Shoma Uno: 2014-2024

[idontknow]

https://twitter.com/yawning_shoma/status/982863277335203840?s=19
misha post this pic .thank you misha
sleepy shoma and misha

 

[eaglehelang]

the sleeping position, whether its horizontal, 90 degree, face up or face down , is indeed Shoma's fav position.

 

[MaiKatze]

Thank you for all the translations! All of them are professional tbh As mentioned by others it's really nice to know how foreign commentators think about Shoma. Not only German one but I also want to thank another fans who translated Russian comment to English.

Regarding most commentators not knowing about Shoma's injury, I think it's because it's "unofficial" (Shoma decided not mentioning/ admitting it and it was not officially announced), also we can see the difference between Japan and foreign media. No matter what, how Shoma fought back in the later half of FP could be witnessed and felt by EVERYONE.

"H: Yes that's why. But he has to be 5th, at least."
-> Not your problem of translation but it's the mistake by the commentator Shoma only needs to be sixth for Japan to grab 3 spots

They were also wrong going on about the Salchow. He never planned a quad Salchow, and she believed that to the end. She should've known since he never jumped the Quad Salchow, and they certainly haven't watched Lombardia.

I also find it interesting that Petra thought Shoma was partying (i.e. appearing for interviews with media) instead of training. Maybe that was meant to be a joke?

It wasn't meant to be a joke, she was serious. Strange, as the japanese are known for their work ethic. And well, Savchenko/Massot for example, had ice shows in Switzerland between the Olympics and Worlds, were also quite busy with the media and all, and well, they did great. It's a weird thing to say about Shoma, but they didn't know about his foot, and I think were only interpreting what they saw and thus concluding limited practice time and fatigue was to blame.

 

[MaiKatze]

German Eurosport, Worlds Milan 2018, Gala, Original Commentary, Sigi Heinrich

Yes, it appears this fuzzy-head is subscribed to second place. This is Shoma Uno from Nagoya in Japan. Second at the Olympic Games, second at the Four Continent Championships and second at these World Championships, like last year.

But he is a great guy.

Shoma Uno Silver medal winner at these World Championships in Milan. Well, he found his master in a Quadruple Artist. His Quadruples, two of them weren't good, in the free, and that tipped the scales towards the U.S. American Nathan Chen.

But both of them still have all the doors open, both are still fresh spring chickens, Chen is even younger than Uno. A pity that Yuzuru Hanyu was not here, the Olympic Champion from Sochi and the Olympic Champion from PyeongChang, but considering the intensity Yuzuru Hanyu always skates with, I can understand, that he said, this World Championship doesn't fit into the schedule.

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Original

Ja, auf zweite Plätze abonniert zu sein, scheint dieser Wuschelkopf. Das ist Shoma Uno aus Nagoya in Japan. Zweiter bei den Olympischen Spielen, zweiter bei den Four Continental Meisterschaften und zweiter bei diesen Weltmeisterschaften, wie schon im vergangenen Jahr.

Aber ein toller Typ.

Shoma Uno der Silbermedaillengewinner bei diesen Weltmeisterschaften in Mailand. Tja, er fand seinen Meister in einem Vierfach Künstler. Seine Vierfach Sprünge, zwei davon waren nicht gut, in der Kür, das hat unter anderem natürlich auch den Ausschlag zu Gunsten des US-Amerikaners Nathan Chen gegeben.

Aber beiden steht die Tür ja auch weiterhin offen, beide sind ja noch ganz junge Hüpfer, Chen noch jünger sogar als Uno. Schade natürlich das Hanyu nicht da war, der Olympiasieger von Sochi und Olympiasieger von PyeongChang, aber mit der Intensität mit der Yuzuru Hanyu immer läuft kann ich das schon verstehen das er sagte, diese WM die passt nicht mehr ins Programm.

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This concludes my Worlds translation, I meant no offense. Are you interested in Olympic Translations? I might post them during off-season, when Shoma News are low. :yawn:

 

[Lyyli]

A bit late but Arriba for your inclusive summary of Shoma´s season and MaiKatze for the translations. I will read your Olympic ones too.

Our Worlds commentator didn´t know about Shoma´s injury in SP but in FP she was aware of it. I believe some people she knows and FS fans including me informed her. It is common here that when commentators make mistakes or don´t know something they get feedback from the spectators right away. Shoma has always received lots of praise from them. For example he´s been described as an exceptionally charismatic skater. At the Olys they said that not every skater reaches the level of Turandot and Jose Carreras but Shoma does that for sure.

I guess Shoma was told to get a foreign choreographer in the beginning of his career, not recently? Mihoko has already showed off her skills and her programs have been well-received also by the judges. On the other hand, as now there already is lots of years of co-operation behind, it is natural that they have searched new insight and inspiration for example from Stephane. Totally my speculation and a though based on intuition, Tom Dickson came to my mind if he is ever to get a total choreography from a foreign person. The programs he did for Satoko and earlier to Jeremy and Adam are very artistic imo. He reads the music so well and respects artistry a lot.

What comes to the jumps I believe Shoma and the team are very aware what they need to do. If he needs help from outside they will get it somehow. Doug Haw said his take offs are spinny and what he needs to do is to flatten the jump entries. I wonder the correction he needs to make could actually be a minor one. Shoma skates on a very deep edge that is probably too much for the jumps. Maybe he needs a little bit more upright position for making a solid jump. If some new fans are not aware of TSL episode where Haw talks about Shoma and his jumps, here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0NndStY5Rw They discuss about the jumps in 21:35.

 

[saphire]

They were also wrong going on about the Salchow. He never planned a quad Salchow, and she believed that to the end. She should've known since he never jumped the Quad Salchow, and they certainly haven't watched Lombardia.



It wasn't meant to be a joke, she was serious. Strange, as the japanese are known for their work ethic. And well, Savchenko/Massot for example, had ice shows in Switzerland between the Olympics and Worlds, were also quite busy with the media and all, and well, they did great. It's a weird thing to say about Shoma, but they didn't know about his foot, and I think were only interpreting what they saw and thus concluding limited practice time and fatigue was to blame.

I thought it was a weird comment since she should know that Olympic medal winners have certain obligations for media interviews sometimes set by skating or sports federation to promote the sport, etc. Maybe it was her way of comparing to Nathan's training was different because he was under the radar following the Olympics, had motivation and time to train compared to skaters at Worlds who were not as successful at Olympics. I could understand it more if Shoma had gone on media tour like Adam Rippon, who has essentially retired, appearing on every morning and late night shows, appearing on red carpet at Academy awards.

 

[MaiKatze]

Yep, Shoma was basically finished with his free and already stated in interviews he was going home to Japan now to prepare for Worlds. He just shortly made trip back to PC for the Gala and didn't even go to the closing ceremony. He must've known he had to hurry because his boots were falling apart and he needed to have new ones. It's hard to time that right I imagine. Ideally one would do it after the GPF before japanese Nationals, but for Shoma japanese Nationals were also important, so perhaps sometime in January, but then there is 4CC. If you have as many competitions it is mighty hard to find the perfect timing. It's easy to say should've, would've....but if he had done it like last year, there wouldn't have been as many falls, I guess. Well, it is what it is.

 

[Logirl]

Shoma Jump Entry

A bit late but Arriba for your inclusive summary of Shoma´s season and MaiKatze for the translations. I will read your Olympic ones too.

Our Worlds commentator didn´t know about Shoma´s injury in SP but in FP she was aware of it. I believe some people she knows and FS fans including me informed her. It is common here that when commentators make mistakes or don´t know something they get feedback from the spectators right away. Shoma has always received lots of praise from them. For example he´s been described as an exceptionally charismatic skater. At the Olys they said that not every skater reaches the level of Turandot and Jose Carreras but Shoma does that for sure.

I guess Shoma was told to get a foreign choreographer in the beginning of his career, not recently? Mihoko has already showed off her skills and her programs have been well-received also by the judges. On the other hand, as now there already is lots of years of co-operation behind, it is natural that they have searched new insight and inspiration for example from Stephane. Totally my speculation and a though based on intuition, Tom Dickson came to my mind if he is ever to get a total choreography from a foreign person. The programs he did for Satoko and earlier to Jeremy and Adam are very artistic imo. He reads the music so well and respects artistry a lot.

What comes to the jumps I believe Shoma and the team are very aware what they need to do. If he needs help from outside they will get it somehow. Doug Haw said his take offs are spinny and what he needs to do is to flatten the jump entries. I wonder the correction he needs to make could actually be a minor one. Shoma skates on a very deep edge that is probably too much for the jumps. Maybe he needs a little bit more upright position for making a solid jump. If some new fans are not aware of TSL episode where Haw talks about Shoma and his jumps, here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0NndStY5Rw They discuss about the jumps in 21:35.

Thanks for me Haw comments. Shoma needs to see this. He said the problem is Shoma entry into the jump. How you enter is how you land. And he made it clear that it is on the coach to correct this. Shoma could be the total package with this correction.

 

[daphenaxa]

Shoma is already the total package

 

[Logirl]

Well Shoma is my favorite skater since Mao Asada so I do think he is close.

 

[Arriba627]

Yep, Shoma was basically finished with his free and already stated in interviews he was going home to Japan now to prepare for Worlds. He just shortly made trip back to PC for the Gala and didn't even go to the closing ceremony. He must've known he had to hurry because his boots were falling apart and he needed to have new ones. It's hard to time that right I imagine. Ideally one would do it after the GPF before japanese Nationals, but for Shoma japanese Nationals were also important, so perhaps sometime in January, but then there is 4CC. If you have as many competitions it is mighty hard to find the perfect timing. It's easy to say should've, would've....but if he had done it like last year, there wouldn't have been as many falls, I guess. Well, it is what it is.

And I've always thought there's no magical formula so you can determine exactly when your boots are going to break down. I'm sure the boots are the same but different -- if that makes any sense. Also maybe it depends on how many quads or what type of quads you're practicing to cause the boot break down. It seems like it's a tricky balancing act.

 

[Arriba627]

Last call for key chains. If anyone in the U.S. is interested in a Sho key chain, please PM me your name and address, and I will get one to you. I gave out more than half of them at Worlds, and I will give out more at the next competition if I have any left. They definitely will not go to waste. Just let me know.

https://pic.twitter.com/neIModgoGp

 

[MaiKatze]

And I've always thought there's no magical formula so you can determine exactly when your boots are going to break down. I'm sure the boots are the same but different -- if that makes any sense. Also maybe it depends on how many quads or what type of quads you're practicing to cause the boot break down. It seems like it's a tricky balancing act.

True and since they broke down immediately after the free (if we believe some sources, even 'during' it) Shoma was lucky that that didn't happen earlier, or he would've found himself far away from the podium at the Olympics. As great as Worlds are, Worlds arrive every year, so I'm pretty sure there is a World Title in for Shoma at a later point. The Olympics on the other hand....this season was what it was, it had up and downs, and that's pretty much what we're used to from all the top men. I'm ready to leave this season behind like yesterday. Can't wait to see what will happen next year, without 'The Olympics' hanging over everyone's head like a dark gloomy cloud. At least I hope we will see more experiments, program wise.

 

[mresundance]

Shoma is already the total package

He is but his jumps still need some work.

I tend to wonder how much of his whackadoodle jumping technique is part of compensating for his size and build. He is obviously not the same height as most of the other skaters, and he is not pencil thin like Yuzu. It might make the jumping harder, especially in gaining height.

I mostly speak as a really small guy myself (5', 118 pounds) and I do have to compensate because of my size when I do exercise or certain types of physical activity. So it makes me curious.

 

[daphenaxa]

He is but his jumps still need some work.

well yes obviously, everything can get better and especially his jump landings are not always the best and he knows this as well so i'm sure he will work on it. But i still think he is the complete package already. The jumps are there, if not always perfect, and the rest SS, expression, musicality, spins, footwork etc. are there too. He is not perfect but he is complete in that way.

I think the main thing is Shoma used to have a lot less power than taller guys and in my opinion, that's why he took so long to get the 3A when he was junior. But his build nowadays probably compensate in great part the potential lack for power (the THIGHS ) and the lower center of gravity also helps him in terms of rotation (smaller size with smaller limbs, you need less energy to tighten your body and can rotate faster with less "snap")

 

[saphire]

I am not sure when this interview with Shizuka was done but Shoma talks about his jumps in part 3:

https://twitter.com/redgreendress/status/981972245542293505

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK5FAHS4LD4

I wonder if Shoma will plan another training session this summer with Coach Alex at Glacier Ice

 

[mresundance]

well yes obviously, everything can get better and especially his jump landings are not always the best and he knows this as well so i'm sure he will work on it. But i still think he is the complete package already. The jumps are there, if not always perfect, and the rest SS, expression, musicality, spins, footwork etc. are there too. He is not perfect but he is complete in that way.

I think the main thing is Shoma used to have a lot less power than taller guys and in my opinion, that's why he took so long to get the 3A when he was junior. But his build nowadays probably compensate in great part the potential lack for power (the THIGHS ) and the lower center of gravity also helps him in terms of rotation (smaller size with smaller limbs, you need less energy to tighten your body and can rotate faster with less "snap")

Oh yes, of course he will work on his jumps, just like he does everything. He is definitely going to continue improving. The difference between his three senior seasons is astonishing in just how much he has grown as a skater. I have no doubt his jumps will improve given time. And he does have the SS, expression, musicality, spins, footwork, etc. as you noted. If he wasn't the complete package already, he would not be a top competitor.

You make some great points about his center of gravity and the rotations. I never thought of that. And the thighs. Bless those thighs. He is like 80 % thighs.

 

[nolangoh]

well yes obviously, everything can get better and especially his jump landings are not always the best and he knows this as well so i'm sure he will work on it. But i still think he is the complete package already. The jumps are there, if not always perfect, and the rest SS, expression, musicality, spins, footwork etc. are there too. He is not perfect but he is complete in that way.

I think the main thing is Shoma used to have a lot less power than taller guys and in my opinion, that's why he took so long to get the 3A when he was junior. But his build nowadays probably compensate in great part the potential lack for power (the THIGHS ) and the lower center of gravity also helps him in terms of rotation (smaller size with smaller limbs, you need less energy to tighten your body and can rotate faster with less "snap")

He saves a lot of rotational force given he doesn't need much time to get into rotation because his limbs aren't long. We have seen many taller skaters who just can't get into the position and their limbs just flail all apart in the air and that is really messy, I have never seen that from Shoma honestly, NEVER. He rotates every jump he has jumped. With a lower CG his axis is pretty consistent too imo, unlike tall skaters, for example Plushenko, sometimes his jumps freak me out.

 

[nolangoh]

I am not sure when this interview with Shizuka was done but Shoma talks about his jumps in part 3:

https://twitter.com/redgreendress/status/981972245542293505

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK5FAHS4LD4

I wonder if Shoma will plan another training session this summer with Coach Alex at Glacier Ice

I am sure he does, he has been visiting him every summer so I think he will go there this year too, plus he said he wishes to improve the quality of his jumps so he is definitely going. The task for this summer will be the quad Sal, he has it already, he just has to make it consistent, which Im sure he will, his edge jumps have such a nice flow throughout and that will be a big point getter.

 

[eaglehelang]

well yes obviously, everything can get better and especially his jump landings are not always the best and he knows this as well so i'm sure he will work on it. But i still think he is the complete package already. The jumps are there, if not always perfect, and the rest SS, expression, musicality, spins, footwork etc. are there too. He is not perfect but he is complete in that way.

I think the main thing is Shoma used to have a lot less power than taller guys and in my opinion, that's why he took so long to get the 3A when he was junior. But his build nowadays probably compensate in great part the potential lack for power (the THIGHS ) and the lower center of gravity also helps him in terms of rotation (smaller size with smaller limbs, you need less energy to tighten your body and can rotate faster with less "snap")

Since you've watched skating live, were you there when Shoma did his 4S?
Do you know what was the problem with his 4S that he dropped it from his layout?
He has to work on his 4L landing too.