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Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season

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mcq said:
1. Yeah, no idea if it is still bothering him or not, but at least up until post-GPF it is still bothering him.
2. I actually agree with him 100%. I know some people said 3A is overrated, especially when you can exchange it with quads nowadays. It only matters in juniors because you can't quad in SP. However, it is literally a jump you cannot escape because it is a required jump in both SP and LP. You can't afford to botch this :palmf:
3. There is that, but at the same time I think he probably is looking at his competitors (and how judges marked them) too. They are delivering 4-5 quads now and (kind of) actually landing them. Also, he seems to be the type who don't want to depend on other people's mistake for him to win. I guess he is considering the advantages and disadvantages of it. He probably initially thought that 4 would be enough for oly, as long as he is clean and delivering it with good quality. But at 4CC I can sense he began to question that.
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3. Agreed. I mean one very good thing about him is he's a good balance of his own thoughtful ideals but also the realities of the field. When 4-5 quads bring a bump in PCS, he has to be fairly realistic. I do see how in 4CC he's reevaluating in his answers. Whatever he does, it's the maximum of what he believes he can accomplish, so an interesting thing for me to observe is if he'll adjust the complexity of his programs in order to accommodate more quads. If that happens though, I'll have to say I look forward to at least a moderate swing away from the quad chase post-Olympics.
 
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gladiolusc said:
YESSSS. awesome choice >:D
101 memeable expressions of Yuzuru.

*says the person who doesn't even have a yuzu face*
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but your ava is so cute. Yuzu with Pooh head on with pistol pose to add. :D

I am still a long way from YFAC but may be I should choose the photo in advance to motivate myself.
 
Yuaz said:
Yeah xD but he still looks handsome with that expression :luv17:
I wanna see, how long you will keep that Pooh face Ava :laugh:

/whisper : don't you missed yuzu face Ava?
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I had Yuzu face for maybe..... 3 days? Before that I had THE MOST GLORIOUS YUZU LEGS from notte stellata. Beauteous.
 
Just streamed Spirit of Athletes on NHK. It basically reviews this season for him and they focus on the damned 4L lmao. They didn't really highlight the awesomeness YOLO3A and the whole layout change, I guess (I'm sorry, my Japanese is limited). Nathan ofc is presented as his rival now and they show the press conference after 4CC where he said he'd try to do 5 quads per program someday. I hope I could catch Brian's comments, but they dub it so I couldn't hear it :(

Ugh I missed first 10 minutes where the fun was :'(
 
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jinabee said:
Yuzu's enthusiasm for his 3a matches my enthusiasm for his 3a hahaha I'm glad he's reluctant to cut down on them, they are always great to see.

I respect how he doesn't seem to want to add new jumps in until he can land them somewhat consistantly with steps so they have flow in the choreography, I hope the age of quads doesn't make him rush into adding 4lz before he thinks it's ready...
I mean, I still don't think he needs to add anything for worlds to potentially win gold, even if the crazy kids with 5 quads skate clean, because Yuzu clean will edge them out in GOE and PCS, but for the olympics I think it's natural he'd want to add another quad to meet the competition, and I kind of assume he was already sorta preparing for that possibility.
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Didn't he have a problem landing 3Lz before? It just like his nemesis before nhk and gpf 2015..??.. And now 4S3T... :slink:
 
gladiolusc said:
3. Agreed. I mean one very good thing about him is he's a good balance of his own thoughtful ideals but also the realities of the field. When 4-5 quads bring a bump in PCS, he has to be fairly realistic. I do see how in 4CC he's reevaluating in his answers. Whatever he does, it's the maximum of what he believes he can accomplish, so an interesting thing for me to observe is if he'll adjust the complexity of his programs in order to accommodate more quads. If that happens though, I'll have to say I look forward to at least a moderate swing away from the quad chase post-Olympics.
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Exactly! He has always been straightforward and honest about his thoughts and goals. So when he said he didn't know what jumps he is going to be doing at the Olympics, I believe him 100%. Putting myself in his shoes, looking at his past-self and how competitive he is, he probably is calculating his own capabilities and limits with the benefit and loss of doing harder layouts. So many question mark.
Like :
Would he be able to adjust on time by Olympics if he upgrade again?
Would it be better to just stick to the current layout and focusing on GOE + being clean 100% as often as possible, with the risk of having his competitors with higher BV catching up on his PCS + GOE (and skate clean) by the time of the olympics?
He also has to make sure that he is relatively healthy and injury-free. How much his body can take if he was to grind another quad?
If adding another one with transition is too difficult, would he bargain his skating ideals for a chance to get higher success rate? etc etc

So many questions lol. I am sure he is still deliberating by now and all of how it will play out is going to be highly dependent on how he (and his competitors) will do at worlds (and maybe WTT too).
 
I've just watched "Spirit of the Athletes" :love:

It was very rich in content !!

Clear version of Koi Dance!!

I love you NHK :yahoo:

I hope someone will upload it soon.
 
shiroKJ said:
Here are some clips from the "Spirit of an athlete" doc.

Lmaooooo. The Love dance in a clear angle :gclap:

https://mobile.twitter.com/W_YZR/status/840219352120999936
https://mobile.twitter.com/W_YZR/status/840221196599795712
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An aside, was it the Prof who said it earlier? It truly is a bountiful day in our fan fest :D :D So much to read and watch :D THANK YOU ALL~

Thanks shiro for sharing the SA clips! I'm so looking forward to the whole show now. I'm sure Yzriko will have it up soon. I might even forgive about the lack of resolution to the photo that started 15 pages of blank posts XD Boy, is he animated... I like the word you used, mcq, so extra.

Also a Hanyu long interview from 4CC coming out on 3-11, Kozuka special guest on the program - I wonder if he'll comment on 4CC and mention Yuzu, or if it's more about his return to skating (as a teacher)
 
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mcq said:
Would it be better to just stick to the current layout and focusing on GOE + being clean 100% as often as possible, with the risk of having his competitors with higher BV catching up on his PCS + GOE (and skate clean) by the time of the olympics?
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The problem being that his younger competitors already have higher BVs than he does and can continue to increase those BVs to the point whatever PCS/GOE advantage he might have might not be enough, not when there's constant debate right now in this very forum about how PCS and TES go hand in hand and that GOEs aren't being given out as correctly as they should. So for next season, being 10+ points behind in BV (or more, for Javi and Patrick, if they don't upgrade either), may just be too much in the end.
 
Omg too amazing things at once ! I can't wait to be able to watch spirit of the athletes.

as for the interview the Mighty Gladiodusc translated, what a great read ! But i had a strange effect... I was kinda serene before reading it, but after I've begun stressing about Worlds ! I won't make it alive to the end of the month...

Also, the part about the organisation in Marseille... :palmf:
I feel so ashamed. What was the french federation thinking ? :(
One part of me dreams that Yuzu does TdF next season, but the other part think it's going to be such a mess that he'd better compete as far from France as possible XD.
In any case, it's very unlikely.
Let me cry for a bit
My life is a tragedy
I'll never see Yuzuru skate live
O world, why are you so cruel ?
 
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xeyra said:
The problem being that his younger competitors already have higher BVs than he does and can continue to increase those BVs to the point whatever PCS/GOE advantage he might have might not be enough, not when there's constant debate right now in this very forum about how PCS and TES go hand in hand and that GOEs aren't being given out as correctly as they should. So for next season, being 10+ points behind in BV (or more, for Javi and Patrick, if they don't upgrade either), may just be too much in the end.
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We all know this, but at the same time the younger competitors had more time stabilizing their quads, they have done that since last season, arguably. It was not the case with Yuzu, he is still adjusting his 4Lo and still has problem with 2nd half 4S3T. Upgrading layout means nothing if you can't deliver it, much like Chiddy or Boyang's case. If anything, splatting consistently would eventually hurt your reputation (Yuzuru of all people would know this) and would hurt your PCS in the long run (look at Mao). I guess that is why he is still reluctant and contemplating the risk and reward.
There is also injury-risk too. Any layout means nothing if you are injured by the time of the olympics. So many things to consider, actually. Whatever he would eventually choose, I hope he would have no regrets.
 
xeyra said:
The problem being that his younger competitors already have higher BVs than he does and can continue to increase those BVs to the point whatever PCS/GOE advantage he might have might not be enough, not when there's constant debate right now in this very forum about how PCS and TES go hand in hand and that GOEs aren't being given out as correctly as they should. So for next season, being 10+ points behind in BV (or more, for Javi and Patrick, if they don't upgrade either), may just be too much in the end.
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Still can't believe one of the judge give yuzu 0 GOE for YOLO 3A :confused2:
 
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