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Oh, I just watched the BEsp video, thanks for the link. I agree with el Henry about the commentary.

Jason looks so happy as he is skating and the crowd seems to love the show. I can see his face and costume in this video. What a performance! I give the triple axle a 3. How could it have been better?
 
So Jason did two 3A's in his GPF FS, right? And they were back-to-back, right? I mean one right after the other in the first half of the program... (if my eyes did not deceive me but I just woke up out of a sound sleep to catch his skate so maybe I missed something). My first reaction was :palmf: disbelief placing those elements so close together. Has he ever done that before? Seems it would have been better to move the second 3A to the second half of the program, stamina and points wise. If I am missing something here kindly enlighten me folks! Otherwise I thought it was a great skate considering new boots and the spiral was breathtaking... a moment to cherish
 
The original layout was 2A, 3A-3T then 3A in the second half. That's what I was talking about earlier --I have no clue why they decided to move the second 3A up.

I usually support Kori's plan for Jason, but all these on-the-fly layout changes is really :confused: for me.
 
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Seems a questionable strategy on Kori's part. I agree she should choose the best layout (Skate Canada) and let Jason do multiple run throughs before Nationals. Remember she challenged Jason prior to Worlds 2015 with 40 perfect run-throughs of T & I and he did it then pulled off a 4th plce finish? Perhaps she is cautious with Jason's training so close to Nationals and Olympics, but I think Jason is a skater that finds fulfillment in challenge.. I am hoping she makes the best decisions for him in the interim but Nationals will be a nail-biter for sure! BEST OF LUCK TO HIM!!! SO want to see him on that podium and at Olympics..
 
^ That's exactly what I was thinking about. He did a similar exercise before 2014 Nationals, IIRC.

Also I'm thinking out loud, but I'm wondering if Jason's taking on a bit much choreographically. I know that it's enabling him to get great PCS scores, but I feel like if they took out some of the complexity, he would be able to still have a not-empty program and hit the jumps. But he did that choreography at Skate Canada practice just fine with two 3As and a quad. So yeah, I'm just confused by it all.

I'm just hoping that maybe what we're seeing was some sort of boot issue and once he breaks in these new boots some of the issues will be resolved.

In the meanwhile so much :drama: for us fans.
 
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^ That's exactly what I was thinking about. He did a similar exercise before 2014 Nationals, IIRC.

Also I'm thinking out loud, but I'm wondering if Jason's taking on a bit much choreographically. I know that it's enabling him to get great PCS scores, but I feel like if they took out some of the complexity, he would be able to still have a not-empty program and hit the jumps. But he did that choreography at Skate Canada practice just fine with two 3As and a quad. So yeah, I'm just confused by it all.

I'm just hoping that maybe what we're seeing was some sort of boot issue and once he breaks in these new boots some of the issues will be resolved.

In the meanwhile so much :drama: for us fans.
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This is the bit that bothers me the most. He had it at some point, but something seems to have happened between that practice and now. Something's amiss, I feel it in my bones :(
 
Okay. I’m just guessing here but I think he cannot accept that he’s not ready to add the quad, so they put it in the planned program content and pull it at the last minute. Remember that updated illegible planned program content sheet he was displaying the other day? That means he keeps practicing a layout with the 4T, and multiple layouts where they pull it or move the 3A different places.

Not sure how many of you watched the German stream, but they showed the 6 minute warmup and I saw Jason fall on one 3A and pop another. So I’m sure that’s why they put the two 3As right up front today.
 
Interesting theory.

Kori did seem REALLY distant (for her) in the K&C. She wasn't mean to Jason and she attempted to comfort him, but you can sense some sort of... dissatisfaction with the performance?

I wonder if in a sense, he sees taking out the quad as a failure on his part and so he subconsciously ends up sabotaging himself by missing jumps he can do. The 3A in the SP was really awesome. The UR quads this season seem to be more him second-guessing himself then that he can't physically can't do the jump.

And the theory would also make sense if you think about the stuff he said during the IN interview about embracing who he is and where he is with his skating is, even in spite of his flaws. In a way, maybe the program can be like his version of the Shibs' "Fix You."

(I am also probably thinking this because I was a long-suffering Shibs fan during the previous Olympic quad and had to endure the comments that the Shibs would never amount to anything after their "fluke world medal." And I'm feeling an odd sense of deja vu with what Jason's going through right now -- Alex endured a lot of injures, they started losing to couples they beat previously, etc. I'm just hoping it doesn't take 5 years to resolve it though because that is just too much :drama: for me. :laugh:.)
 
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In the Lynn Rutherford article he talks about part of his journey being moving from anger to acceptance. I took that as meaning his anger over his struggle with the quad (maybe the 3A too, but I think this is taking longer).

He’s a fantastic athlete, and I’m sure he has a strong enough ego to realize that if he could land 3 or 4 quads in a competition, he’d be right up there with the top guys, because the other parts of his skating are so exceptional. Imagine how frustrating it must be. And then imagine what it must be like knowing that you and your failure to land a quad are being publicly discussed, often in not so nice ways.

I will have to go back and rewatch Kori. I think it was so early and I was so disappointed for him after how well he did yesterday, that I didn’t notice it.
 
People mistake effervescence for constant happiness. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he's processing a lot of tough feelings right now. I think before he could develop at his own pace and yeah there were people who made comments, but in the lower levels his skating was so exceptional that he still managed to do relatively well in competition.

Even in 2014, he was more of a dark horse and he saw himself as peaking in 2018. Going to the Olympics in 2014 was truly a sweet bonus for him. Now he's on the edge of contender status and he has this HUGE roadblock in his way.

He said just as much in the article - the expectations are higher and I think that includes his own expectations for himself. I'm glad he's verbalizing his feelings both through various articles and on his YouTube channel.
 
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I also think a big piece of this is the added pressure he feels because he has already had the Olympic experience and really wants to go back. It’s easy to say, oh well, he already went once so it’s okay if he misses out this time, but knowing how patriotic he is and how much pride he has in competing for Team USA, I don’t think he feels that way. That said, he has a strong and loving family, so if he doesn’t get to go, I’m sure he will accept it graciously, be glad for his teammates, and eventually be okay with it.
 
Oh my, Jason isn't off the team yet! He still has a good chance to get on it. But yeah, whatever happens he'll learn from it, I'm sure.

The big positive about GPF is that he did well in the SP and the judges showed they like his programs. Consider his lowest PCS this season was 44/89. That used to be what he got at the end of the season. :laugh:
 
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I just watched Jason's free skate (I waited until they showed it on the telly, which they just did).

And I wanted to say that this program gives me chills. Always.

(Also, already knowing the worst there is to know, I don't have to care about anything but just watching the program.:))
 
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Oh my, Jason isn't off the team yet! He still has a good chance to get on it. But yeah, whatever happens he'll learn from it, I'm sure.

The big positive about GPF is that he did well in the SP and the judges showed they like his programs. Consider his lowest PCS this season was 44/89. That used to be what he got at the end of the season. :laugh:
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Sorry, I didn’t mean to sound like it was all over! It’s just that I have heard people say that before, and it popped into my mind.

I rewatched the program and now I’m starting to wonder if it was the boots or injury, rather than nerves. Or causing the nerves. Because he had trouble on so many of the jumping passes.

Kori looked like she was expecting a bad score and that she was frustrated that she hasn’t been able to help him.

ETA: Here is his most recent tweet, quoting the following from Hamilton: I am the one thing in life I can control. I am original. I am inimitable.

https://twitter.com/jasonbskates/status/939270671661637632

So true of him, that he is an original, and inimitable!
 
I don't think it's injury. We've unfortunately seen what a injured Jason skates like (NHK Trophy 2016 and prior to missing the rest of the the 2015-2016 season he had a poor performance at Ice Challenge).

He skated really well in the SP and his first 3A in the FS was pretty good - really decent height, just not the best landing. I'm sure the boots might have contributed to the issue, but I think there was some self-doubt in there. That 3A fall was SO weird -- he kind of just half-heartily lunged into it -- there was no way that jump was going to happen .

That tweet was so nice! I like the photo -- it shows the best of his effervescence (the Eurospot guys used it to describe him during his SP and I think it's the perfect way to describe him).

I think he'll come out of it. It's so funny to hear the Shibutanis talk about things in the past -- they've definitely thrown hints of past struggles in some of their recent writings -- they even said they thought about retiring after the 2015 season, which is unfathomable to me now. I think Jason will look back on this time and would be glad to have the experience, even if it kind of bites now. (I mean he kind of said just as much to Lynn Rutherford).

Edited: Some interesting tidbits from Jason here: https://goldenskate.com/2017/12/2017-gpf-men/

“I love, love performing here!” said the 2017 Skate Canada silver medalist. “It’s like performing at home. I felt so much support, I wanted to come back so badly, because I was here for NHK and I wanted to come back stronger for this event.”

The 22-year-old was a replacement for China’s Boyang Jin who withdrew due to ankle injuries.

“After NHK, my focus was US championships,” said Brown. “I got new skates, getting prepared so I can be in top shape there (US championships). Then, at 2 a.m. on Friday, I was in my bed when I got a text from my coach telling me to pack my bags we leave on Sunday. I was so excited. I have been training my butt off, so this event felt like an extra bonus.”
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Guess we need to trust Kori to give Jason what he needs before Nationals. After years coaching him she must know what is best. It would not surprise me if she honestly did not expect much from him at the GPF because his going to that event was such a surprise fluke and the unplanned trip would have been fatiguing although exciting. Perhaps Kori just decided to keep things low key, no pressure in this comp and let the chips fall where they may but, if true, this may have backfired a bit causing some frustration for Jason who likes strong strategy and direction. I believe Kori's focus is Nationals and she was not too concerned about his results at GPF. I think her primary concern is to keep Jason safe and healthy going into Nationals. Nevertheless, Jason seems to me to be a caged lion who wants to break free and I feel strongly he is ready to deliver the goods; coaching Jason through this will likely be a study in delicate balance.... Jason loves skating for the home crowd though and I am looking forward to it whatever the result.
 
I was actually traveling, and not hiding as a result of the LP....

But I am scared:sad21: I'm just not used to this one step forward, two steps back from our Jason. I'm ready to abandon Son of Piano and go back to the real Piano:devil:

But reading y'all has made me feel better. :agree:
 
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