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looks somewhat worse than Yuzu's jumps, that's true :biggrin:
I told you don't believe Mishin's interview lol... I have heard something he talked in private about some of the current top skaters which he never told the media... if they heard it some people will be MADDDDD.
 
I told you don't believe Mishin's interview lol... I have heard something he talked in private about some of the current top skaters which he never told the media... if they heard it some people will be MADDDDD.

Now you make me curious! :)
 
With Mishin, I am certain he is 50% trolling so just take his comments as some kind of sideway remarks.

Russian fans were sure of the same thing. The bloody article attracted some 500 posts - and most of it was about Liza, I think. :)
 
It's his opinion, and he's allowed to have it. I haven't seen any of Artur's 4Loops and have seen a lot of Yuzu's.
As his coach, Mishin will have seen most of Artur's 4Loops, and we don't know if he's seen Yuzu's training videos of his 4Loops or just the ones Yuzu landed in competition, which weren't so good. There isn't enough information to make a comparison.
There's no comparison to be made...

"There are many champions in practice. But very few in competition" (Plushenko)

:-D
 
You know, Yuzuru's air position is often not mentioned and is underrated but it is actually so pretty and tight and straight and beautiful. Seeing many men and ladies jump with air position that is all over the place makes me really appreciate his, thus I feel like mentioning this.

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Actually, a lot of his other qualities as a skater are often underrated and not mentioned. People are often fixated by his quads and jumps (which I can't blame cause they are top of the field and are things of beauty)
Spins : From current active male skaters, there is not much who is actually a better spinner than him in my opinion. I can think of a few but his spin is definitely one of the best. Fabulous speed, centered with difficult position and arms movement/choreography matching the music. <3
Transitions : King of transition in and out of elements tbh.
Skating skills : Honestly among current active males, aside Chan, can't think of a lot of guys who have better skating skills than him.
Steps : Though I can name a handful of skaters with perhaps better steps, his step is also top-class.

Not mentioning artistry cause it is subjective. But personally I think he has very good interpretation skills, musicality and is very artistic.
 
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AUTUMN CLASSIC

Misha Ge ‏@mishageofficial 30m30 minutes ago Montréal, Québec
Stitch X Pooh (👾 X &#128059 @ Montreal, Quebec

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLEhGnfB0GF/

EDIT: two more, the podium ones!

The famous one
The second one

Misha is so funny and sweet! And max is a nice guy!

https://mobile.twitter.com/mishageofficial/status/782755338017579008
"After You Sir, No After You Sir, No Sir only after You Sir......Continuing" https://www.instagram.com/p/BLFKaeXBuzQ/

https://mobile.twitter.com/mishageofficial/status/782755312205910016
"When SpacePooh went for next level of difficulty : FloweryTripleAxel™💐" But tow-car arrived for… https://www.instagram.com/p/BLFKXwxhki7/


https://mobile.twitter.com/mishageofficial/status/782755284867362816
"Hold on, let me post a tweet first" #BackStage https://www.instagram.com/p/BLFKIDeBUeS/


https://mobile.twitter.com/mishageofficial/status/782755259068231680
"We can't take normal photos only" #BackStage https://www.instagram.com/p/BLFKHFPhiAB/

source

And then to add thistles to thorns, on the way to the mixed zone, Hanyu slipped on the floor and did a pratfall.


déjà vu
much? I suggest some of these just a skate guard version

Possibly, what we see as clumsiness on ice is just a step forward in evolution to this. The ultimate ice dweller.

well we've seen him practice the penguin slide before, so I think you're on to something



https://postimage.org/

This is so amusing Yuzu and 3 poohs

2016-17 ISU Figure Skating Challenger Series - Men

- Autumn Classic > Yuzuru Hanyu > 260.57
- Lombardia Trophy > Shoma Uno > 258.93
- U.S. International Classic > Jason Brown > 254.04
- Ondrej Nepela Memorial > Sergei Voronov > 237.42
- Nebelhorn Trophy > Alexander Petrov > 232.21

So, also if they are different competitions and diverse factors should be considered, our boy doesn't seem so behind the others ....
I hope that he will consider this in order to not overtrain and/or to risk further injuries (also if we know "score is score and performance is performance..". ).


INTERVIEWS & NEWS

This short interview is something new.

https://mobile.twitter.com/corszk1220/status/782610457802661890

What he wants to say is the both programs are nice enough to keep practicing for them.
He wants to say is the both programs are nice so that he can devote himself with them.

This is news clip including the interview at tcc on the other days open practice (September 13-14). From 7:00-. Brian's short comment is also new?(around 10:00) I hope there is any translation.
@Sugy summarized it yesterday (sorry I can't find it since this thread goes so fast!)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4vohh6_161002-ac-fsニュース⑥_sport
Yuzu and Marin combination is something new.

What impressed me is he says efforts don't pay off sometimes. The person who practice most is not always a winner. But the effort that didn't lead to success itself isnt meaningless and it may need the new way of effort.
This statement here reminds me why I'm a fan of this wonderful athlete. I'm one who never goes for all about consistent perfection and winning but I always finds myself supporting athletes that keep evolving and able to acknowledge their own weakness but is not feeling down about, instead he use it as another stepping platform to improve himself. Really really admirable. :clap:

Yuzuru's words are always so precious.

EDIT: My memory is humble. I'll revise what I wrote last time:

"I like the feeling being expected. It is not a pressure. It is a pleasure/kick." (快感 kaikan has a nuance beyond "pleasure".)

I hope someone will try the whole translation. This is a good interview.


In this interview where he said eagerly "that wasn't Yuzuru Hanyu, Yuzuru Hanyu janai desu", before that he also said something about Japan Open and guys scoring around 190 and how he feels about that. Could someone please translate this whole part? :)

That was about Shoma Uno gaining the higher score than Yuzu did at ACI. He said he felt useless but this is not bad because it would push him to train more and show at Skate Canada what he is capable of. He said Yuzuru Hanyu that you saw at ACI is not the real one, you'll see the real one at SC.

Media cut sentences from context, he meant he wants to practice so he can do better , he feels frustrated that he lacked the training time. It is not like that harsh honestly, for the first time I also got very worried,
"When you see me next, I want to be able to do a performance that you will say, not one but 10 or 20 layers of skin have been shed, we have waited for this Yuzuru Hanyu; I will practice while looking forward to that. [cut] If not, I'm not/ it's not Yuzuru Hanyu."
in later interviews he repeated that he wants to search right training method,so he can adjust himself better, and this feeling is not regretful Kuyashi but a motivational kuyashi.

Sorry, if someone has already commented to this effect.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4vrthu_161003-密着-偉業達成までの舞台裏_sport

Yuzuru actually said at 5:45,

"I’ll do perfect performances in the next competition. Definitely.
(Yuzuru said No-miss no engi = performance without any failure. No-miss is a typical Japanese English)

I will do practice so as to make a success of it.

Otherwise....., otherwise, it's not Yuzuru Hanyu."

The second part is omitted in many news clips and newspaper articles, and I'm afraid that gives a bit different impression to viewers or reader. I just don't like it.

By the way, around 4:06 -

Yuzuru: It did not take so much time before making a success (of 4Lo). The control is difficult. It is difficult to explain by words, but you have to enter the jump "Shu!"

I guess not, at least in near future. In January when he was interviewed by Shizuka Arakawa in her TV show he said that mastering 4A is his technical goal. But he also said that he knew the risk of trying it because he remembered tackling 3A caused much damage to his body, so it would be difficult to give it a try while he is still competing. In that interview it seemed more like a big dream after retirement.
Anyway he knows the risk very well. So don’t worry too much.

This is the video from today's news about the mention of 4A by him:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4vrvch

starts from 3:49
Anyone can translate what he said? I only catch the 4A part.
He says “I will be happy if I will be able to master 4A ultimately.”


I’ve seen over 30 news clips since last Saturday but I could not find a footage which captured his entire comment neither after SP nor after FS, and in some TV shows they quote his words out of context (the one about 4A is one of them.) Maybe it’s better to wait for a while till some magazine or figure-skating-related TV program will cover his whole interviews… or his longer interviews. These fragmented interviews are causing confusion even among Japanese speakers. Being able to see Yuzuru being Yuzuru after all these months is great though.

This news clip shows the detailed footage of 4ltz. You can see 16 yo yuzu practicing 4ltz.
He'd kept practiced though, he had no intention to put it into competition program 2 years ago, but he changed his mind 1 year ago for 2018 expecting young stars or raise of mens level.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4vrthu_161003-密着-偉業達成までの舞台裏_sport
Thank you so much sweetwater! I think this one is a full interview for after FS --> https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4vnhgq but this one also doesn't have the 4A part so maybe not that full too.

And yes, there are like 30-40 news clip in total about him during and after AC, I can't keep up

What is this video about? Does Yuzuru like Marin?
http://bit.ly/2d8ZSd0

Lol no, Marin was asking for a routine to do, an advice on how to handle pressure.

Perhaps this article hasn't been posted yet:http://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/1719041.html

It says Yuzu hurt his back(doesn't mention when), and sprained his right ankle right before the competition.
He only practices two days and then off a day, therefore he can't practice as much as he wants to.

It is worrying his condition doesn't seem to be much different from that at the Boston World after six months.
I seriously think he shouldn't aim for "no miss" performance at Skate Canada.
His body doesn't catch up with his will, as always...


TRANSLATION

On Tumblr this video got translated

Interview after FS at Autumn Classic (brief translation)

–1st free skate of the season. What’s your feeling?
Yuzuru: I want to practise soonest possible. Very regretful.

– The pace and steps and jumps were difficult?
Y: Not that it was difficult. Just that my own ability/strength was not enough.

–Due to the off period, your strength is not really back yet?
Y: It is not because of the 2 months that I could not skate. I need to think more about how to practise, the goals for each day, I need to look at these things again from the start.

–Regarding jumps:
Y: On the whole, there was a tendency for the jumps to be stuck/blocked (t/n. no good flow after landing), so in that sense, I feel very frustrated. But this frustration is not the kind that is discouraged or depressed, rather it is frustration that is forward-looking, I really feel it inside. I want to use this frustration and these problems well in my practice.
(Note: he used the word “kuyashii” which is a feeling of regret and frustration. I chose to use the word “frustration” because I think it is closer to that meaning here.)

–On expressions:
Y: In the 1st half, especially the steps in the 1st half, I skated while feeling the music. This was something I have not been able to do in practice, so I feel there was an area that I made some improvement.

–Towards GP season, which areas do you want to adjust or work on?
Y: Everything. From one to not 10 but to 20 or 30 or 100. Everything will change. Like shedding not one but 10 layers of skin from this current condition, I want to work really hard in this one month.
(source)


FANARTS

Anyone can translate this cute fanart, please? https://twitter.com/runrun8383/status/782690052744761344

Fig.1
Brian: Look, stay in there for a while and get back in shape little by little. All right?
Yuzuru: (nods)

Fig.3
Yuzuru: (immediately climbing out of the box)
Brian: I’m watching you!

sweetwater
Could you please take a look at this one too?:) https://twitter.com/runrun8383/status/782470549251379200

OK, here’s my translation:

Title:
Good luck, new programs!
Count on us, old programs!

Yuzuru in Seimei costume: We’ve done quite a good job.
Yuzuru in Ballad No.1 costume: Every one called me a cool beauty.
Yuzuru in Let’s go crazy costume: I’m gonna break such public image.
Yuzuru in Hope and Legacy costume: Yeah, you’re gonna peel about 20 banana peels and become a purple banana. So crazy!

*Re Last line in purple, I'm not sure whether it's from Yuzuru in H&L costume or from the creator of the cartoon referring to Yuzuru in general.


BTW, Evegnia says her favorite program is The Phantom of the Opera by Yuzuru in an interview at CaOI

I saw this tweet, and It's from a CaOI booklet
https://twitter.com/ank0_04/status/782465398469824512

Could someone please translate this cute fanart? https://twitter.com/runrun8383/status/783238435309924353 What is that eagle- any anime character? Or maybe it's an owl or another bird?
There's a gale blowing.
Today, Hoplega(=Yuzuru?)'s job is to deliver happiness to everyone in this forest.
Against any fierce blow,
he never gives up.
Suddenly, he hears loud flaps of a bird.

OWL: There's no need to push yourself so intensely. Don't work hard alone.
Have a rest here(under the shelter of my wings) for a while.

My translation isn't so good. Someone can make it better:

Oh, I made a big mistake! Not 'Popureka' but 'Hopulega' is his name. Hopulega(hop-lega) is a typical way of contraction of 'Hope & Legacy', which we Japanese are likely to do. Last year, many Japanese fans call Chopin's Ballade No.1 ' Bara-ichi(1)'.


OTHERS

She really is; you can see how much he's learnt and progressed under her. She talks about broadening his range of movements here and I think remember her talking about hand/finger movements/position during the Phantom season, though I can't find the quote. But watching this, watching his progress between RJ2, Phantom, Semei, and now this, she really is doing it.


But I came to appreciate the style of this music, and now I can say only Yuzuru among bunch of today's figure skaters is capable of skating with this music.
His LP reminds me of world nature TV programs, which only shows the precious beauty of untouched nature sites on our planet, what we don't want to lose, like mountains, forests, rivers, waterfalls, under-sea...with no narrations but only orchestra sounds. (We Japanese often can watch those programs on NHK during midnight.)
In those TV programs, music always stands behind the scenes as a back ground music and never asserts itself, such as "Listen to me! I'm the main!" So viewers can confortablly concentrate on the nature's spectacles. That sort of moderateness enhances the solid beauty of the nature.
What I means is, when Yuzuru elaborates this LP, his artistic expressions will be shining like a lonely star wearing this music, without bothered by over-dramatic sounds. Then the LP will also become a different type of his masterpiece from SEIMEI.
As for colors, they're more vivid and shiny on the big TV screen than on my small iPad. Japan is a country of mountains and forests with a lot of rain/snow. We also have many rivers and lakes and are surrounded by the sea. So, blue, green and white (+brown) are familiar as nature's symbol colors to us. Now he's a nymph of Nature.

Watching his programs repeatedly, I must be caught by a romantic sentiment now. Please forgive my long poetic posT
 
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You know, Yuzuru's air position is often not mentioned and is underrated but it is actually so pretty and tight and beautiful. Seeing many men and ladies jump with air position that is all over the place makes me really appreciate his, thus I feel like mentioning this.

EDIT :
Actually, a lot of his other qualities as a skater are often underrated and not mentioned. People are often fixated by his quads and jumps (which I can't blame cause they are top of the field and are things of beauty)
Spins : From current active male skaters, there is not much who is actually a better spinner than him in my opinion. I can think of a few but his spin is definitely one of the best.
Transitions : King of transition in and out of elements tbh.
Skating skills : Honestly among current active males, aside Chan, can't think of a lot of guys who have better skating skills than him.
Steps : Though I can name a handful of skaters with perhaps better steps, his step is also top-class.

Not mentioning artistry cause it is subjective. But personally I think he has very good interpretation skills and is very artistic.

The word "control" comes to my mind. What i like about him is not his jumps, they are good and often his landing makes me all tingly, but i find myself concentrating on his feet and the overall position of his body in every element (which is why i don't mind the noodley arms that much :laugh: ) There is more to him than just the jumps and that is why i like him so much, I look forward to everything in his performances.
 
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The word "control" comes to my mind. What i like about him is not his jumps, they are good and often his landing makes me all tingly, but i find myself concentrating on his feet and the overall position of his body in every element (which is why i don't mind the noodley arms that much :laugh: )

I think his arm is no longer noodly and flaily like he was pre-sochi. The improvement is pretty visible for me, especially during his FS at SC ACI few weeks ago. His posture used to bother me A LOT, which is why I can't enjoy him fully until recently. But he has improved gradually after Sochi. At least to the point where it doesn't bother me anymore. He used to pretty visibly drop/slouch his shoulder before, but now it doesn't happen so often.
 
I think his arm is no longer noodly and flaily like he was pre-sochi. The improvement is pretty visible for me, especially during his FS at SC ACI few weeks ago. His posture used to bother me A LOT, which is why I can't enjoy him fully until recently. But he has improved gradually after Sochi. At least to the point where it doesn't bother me anymore. He used to pretty visibly drop/slouch his shoulder before, but now it doesn't happen so often.

I remember when i started dancing my teacher tried to correct my noodley arms telling me "Imagine you are trying to move your arm through very thick melted chocolate". It worked :laugh:
 
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INTERVIEWS & NEWS


There is this new article from nikkansports that includes interview with Hanyu after Autumn Classic translated by Angelica Yuzu at YHIFG Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1610393525875114/permalink/1782913468623118/

Some new things mentioned :
- He has lower back pain too besides sprained right foot and so he did practice 2 days, rest 1 day.
- He feels his problem is not about stamina (?); that if he jump more efficiently it will be well-managed. But he also said his way of breathing is inadequate.
- He said this time he poured attention on steps instead (This is very noticeable to me, his flow in the stsq is noticeably improved from last season)
- The journalist did not mention the score by Shoma and Javi, seems like he mentioned it himself. He said even though he felt ashamed, it is not negative and he wants to practice instead (This is so Yuzuru lol)

Overall from this interview he sounds very positive and motivated, while thoughtful and careful too. It is very good to hear ^^

A bit of Yuzuru on some french sports program... he shares space with football (as would be expected) and they talk about him like 20 seconds, but well it's something

http://www.lci.fr/sport/club26-arse...nfos-pour-se-la-raconter-au-cafe-2005665.html
Wow, I'm actually very surprised that they talked about it, even if it was just for a few seconds. The part of the show was about giving 3 information on sport in less than 2 minutes and the guy, of course, talked about the 4Lo, saying that it was the first one in history.
http://music-book.jp/video/news/news/125515/f

Today the press conference of team japan about GS series with matsuoka-san was held. Yuzu appeared on video message. He writes words meaning like just moving forward. He says like this.
"I know I will sometimes win and sometimes lose in competitions, but I want to make at least my mind keep moving forward. I see the state of mind will be important, so I choice such words. I shall never retreat."

At today's news clip, he says about his white costume. It's unusual to wear. The atmosphere of the costume, the atmosphere of music, he wanted to express those things feeling the sounds.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ac4ayhtotw/status/783785097602314241/video/1
I watched this news show this morning. Nobunari Oda was commentating on this news and was super supportive about Yuzu’s white costume. He said it looked really cool and it also looked pretty good on Yuzu, so he didn’t want Yuzu to change it if possible.
Hearing it together with Yuzu’s own comment I found it really hard to object…though I didn’t have much objection from the beginning.
I like the way Yuzu wants to express the feeling of the music through his skate. Hope his training goes well.


NISHIKAWA & CMs

Is this a new video with Yuzu and his "& free" sponsor? http://andfree.jp/movie/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtgHquWs7WA&feature=youtu.be What is he talking about in this one?



PHOTOS, VIDEOS, CLIPS & GIFs


http://www.newscom.com/nc/displayOp...eo=Y&searchText=N&searchGraphics=Y&searchkey=[]&sort=d&searchSet=no&searchSetName=&searchHZ=Y&searchVT=Y&rm=&rf=&daterng=&searchtype=newsearch

So the cameraman closed up on Yuzuru's skin: https://vine.co/v/56J1YV6jwFZ

Noto-san offers his photos to sportiva. Love his photos.

https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/clm/othersports/figure/

This is the first time I saw this video from backstage Worlds 2015

Brian and Yuzuru is so cute especially that laugh at the end hahaha

https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/smart/contents/photo/2016/10/05/5/
Photo gallery by noto-san
Autumn classic, practice session.

Further to the above photo gallery of practice session by noto-san, the photos of short program are uploaded! Can't wait ones of free program!

https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/smart/contents/photo/2016/10/06/sp/

Hey I found this video by chance. It's the same with the one I watched from DM, just not HD quality. It has the K&C moment I mentioned in my last comment. https://youtu.be/6a9si1p3Bhk

I'm enjoying my coffee and going through Yuzuru's programs, to find the 2012 LP, as I like going back to that one and then suddenly there's this

Baby Yuzuru from 2004

I've completely forgotten about it. 2010 was the first time he popped up for me when BESP did that JW transmission (and it's really great now in retrospect to hear what the uncles thought of him). Got to love when even these old ones are safely there for us years later.



TRANSLATION
Could someone please translate the comment Misha wrote on weibo in Chinese for the forth video? It's where they talk near the boards. Fun talk it seems. Thank you!

The two gentlemen were saying "you first." "no, you first." to each other back and forth.
No, sorry really, not this one. The 4th one, Yuzu plays with his costume there too. But thank you anyway.

Oh, that one.
No problem.

~~~~~
M: Please autograph for me.
Y: No.
M: Please. Here on my sleeve.
Y: No. How about you autograph on my collar.
M: With a lipstick, sure.

Someone might have already linked, but anyway,

Angelic Yuzuru translated the interview of Yuzuru with Ms. Kato the other day.

I was impressed she translated 快感(かいかん) kaikan into "thrill."
Today, I've got another knowledge ;)

http://yuzusorbet.tumblr.com/post/151461678962/heros-special-on-mr-sunday-great-programme-so

To an auntie like me, kaikan reminds me of the famous scene of the film ”Sailor Suit and Machine Gun (セーラー服と機関銃 Sērā-fuku to kikanjū)

1981 & 2016 versions: You'll hear the heroine murmurs at the last being entranced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJszYxe8YwY


FANARTS

It all makes sense to me. Thank you!
You know, I can't help it but the previous art came into my mind immediately were Brian tells him to have a good rest and then gain powers step by step, goes away and Yuzu is like "okay, that was a very good 5 minutes rest, I need to work on my 4Lo to gain consistency now" and climbs out from the box hearing "I can see you!" from Brian.
There's another cute art by the way. Seems like everybody is inspired by his free skate costume to create those cute drawings.

Look at this cuteness (fanart): https://twitter.com/runrun8383/status/783601097814323200 Could someone translate the words, please?
"Thank you, Owl. But I'm all right," he said and smiled.
"It's very hard to walk against the wind, but I'm enjoying that. 'cause I love to see everyone's face filled with joy.
And...well, I got a shiny gold medal and gerberas"

it's Hoplega's reply to Owl's suggestion
I've used Yuzu for my painting drill...again. http://fav.me/dakdsro

http://fav.me/daki4jc More Yuzu in action paintings. This time, in his Hope and Legacy costume.
I find it problematic to paint his SP costume.
And as for my favorite CM, I think the Lotte chocolate series with the skating 360 degrees is the best.


OTHERS
According to the tweet
Q : What do you think about his Let’s Go Crazy costume? (There were 1640 votes.)


OK as it is 22%

Needs to change the design or the color of the pants 44%


Needs to add something around the waistline 10%

Etcetera (addition of the frills etc…) 24%

Sporty mag has some nice words about Yuzuru at Autumn Classic: https://sportymags.wordpress.com/2016/10/04/yuzuru-hanyu-autumn-classic-2016/

She thinks the white pants is fine.

For anybody else who can't stop listening to the Hope & Legacy music (like me) I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnDv873q5zs has the best mix I've found so far
 
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... "Imagine you are trying to move your arm through very thick melted chocolate". It worked :laugh:
Don't tell him that. He'll try to eat himself :biggrin: Or lick himself. That would probably be even more awkward......
:slink:
forget I said anything. I'll go back to not being here now.
 
Don't tell him that. He'll try to eat himself :biggrin: Or lick himself. That would probably be even more awkward......
:slink:
forget I said anything. I'll go back to not being here now.
Oh no, we don't want that!! But since he would be on the ice, the chocolate would probably harden. He would have to bite himself.
can i get a chocolate covered-Yuzu please?
 
I remember when i started dancing my teacher tried to correct my noodley arms telling me "Imagine you are trying to move your arm through very thick melted chocolate". It worked :laugh:

Haha, how interesting! Actually arm movement vary depend on the type of the dance as well. Jazz, hip-hop, ballet, latin, etc have different character in arm movement but in figure skating seems like the referred arm movement is mostly balletic or lyrical.

I know sometimes there are hip-hop and pilates classes in TCC. I wonder if they ever have classes of other type of dances to expand the repertoire of the skaters. :biggrin:
I want to see Yuzuru do latin dances it would be interesting, haha.
 
Haha, how interesting! Actually arm movement vary depend on the type of the dance as well. Jazz, hip-hop, ballet, latin, etc have different character in arm movement but in figure skating seems like the referred arm movement is mostly balletic or lyrical.

I know sometimes there are hip-hop and pilates classes in TCC. I wonder if they ever have classes of other type of dances to expand the repertoire of the skaters. :biggrin:
I want to see Yuzuru do latin dances it would be interesting, haha.

Oh god no, i don't like latin dances! They are way too cheesy, i honestly can't stand watching them :laugh:
In my case it was to correct my noodley arms when doing snake arms for bellydance :P but the hand position we use is derived from ballet. My teacher is a ballet dancer and she uses the melted chocolate technique in ballet and bellydance so the movements look controlled instead of just throwing your arms in the air :D Now that i think about it we do use a lot of ballet terminology too :laugh:
 
Oh god no, i don't like latin dances! They are way too cheesy, i honestly can't stand watching them :laugh:
In my case it was to correct my noodley arms when doing snake arms for bellydance :P but the hand position we use is derived from ballet. My teacher is a ballet dancer and she uses the melted chocolate technique in ballet and bellydance so the movements look controlled instead of just throwing your arms in the air :D Now that i think about it we do use a lot of ballet terminology too :laugh:
I am not into ballet at all but many of my friends are ballet fans, they're kind of sharing all ballet images on my newfeed, one of them is a ballet teacher and they all tell me: almost none of the skaters is balletic at all. Certainly they don't see any of the current top men as balletic, even ladies. Many of them practice ballet to train their posture, yes. But It's more correct to say that they practice to have ok or acceptable upper body movements.
Somehow many fans just take the word "balletic" for granted. lol our dear skaters are not balletic as the fans say. As long as their upper body movements are in the acceptable zone it's a huge effort.
 
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I am not into ballet at all but many of my friends are ballet fans, they're kind of sharing all ballet images on my newfeed, one of them is a ballet teacher and they all tell me: almost none of the skaters is balletic at all. Certainly they don't see any of the current top men as balletic, even ladies. Many of them practice ballet to train their posture, yes. But It's more correct to say that they practice to have ok or acceptable upper body movements.
Somehow many fans just take the word "balletic" for granted. lol our dear skaters are not balletic as the fans say. As long as their upper body movements are in the acceptable zone it's a huge effort.

Honestly there is rarely any skater that is truly balletic because I doubt truly balletic posture can be attainable in skating? Their back is actually pretty arched in ballet (same can be said in latin ballroom dances) and not close to straight like most skater is? It is actually pretty tiring to maintain that posture. Actually if you ask any jazz dancer I bet they will say >90% jazz program is nothing like jazz at all. :laugh:

Oh god no, i don't like latin dances! They are way too cheesy, i honestly can't stand watching them :laugh:
In my case it was to correct my noodley arms when doing snake arms for bellydance :P but the hand position we use is derived from ballet. My teacher is a ballet dancer and she uses the melted chocolate technique in ballet and bellydance so the movements look controlled instead of just throwing your arms in the air :D Now that i think about it we do use a lot of ballet terminology too :laugh:

There are several type of latin dances and actually the good ones are really good and not cheesy. In competitive latin dances, samba, cha-cha, rumba, paso doble and jive is actually grouped together but their character is very between one and the others. :biggrin:
 
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I am not into ballet at all but many of my friends are ballet fans, they're kind of sharing all ballet images on my newfeed, one of them is a ballet teacher and they all tell me: almost none of the skaters is balletic at all. Certainly they don't see any of the current top men as balletic, even ladies. Many of them practice ballet to train their posture, yes. But It's more correct to say that they practice to have ok or acceptable upper body movements.
Somehow many fans just take the word "balletic" for granted. lol our dear skaters are not balletic as the fans say. As long as their upper body movements are in the acceptable zone it's a huge effort.

IIRC, Yuzu said that he practiced ballet for like a month, right? And i think it was something relatively recent. (now that i would like to see! Yuzu doing ballet... oh boy)
 
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