Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season
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I am actually more interested in seeing his 4Lz rather than 4A, 4lo4 or whatever shenanigans he did there. Firstly, if it is in a good shape and quality, it could actually be put in a program. When I first saw his 4Lo in a program during the open practice, it was already good quality and yet he still struggle with it early season. His galas 4Lo from the season before was not yet the quality of his 4Lo at OP so it is nice to see the improvement. 4L zis a jump I have never seen from him and yet it will likely be in his new program, I need the footage more than ever
Ya this is what makes me skeptical. It's a big difference between practice and putting a jump in a program and we haven't even seen any in practice yet.
And 4Lo combo. And maybe a quad-quad combo :reye:- Joined
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I am not sure if I want to see the 4A :hopelessness: Don't injure yourself, Yuzu, please. 
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I am not sure if I want to see the 4A :hopelessness: Don't injure yourself, Yuzu, please.
I want to see it but... I'd like it if he didn't try anything with it this season...
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Yes, I'd like to see it post 2017/2018 season if he is in top form and feels that it wouldn't injure him. But it's just too risky...
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OTOH, I can imagine him not wanting to reveal it until it is nearly perfected because others are doing it so well. But maybe I'm wrong, because he hasn't shown that type of pride so far.
Tbh, I'm not asking for anything more from him than I've already seen, except for fresh inspiring programs, but can you imagine if he gets this jump? Game over for his rivals.
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I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED to see that 4A. There must be footage, you can't have someone trying for a 4A and NOT record it. Can someone please take mercy and release the footage.Skating Gods. I want to believe in the 4A, I really really really want to.
I'm still upset that Yuzuru has apparently done 4S-Lo-4S in run-throughs and we haven't seen one clean yet.
Sorry, just a lot of feelings
I feel you! Especially about the 4A - it's not a question about competition ready or not, but how skeptical are a lot of people still if that thing is even possible? I need to see it when Yuzu defies the laws of physics again
Since Meoima posted that Morozombie link, I feel like a need to defend him/her a bit: he/she absolutely adored Yuzu already last season again, and his Chopin SP right from it's debut. Don't be meaner than necessary :roll5:
And thank you for posting it Meoima - on that picture, in the upper right part, I can see my Pooh behind Yuzu! I mean, he's not even looking at it or anything, but I might just have screamed into my pillow seeing them on the same picture!
Geez, I'm so done, I'm sorry. I will see myself out now...
As for all the members who want to go to a live competition someday: I hope you will all manage to do that. It is worth every penny, in general and especially for Yuzu. So may you all win in the lottery or get filthy rich boyfriends/girlfriends and be able to go to all the competitions you want!
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Not necessarily, depending on what the judges are doing
You also have to remember that Nathan apparently trains the 4Lo and that Shoma seems to now be thinking about a 4Lz (
), so I'd rather think Yuzu might even need the 4Lz to not get the 'game over' himself.
+1 I think the same.
I really think if he would reveal it it would be in a competition so the fastest would be during open practice/official practice before the program.
But most skating fans (even not Yuzuru fan) all have act like it would definitely be in his layout next season. And judging from his interview I get this impression that he is really going to add it? So if he end up not adding it, I think that means the success rate is really not good.
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I am actually more interested in seeing his 4Lz rather than 4A, 4lo4 or whatever shenanigans he did there. Firstly, if it is in a good shape and quality, it could actually be put in a program. When I first saw his 4Lo in a program during the open practice, it was already good quality and yet he still struggle with it early season. His galas 4Lo from the season before was not yet the quality of his 4Lo at OP so it is nice to see the improvement. 4L zis a jump I have never seen from him and yet it will likely be in his new program, I need the footage more than ever
I'm not so worried about 4Lz not making an early appearance like 4Lo... I imagine 4Lo needed more mileage on different type ice and rinks for him to stabilize it. 4Lz being a toe jump should be a quicker process? Of course I would love to see footage, any footage ^_^
Not necessarily, depending on what the judges are doing
You also have to remember that Nathan apparently trains the 4Lo and that Shoma seems to now be thinking about a 4Lz (
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Not necessarily, depending on what the judges are doing
You also have to remember that Nathan apparently trains the 4Lo and that Shoma seems to now be thinking about a 4Lz (
Well, I'd be frightened if I were them. No matter what the judges do, I thought the PCS gap was huge between him and Nathan/Boyang, and big between him and Shoma. I'm a Yuzu uber, after all. I trust him to improve his tech more than I trust them to improve their second mark. Again, the judges will do what the judges will do, but we have our own standards. Who can improve the most? It's an exciting time. And a dangerous one.
Just like Brian learned to trust Yuzu about the 4Loop, I think Yuzu is trusting Brian about avoiding injury. Brian seems fairly certain not everyone will make it to the Olys in one piece at this rate. To me, Boyang seems more stable, and Nathan and Shoma seem a bit more reckless. Javier and Patrick are grownups, and I'm pretty sure they are using their maturity to make wise decisions. Maybe the veterans will be the spoilers instead of the young guns.
I have never seen him land this jump so I can't comment yet on how he will do
But he has practiced it since 2014 and if Max info is right, 60% is far from bad. That one video of his attempt is also not bad cause he got it rotated.
On another note, there are several people he can refer to for 4Lz (Boyang, Nathan, Vincent, Koyada etc to name a few). But nobody really does 4Lo before him (Krasnozhon's was most of the time UR). So for TCC and Yuzu it is really a trial and error game for 4Lo since they are trying to figure out how to do them. While 4Lz, many people has landed it, even junior skaters, thus I think 4Lz would be easier to study and analyze for him. At least there is that.
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The PCS gap between Yuzu & Shoma in the LP was around 2.6 points. How is that big? And Nathan was way further behind but he also fell twice. Look at how his PCS went up during this season - I don't expect them to stagnate no matter what he does.
I agree that Boyang looks by far the most stable (Have you heard that kid talk in interviews? About how he's very conscious about limiting his time with jumps per session/day to avoid injury above all else? He's such a smart kid), but I doubt anybody will break down until next year. Tbh though, I have my reasons for thinking it will be Boyang in 2022 and not Nathan or Shoma.
@gladi Exactly. "4"Flutz.
Edit: I don't think Yuzu studies any 4Lz except for Boyangs. He isn't shy about how much he loves that jump! Even his taste is flawless
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I have never seen him land this jump so I can't comment yet on how he will do
But he has practiced it since 2014 and if Max info is right, 60% is far from bad. That one video of his attempt is also not bad cause he got it rotated.
On another note, there are several people he can refer to for 4Lz (Boyang, Nathan, Vincent, Koyada etc to name a few). But nobody really does 4Lo before him (Krasnozhon's was most of the time UR). So for TCC and Yuzu it is really a trial and error game for 4Lo since they are trying to figure out how to do them. While 4Lz, many people has landed it, even junior skaters, thus I think 4Lz would be easier to study and analyze for him. At least there is that.
Yes we know he loves Boyangman's jumps, and I wouldn't be surprised he's been studying his 4Lz like a madman in order to perfect his own
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Yes we know he loves Boyangman's jumps, and I wouldn't be surprised he's been studying his 4Lz like a madman in order to perfect his own
Tru. But since it is Yuzuru he will want to do his 4Lz out of immediate steps so good luck with that lol. But then again if he can land a 4S from a standstill I think 4Lz, which is toepick assisted, out of steps, is not really that :hopelessness:
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OMG I'm feeling claustrophobic just looking at this.
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