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Gabriella Papadakis & Guillaume Cizeron

Anyasnake said:
Something is reaaaally bugging me haha.

If there is any American and/or Canadian here, please enlighten me : when the media at home (USA or Canada) were talking about let's say Davis/White and Virtue/Moir, IF they didn't win (D/W in 2012 and V/M in Sochi for example), how would the press react ? Because all I saw was that the media really encourage your athletes, not rubbing their loss in their faces all the time. IIRC, when V/M came 2nd in Sochi, they were in a media marathon for weeks (normal after the Olympics) and all I saw were words of encouragement, motivation, emphasizing how well they skated instead of talking about the silver etc, and even now, they say something like "they are back for gold" but they don't really talk about Sochi that much because everybody moved on.

All I see in the French press article is "they lost at worlds", not even "they came second" or whatever. It's okay a couple of times but it was 6 months ago. French press really needs sometimes to take the negativity away (and I'm french).

I must admit, I really admire USA and CDN's way of putting their athletes into a good light. :agree:
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I think in general that's most or less true about North American (especially Canadian) coverage, at least for Olympic sports rather than the major sports leagues. Though with V/M in Sochi there were a couple of other factors. There was a lot of coverage at the time of rumours published by some international news site (maybe it was French actually) about there being a deal between the US and Russian feds to help Russia get gold in the team event and D/W to win in dance (not saying I believe this of course), so the Canadian public had the sense that they hadn't had a fair chance. And people who only watch every four years still saw them as those sweet kids who'd won gold at home, so they liked them already.

But in general in Canada, hockey and curling excepted, we generally don't have that gold is everything attitude. We tend to celebrate all medallists and other athletes with good showings, so the Canadian press/public would mostly see it as winning silver, not losing gold.

I remember an interview soon after Sochi where the interviewer said it's so weird to see figure skaters apologize to Canada when they've worked so hard and don't owe us anything and Tessa responding that that was nice to hear, because they did feel like it was a disappointment and they let people down. She said they thought people might be upset with them that they didn't defend their title, but that everyone had been super supportive.

Anyways, back on the topic of P/C, it's too bad if the coverage is overly negative. They did really well at Worlds.
 
I do not find the various articles (or reports) negative ... After the world championships, all the articles or reports talked about their very beautiful performances. Now they just say they lost their title (it's true) and they will use their past "mistakes" to win the Olympic Games and to be even stronger.
 
maya1985 said:
I do not find the various articles (or reports) negative ... After the world championships, all the articles or reports talked about their very beautiful performances. Now they just say they lost their title (it's true) and they will use their past "mistakes" to win the Olympic Games and to be even stronger.
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It's just a conversation I had with someone at my school between Positive and negative Journalism : in France if someone came 2nd you say "they lost", and if it's in the US it's "they managed to get the silver medal". Since I'm French t's not surprising and I'm very very used to it, but it's becoming a bit repetitive. It's not just about figure skating actually, it's about a lot of sports. I guess I just prefer the North American way to push their athletes :biggrin:
 
Anyasnake said:
Something is reaaaally bugging me haha.

If there is any American and/or Canadian here, please enlighten me : when the media at home (USA or Canada) were talking about let's say Davis/White and Virtue/Moir, IF they didn't win (D/W in 2012 and V/M in Sochi for example), how would the press react ? Because all I saw was that the media really encourage your athletes, not rubbing their loss in their faces all the time. IIRC, when V/M came 2nd in Sochi, they were in a media marathon for weeks (normal after the Olympics) and all I saw were words of encouragement, motivation, emphasizing how well they skated instead of talking about the silver etc, and even now, they say something like "they are back for gold" but they don't really talk about Sochi that much because everybody moved on.

All I see in the French press article is "they lost at worlds", not even "they came second" or whatever. It's okay a couple of times but it was 6 months ago. French press really needs sometimes to take the negativity away (and I'm french).

I must admit, I really admire USA and CDN's way of putting their athletes into a good light. :agree:
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SnowWhite answered really well, but I'd just add that as a Canadian myself, we definitely tend to celebrate a medal of any colour, and we do try and spin things in a positive light. Also, having done a semester abroad in France during university, I will say that one thing I noticed about French people is they don't sugar coat things. They are very straight forward.

Canadians are generally a more friendly bunch, while French people are more reserved. It definitely took me a while to adjust. It's not rudeness at all, though - just a cultural difference that is actually quite fascinating. Obviously this is a very broad generalisation, but it doesn't surprise me the tact in which French media approach how they report/tell a news story.
 
MelDee said:
I just hope that someone will put it up on youtube asap, no way I'm paying 9 € for the stream.
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The price is ridiculous. On the bright side, I think there's a good chance it'll be on youtube quite soon, maybe even right after the competition. Specially the SD. A lot of people is eager to see that dance. ;)
 
Anna189 said:
The price is ridiculous. On the bright side, I think there's a good chance it'll be on youtube quite soon, maybe even right after the competition. Specially the SD. A lot of people is eager to see that dance. ;)
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Yup, that's exactly why I think it'll make its way on youtube somehow :) It really is ridiculous, the other challengers (except for the US Classic) were free of charge too, even last year I believe that Finlandia was streaming for free. I get that they have the best lineup of all the challenger competitions, but this price is too high imo. In case there were no videos of the SD even after this weekend, good for Gaby and Guillaume, no video from the Masters made it on youtube, and if the same happened with Finlandia now, it'd give them even more time to grow the SD. Though I doubt that they'll get away with it again :laugh:
 
Camille1409 said:
I actually thought that it's the first time they have BOTH a positive and right discussion about P/C and their programs.
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Same here, that was probably the first time that Dave didn't have his usual snarky remarks. Still, I wouldn't take his opinions very seriously, because I think he's waiting to see which way the political winds are blowing and then he'll be forming his opinions accordingly. Jonathan, on the other hand, was fully in his P/C fan mode, and made valid points.
 
MelDee said:
Yup, that's exactly why I think it'll make its way on youtube somehow :) It really is ridiculous, the other challengers (except for the US Classic) were free of charge too, even last year I believe that Finlandia was streaming for free. I get that they have the best lineup of all the challenger competitions, but this price is too high imo. In case there were no videos of the SD even after this weekend, good for Gaby and Guillaume, no video from the Masters made it on youtube, and if the same happened with Finlandia now, it'd give them even more time to grow the SD. Though I doubt that they'll get away with it again :laugh:
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I think P/C have lots of fans, but no one loves them enough to pay 9 euros for a stream. :laugh: Hopefully we'll get a fancam.
 
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