Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season

[HanDomi]

so judging by his interviews, he wants to skate clean at Skate Canada, repeat at NHK and fail at GPF ? because it's his pattern :disapp:
Seriously I'm afraid he is not learning anything from previous season. It will end the same I guess, record skates at GP series, and then at Worlds again title lost.

 

[Rissa]

I have to agree. He has troubles with sprained ankle quite often and those prevent him from jumping his beloved 3A with no problem. So 4A is a huge risk at this stage. He'd rather go for 4Lz instead.

But even his triple lutz is not that stable.

 

[Meoima]

But even his triple lutz is not that stable.

In my opinion, the main reason why his 3lz has become less stable after Sochi is because he has been training quad lutz. I believe he stopped training quad lutz during the horrible season of injuries that is 2014-2015 but the effect was set up already.
And per the German girl (I don't remember her name, sorry) and the German magazine, Yuzuru has tried quad lutz as well (not sure about quad flip), so it has some effect on his triple lutz.

 

[Marin]

so judging by his interviews, he wants to skate clean at Skate Canada, repeat at NHK and fail at GPF ? because it's his pattern :disapp:
Seriously I'm afraid he is not learning anything from previous season. It will end the same I guess, record skates at GP series, and then at Worlds again title lost.

Media cut sentences from context, he meant he wants to practice so he can do better , he feels frustrated that he lacked the training time. It is not like that harsh honestly, for the first time I also got very worried,
"When you see me next, I want to be able to do a performance that you will say, not one but 10 or 20 layers of skin have been shed, we have waited for this Yuzuru Hanyu; I will practice while looking forward to that. [cut] If not, I'm not/ it's not Yuzuru Hanyu."
in later interviews he repeated that he wants to search right training method,so he can adjust himself better, and this feeling is not regretful Kuyashi but a motivational kuyashi.

 

[Lysambre]

Possibly, what we see as clumsiness on ice is just a step forward in evolution to this. The ultimate ice dweller.

Ohhh, maybe this is why he started wearing a white costume... first step the white, second step, the belly flopping, last step : put the black trousers back on and BE THE PENGUIN KING

 

[Raomina]

Watching the FS again, I think the 3A-1T-1L combo is actually not because he was afraid of repeating the 3S, since it was totally fine for him to do 3Sal as his planned 2nd repeated jump was 4Sal anyway and another 3Sal would be ideal to maximize his points. It was more because it was a bad landing on the 3A and he couldn't physically do the 3Sal and yet ALSO couldn't tack on a 2T, since he did that twice already (3S-2T and 3A-2T). So he did 1T-1L instead. That's why he was jumping the 3A-3S combo after the ceremony coz he messed that up. He really was thinking very quickly on his feet lol.

 

[Biellmann]

Even if he is trying to skate "clean" at Skate Canada, i'm sure he is, right now, not able to do it.
You can't force yourself to skate clean if your body isn't ready
When is SC, in three weeks?

 

[Frag]

It's from 28th to 30th of October. I'm a bit worried he could overtrain...

 

[YuzusHydroblade]

It's from 28th to 30th of October. I'm a bit worried he could overtrain...

This is what i don't like of being a Yuzu fan, i love his determination and the beautiful way he skates but i would be happier if he was more careful with his body, given how injury prone he is. I want to see him skate for many years, but i also don't want to see him in a constant "Kuyashii" state...

 

[Yatagarasu]

One thing to take into account is that when he said that, he was pumped. He just skated as he did, and he talks about the motivating frustration he feels, so I am sure there was a lot of adrenaline happening right then to do everything, right away, and more. Once he's back to normal, he'll take stock again and it'll be far easier to see what's realistic. So even if he pushes, and he's Yuzuru, so of course he pushes, I don't think it'll be to his detriment but a channeling of the feeling he had at the time, through a proper lens to maximize the time he has.

I think the only true risk is if next time there isn't any marked improvement, so the negative kind of frustration could set in but considering he will work hard, the chances of no progress are minuscule. I'm not worried.

 

[Marin]

https://postimage.org/

This is so amusing Yuzu and 3 poohs

 

[YuzusHydroblade]

https://postimage.org/

This is so amusing Yuzu and 3 poohs

The contrast in the last pic between his face and the pooh is really funny!

 

[Meoima]

https://postimage.org/

This is so amusing Yuzu and 3 poohs

I can see that we have 2 mamas who worry for Yuzuru here lol

 

[PatricksGaze]

https://postimage.org/

This is so amusing Yuzu and 3 poohs

Now if we added Kikuchi to the family, there'd be 3 of them 3Poohs or 3Mamas
I really loved it how both of them performed with Yuzu sometimes. It's not just Brian now, so who is next I wonder lol

 

[Biellmann]

https://postimage.org/

This is so amusing Yuzu and 3 poohs

Hm, my antivirus program says it's a bad idea to open it, well, at least i know it's working

 

[fireovertheice]

Seeing that somewhere the marks of Yuzuru at Autumn Classic 2016 have been confronted to those of Shoma and Javier at Japan Open - and as it has been already said it's not the case for different reasons - I checked the results of Shoma and of all the other winners of the Challenger series events disputed until now.
These are the data:

2016-17 ISU Figure Skating Challenger Series - Men

- Autumn Classic > Yuzuru Hanyu > 260.57
- Lombardia Trophy > Shoma Uno > 258.93
- U.S. International Classic > Jason Brown > 254.04
- Ondrej Nepela Memorial > Sergei Voronov > 237.42
- Nebelhorn Trophy > Alexander Petrov > 232.21

So, also if they are different competitions and diverse factors should be considered, our boy doesn't seem so behind the others ....
I hope that he will consider this in order to not overtrain and/or to risk further injuries (also if we know "score is score and performance is performance..". ).

 

[Meoima]

Seeing that somewhere the marks of Yuzuru at Autumn Classic 2016 have been confronted to those of Shoma and Javier at Japan Open - and as it has been already said it's not the case for different reasons - I checked the results of Shoma and of all the other winners of the Challenger series events disputed until now.
These are the data:

2016-17 ISU Figure Skating Challenger Series - Men

- Autumn Classic > Yuzuru Hanyu > 260.57
- Lombardia Trophy > Shoma Uno > 258.93
- U.S. International Classic > Jason Brown > 254.04
- Ondrej Nepela Memorial > Sergei Voronov > 237.42
- Nebelhorn Trophy > Alexander Petrov > 232.21

So, also if they are different competitions and diverse factors should be considered, our boy doesn't seem so behind the others ....
I hope that he will consider this in order to not overtrain and/or to risk further injuries (also if we know "score is score and performance is performance..". ).

And Yuzuru was away from audience for 6 months, was not allowed to train jump for a long time, and he came out with the hardest layouts.

We should not forget that Yuzuru at Autumn Classic didn't even execute his layout at full potential: pop quad combo in the SP, pop quad combo in the LP, botched the 3A combos which he usually got even higher score than a great quad...

Yuzuru's scoring potential is enormous. I hope he save it up to use at 4CC and WC.

 

[kiches]

Watching the FS again, I think the 3A-1T-1L combo is actually not because he was afraid of repeating the 3S, since it was totally fine for him to do 3Sal as his planned 2nd repeated jump was 4Sal anyway and another 3Sal would be ideal to maximize his points. It was more because it was a bad landing on the 3A and he couldn't physically do the 3Sal and yet ALSO couldn't tack on a 2T, since he did that twice already (3S-2T and 3A-2T). So he did 1T-1L instead. That's why he was jumping the 3A-3S combo after the ceremony coz he messed that up. He really was thinking very quickly on his feet lol.

I actually think he did get confused and thought the doing the original planned 3A-1/2L-3S would be invalidated since he popped the 4S3T to a 3S2T. Hence why he was counting on his fingers in the Kiss & Cry. He probably didn't realize he wouldn't have zayaked if he did the original combo and just did whatever instead of the 3S. The best thing to do points wise would've been try for a 3A-3T instead, right?

 

[Raomina]

I actually think he did get confused and thought the doing the original planned 3A-1/2L-3S would be invalidated since he popped the 4S3T to a 3S2T. Hence why he was counting on his fingers in the Kiss & Cry. He probably didn't realize he wouldn't have zayaked if he did the original combo and just did whatever instead of the 3S. The best thing to do points wise would've been try for a 3A-3T instead, right?

Pointswise, it would be 3S > 3T > 2T > whatever he did. But his landing didn't give him the opportunity to do any triples I think, since it was really low, so he wouldn't have tried 3T either even if he wanted to. So his only option then would be at least 2T, but he didn't do that either, so I was thinking that he was counted his 2T's after. Of course, I don't know what he's really thinking then, though he should at least know now that whatever happens to one of his quad salchows, his combo is safe, so he doesn't need to think about it.

 

[kiches]

Pointswise, it would be 3S > 3T > 2T > whatever he did. But his landing didn't give him the opportunity to do any triples I think, since it was really low, so he wouldn't have tried 3T either even if he wanted to. So his only option then would be at least 2T, but he didn't do that either, so I was thinking that he was counted his 2T's after. Of course, I don't know what he's really thinking then, though he should at least know now that whatever happens to one of his quad salchows, his combo is safe, so he doesn't need to think about it.

Ah you're right, I must be still half asleep since I forgot 3S > 3T for a moment.