quite stable.
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Ive heard the big earthquake hit Italy today.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37171953
I got saddened to hear about it. Further, yuzu has many fans in Italy. Hope everyone is safe.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37171953
I got saddened to hear about it. Further, yuzu has many fans in Italy. Hope everyone is safe.
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Exactly, he never said that before or else that info would be captured in the media thread; and we all would have this heart attacks
and discussions back in the spring 
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I wonder if Kalina is ok. I remeber she lives in Italy. It has been quite a long time I haven't seen her posts. I hope the damage in Italy will be minimum.
Exactly, he never said that before or else that info would be captured in the media thread; and we all would have this heart attacks
I don't remember him explicitly saying 4 quads, but I don't think this is surprising either. I think we have to remember that last season's free skate layout was almost the same layout that he originally planned to challenge the post-Olympic season before the collision and surgery. 4 quads this season is likely where he intended to be all along, and maybe his original plan was to have the quad loop in his program last year as a solo jump as part of his 3 quad program before he attempted 4 quads, but his timeline got set back after the collision and surgery.
About his 4Lz, If I am not wrong, Brian mentioned it in an interview long time ago that Yuzu once already landed it during summer 2014. It's just that there has never been snippets of Yuzu landing this jump like his 4Los. I saw one footage of his 4lz attempt during ice shows practice (but he didn't quite land it and plushenko was there too) and that is it? So it is a bit hard to approximate his 4Lz quality and consistency unlike his 4Lo. I wonder what is the state of his 4Lz now.
This secrecy about his FS makes me wonder about what will surprise us.
This secrecy about his FS makes me wonder about what will surprise us.
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Yes, he is catching up on his roadmap plan towards 2018.....all the best Yuzu and please remain healthy
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It's what he will wear in competitions will suprise me, not what he will do in his programs. :hopelessness:About his 4Lz, If I am not wrong, Brian mentioned it in an interview long time ago that Yuzu once already landed it during summer 2014. It's just that there has never been snippets of Yuzu landing this jump like his 4Los. I saw one footage of his 4lz attempt during ice shows practice (but he didn't quite land it and plushenko was there too) and that is it? So it is a bit hard to approximate his 4Lz quality and consistency unlike his 4Lo. I wonder what is the state of his 4Lz now.
This secrecy about his FS makes me wonder about what will surprise us.
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Really important to keep one's priorities right
. I cannot wait for his costumes
and the explosion of fanarts 
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If he really wants high BV he can do both the 3lo and 3 lz with this layout --> 4Lo 4T 4S // 4S3T 3Alo3S 3A 3Lz3Lo 3F (or 3F3Lo and 3Lz)
I bet there will be either blings or ruffles (or BOTH). Question is, how much?
I bet there will be either blings or ruffles (or BOTH). Question is, how much?
Pretty sure it was not Yuzuru saying he will do 4 quads in his LP but all of us speculating he will do 4 quads just because he said in an interview post WC that he plan to put 2 quads in the 2nd half of his program.Saw this in Javi's thread.
Do you guys know which interview/article Yuzu said this in the spring? Did we miss it? As we didn't hear/see him for 5months since first week of April and I didn't recall he said anything about 4 quads. So if anyone has a link when he said that in the spring that would be great. Thank you.
And we continue waiting for Yuzu to reveal his programs.....and his costumes
Many thanks Hamaguri , actually it seems more than 20 people have died because of the earthquake but many are still missing unfortunately.
On a lighter note I find it hilarious/incredible that even Javi reveals details about his main rival programs, yes, I know Javi is very interested in Yuzu's strategy !
I wonder how long this comedy will last and who'll be the next TCC skater to talk about him... amazing! :shocked:
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I recalled Mrs Shirota said, it will be a new Yuzuru.....what if it is all black with no ruffles but I think the blings will still be there though
Plot twist : The costume will be so generic, like white shirts and black pants, because this is what "new Yuzuru" meant
Bolero costume was coolwhat if it is all black with no ruffles but I think the blings will still be there though
make it quick and just shoot me, pleasePlot twist : The costume will be so generic, like white shirts and black pants, because this is what "new Yuzuru" meant
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Saw this in Javi's thread.
Do you guys know which interview/article Yuzu said this in the spring? Did we miss it? As we didn't hear/see him for 5months since first week of April and I didn't recall he said anything about 4 quads. So if anyone has a link when he said that in the spring that would be great. Thank you.
And we continue waiting for Yuzu to reveal his programs.....and his costumes
Feel like I have to clarify this before it goes all ballistic - I think there was an interview where he talked about adding the quad loop to his programs right after the worlds? I'm pretty sure I did not imagine this because I talked about it with my Japanese Yuzu-fan friend back then... I cannot present links, though.
But adding a new quad type would probably translate into 4 quads in the FS - because otherwise it would make no sense, right? I mean considering what he was up to last season and what he has been doing in his FS previously. At least that's what I thought when I read it. Replacing one of his 4T,4S or the existing quad combo(s) makes no real difference in BV, but replacing one of the other triples with a quad does mean quite a lot. That way he would be ahead of anyone else at least theoretically. Of course, the risks are greater also...
I am just a little bit surprised that you Yuzu fans seem to be now somehow unaware of this speculation? I think we discussed it concerning Javi already late spring plus again later when the second TSL interview came out and he talked about his 4Lo (and did it in public just a couple of days after)...
Eppen (goes back home to Javi thread
)Feel like I have to clarify this before it goes all ballistic - I think there was an interview where he talked about adding the quad loop to his programs right after the worlds? I'm pretty sure I did not imagine this because I talked about it with my Japanese Yuzu-fan friend back then... I cannot present links, though.
But adding a new quad type would probably translate into 4 quads in the FS - because otherwise it would make no sense, right? I mean considering what he was up to last season and what he has been doing in his FS previously. At least that's what I thought when I read it. Replacing one of his 4T,4S or the existing quad combo(s) makes no real difference in BV, but replacing one of the other triples with a quad does mean quite a lot. That way he would be ahead of anyone else at least theoretically. Of course, the risks are greater also...
I am just a little bit surprised that you Yuzu fans seem to be now somehow unaware of this speculation? I think we discussed it concerning Javi already late spring plus again later when the second TSL interview came out and he talked about his 4Lo (and did it in public just a couple of days after)...
Eppen (goes back home to Javi thread
No you are right eppen , there were plans to put 4Lo as well as do 2 quads in the second half. I think the exact wording is "increase the difficulty of his jump" from Yuzuru's post WC interview. Brian is the one who said about the 4Lo and 2 quads in the 2nd half but Yuzuru himself never said explicitly that he will do 4 quads, so some of us in this thread just speculated that he would do so because it would not make sense to do 2 quads in the second half unless he aimed for 4 quads LP (I don't think 4 quad LP is speculated because he wants to do 4Lo). Back then I think in this thread there was like a few pages discussion about the pros and cons abut Yuzuru doing 4 quads. Pretty sure people in this thread are aware of the speculation.
P.S : Even if he will only do 3-quad program eventually, having 3 types of quad is still beneficial cause he can do 2 3Ts combo instead of 3T and 2T combo. So his increase in BV is abt 5 pts, even if he still do 3 quad, just because he include a 4Lo. I don't think adding 4Lo necessarily equals to 4-quad LP
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