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Tessa Virtue & Scott Moir
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For quick reference:
2017 SCI SD
2017 SCI FD
The SD requires no comment. The FD is SO MUCH BETTER since ACI. The costumes are better, even though I liked the old ones. Favorite moments of the FD after one viewing: End of twizzles on "Roxanne;" Lift before the music change; Tessa gliding out of the lift as the music changes. The change feels so much smoother than at ACI. There were a couple times I thought they got too close to the boards in the FD. It is also so helpful to have video from an official camera. Overall, a great first GP. CONGRATS, TESSA AND SCOTT!!! 
2017 SCI SD
2017 SCI FD
The SD requires no comment. The FD is SO MUCH BETTER since ACI. The costumes are better, even though I liked the old ones. Favorite moments of the FD after one viewing: End of twizzles on "Roxanne;" Lift before the music change; Tessa gliding out of the lift as the music changes. The change feels so much smoother than at ACI. There were a couple times I thought they got too close to the boards in the FD. It is also so helpful to have video from an official camera. Overall, a great first GP. CONGRATS, TESSA AND SCOTT!!! i was questioning the FD before but after seeing it at Skate Canada now i'm all for it. It's getting better and better to the point where it's very close to being perfect. They got one level 3 and if thats corrected the british announcers say it will break the world record and both of Tessa's dresses were lit...omg so beautiful i must say. They just have that star power. Perfection. wow.
One thing about the FD:
The FD ending sounds very different in arena compare to it on TV. In arena the last note was very strong with nice bass line and I don't think that really showed on the livestream. I thought they should change the music before I saw them live, but it was actually very good.
The FD ending sounds very different in arena compare to it on TV. In arena the last note was very strong with nice bass line and I don't think that really showed on the livestream. I thought they should change the music before I saw them live, but it was actually very good.
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That's very interesting... It's not unusual that things work differently live than through TV sometimes. I hope they manage to make some adjustments so that it can be fully appreciated on video as well
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I love how the twizzles end right on the "Roxanne!" It's a real wow moment, something that stands out and you remember afterwords. And all three lifts work so well with the program. The first one really sets the tone at the beginning, the second one looks amazing and the exit out of it is a wonderful transition with the music to the next part of the program. And the third one is such a gorgeous image. And the costumes were perfect. I've watched it over and over already. I really liked Latch, but this is already stronger for me. It works so well for them and of course it's fantastic that they have material they feel so strongly about.
It's funny, I wasn't that familiar with the Moulin Rouge music before and when there were first rumours that they'd be skating to it, I listened to the soundtrack and thought how could anyone skate to Roxanne with lyrics, it sounded so rough and ugly. But watching them skate to it, not only does it work, but they've made me like the music.
And their SD is fire. So great.
It's funny, I wasn't that familiar with the Moulin Rouge music before and when there were first rumours that they'd be skating to it, I listened to the soundtrack and thought how could anyone skate to Roxanne with lyrics, it sounded so rough and ugly. But watching them skate to it, not only does it work, but they've made me like the music.
And their SD is fire. So great.
i agree......all 3 lifts are exceptional. The twizzles is a huge highlight as is the entire program....both programs are stupendous they out did themselves! Even the english commentators said how they don't see anyone challenging them this year but we will see there r politics in ice dancing too so u never know all i know is WOW i was floored these 2 programs i thought it would be very hard to come up with a short dance at the level of last year's Prince but the did and i love their FD more than last years. Good job!
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I feel like at SC the strength of their conviction/dedication to this very idea was finally matched by the impact of performance. The simple, yet great thing is - if anyone's willing to step out of personal prejudice towards the music, theme or the team of them in general for a moment - that they seemed to put an entire new quality and dimension to 'Moulin Rouge' as a competitive program in figure skating; what I appreciate the most probably that 'the push' done by them in execution/technical area translated so well, so soundly into emotion, expression and vibrancy of the whole picture presented. I still think that this is the riskiest choice of them all, especially putting the stress onto it was their personal one - but somehow they are able to turn tables around, along with the perception of the music, lyrics, character, because for me they are not simply taking the music for granted, but aiming to re-define it on their own terms. It's THEY before the music and the package, it's not like the music chose them.
At SC, the concept and idea came into life for me - they not only gave the music much-needed dimension, but the movement got so much intricate and conscious, going in synch with the emotion they wanted to give out. I think that combining 'Tango el Roxanne' and 'Come what may' makes finally sense after such masterful performance, in more sense than one - firstly (for visual/execution-wise standpoint): it shows the range of movement, mixing hard and soft, sharp and flow-y, but all done with so much impact/strength, secondly (taking it more from conceptual standpoint): meshing these themes seems to highlight their strength both individually and as a team in my opinion; while first part in more of a highlight of Tessa's 'dominance' in expression, second one is more about Scott's being a solid rock for her and for this partnership. I think it takes a real, honest maturity in their relationship, made by years of being together and going through different times, to make a room in a competitive program for one another separately, yet still going in this as one. In general, 'Moulin Rouge' seem to be a personal story, a celebration of the moment/performance with themselves and the audience using the music, the boldness of it as a frame/canvas to put on their skill, connection, feel of the music; it makes up into something looking like a stage play with all its splendour, but with their real emotion carried through it.
From purely technical standpoint, I agree about twizzles - it creates a momentum, an exclamation point, drawing attention; I love also re-work put in transitions before spin and last lift. Overall, the dance is looking much more integrated, polished and done with purpose. Agree also about lifts - they are equally controversial like sole 'Moulin Rouge' choice, but who cares if they are going so well with the flow of the program and the music; whatever to be said about them ('vulgar', 'cheap', 'gimmicky', 'repeated'), there's no point in denying that they are EFFECTIVE for that particular program and doing their job of looking fabulous and scoring properly.
About SD - WOW, just wow...The concept/idea are already so ready, so polished and effective it's not even funny. Second year in a row, they are serving quite an unique take/point of view on the SD rhythms in terms out vibe and outlook, yet making it successful and fully accessible. Seeing some opinions about this SD being 'tasteless', I'd rather focus my energy on trying to understand (and realize) how cohesively tasteful the dance is, to see that it is place within certain convention being loud and bold instead of putting your own conviction and vision of ideal SD before that. Like with FD, there is a sense of performing with purpose, strong devotion to the sole idea of being out there and giving their all: energy, skill, focus, expression, connection, which is amazing to see after so many years together in competition. I just love the way the dance references Latin ballroom styles of dance - it is prominent and so integrated within the whole bold concept of expression; all body actions, figures, rhythmic actions, isolations of upper body parts in particular, frame and partnering - all done so well, so classy. Tessa is really unmatched when it comes to Latin style for me - she performs some actions, stops that are extremely difficult to execute even on the floor (e.g. that stop followed by samba action in non-touch step sequence, all transition between pattern and partial step sequence) and her movement is so sharp, so well-centred for Latin rhythms. Most importantly, they seem to have so much fun from performing that dance, it's infectious for me - the picture kind of grabs you instantly and radiates with sass, because to be honest - this idea could go very wrong, but somehow they make it impactful, yet breezy and even with 'tongue-in-cheek' vibe.
I am a HUGE fan of their Mahler, and I've loved in no particular order their Prince SD from last year, Funny Face, the Latin number from 2011 worlds, Pink Floyd, Umbrellas of Cherbourg, even their strange but beautiful Carmen. I had no expectations for their FD this year given that we've seen Ashley rock it out in 2016 worlds. And they took it and turned it into a glorious masterwork.
I cannot wait for them to take their programs to Pyeongchang to deliver performances for the ages.
I cannot wait for them to take their programs to Pyeongchang to deliver performances for the ages.
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Its only twice they have performed their new programs in competition and there already near perfection.
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They know what they want and they know how to get it. I'm sure this summer they didn't leave anything to chance. And that's why they came out so strong since the beginning.
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I fear since david morin is the tech judge at nhk they will be lowballed. Poor V/M they don't deserve these biased judges. 
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I fear since david morin is the tech judge at nhk they will be lowballed. [/B].[/B][/B]
Nobody needs it! I honestly don't think it's a done deal for any of the two top teams. People should stop angsting and appreciate the beauty of their work. I never got the impression that V/M was ever lowballed. This is a myth born from a very partial canadian commentating style and press. Canada has a wonderful and strong tradition Figure skating/ Ice dance but there is also great quality work outside of Canada!
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Except they have been lowballed a few times. i just feel like they arent always appreictad for there inovation of ice dance as well there unique amazing programs
I agree Cherry. They are always coming up with different programs unlike other teams. They are very versatile. Their SD this year is waaay better than papadakis and Cizeron's SD i feel yet their score were close. I don't get that. The FD of P/C is beautiful but very similar to what they usually do. Im having a bad feeling
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Just try to enjoy them guys. It's likely their final competitive season, and NHK will be their last GP. If they perform well and still get questionable marks we'll know why that is. But we can still enjoy their skating and their exhibition performance. Lots of beautiful moments to look forward to.
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