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TSL can suggest whatever they want, but it doesn’t mean they aren’t clueless at least half of the times...
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TSL can suggest whatever they want, but it doesn’t mean they aren’t clueless at least half of the times...
Just checked Boyang's FF. everyone is happy that Boyang is (perhaps) going to train with BO
Added perhaps, since it is still not 100% sure yet.
I think I need to add a bit Nathan content here to avoid get deleted or a warning.
but Nathan Boi, you are so charming, talented, hardworking and humble, I bet every coach will love to have you as their pupil.
Added perhaps, since it is still not 100% sure yet.I think I need to add a bit Nathan content here to avoid get deleted or a warning.
but Nathan Boi, you are so charming, talented, hardworking and humble, I bet every coach will love to have you as their pupil.
Some videos of Nathan completely unrelated to SOI or Yale:
This short message was to the fans attending the Santa Barbara ice show that was canceled but rescheduled for early Feb so that he wasn't able to attend. His message begins after the 2min mark.
http://www.keyt.com/news/top-storie...ory-of-skaters-who-died-in-mudslide/698467007
Here's a video of the 2014 Evening With Champions show where he performed "Best Day of My Life." This time I was drawn to the opening number. Even at that time Nathan stood out from the others. Not only were his dance moves better but he was doing double twizzles while everyone else did singles. What a show off!
https://youtu.be/gB8en2Pd_7A?t=4m29s
This short message was to the fans attending the Santa Barbara ice show that was canceled but rescheduled for early Feb so that he wasn't able to attend. His message begins after the 2min mark.
http://www.keyt.com/news/top-storie...ory-of-skaters-who-died-in-mudslide/698467007
Here's a video of the 2014 Evening With Champions show where he performed "Best Day of My Life." This time I was drawn to the opening number. Even at that time Nathan stood out from the others. Not only were his dance moves better but he was doing double twizzles while everyone else did singles. What a show off!
https://youtu.be/gB8en2Pd_7A?t=4m29s
So China is finally making their move. I’m not surprised. I knew after Beijing they’d want to win as many medals as possible. It’s good they move now considering that the men’s field will only deepen here. Dmitri should improve. Vincent should hopefully start landing and rotating his quads soon. But Nathan, I’m convinced, is safe. He needs to focus on staying his own course and being an all around skater. He knows how to become the greatest skater, so I’m not nervous for him at all for Beijing.
Brain Orser is not a good option for Nathan. The cricket club would require him to move to Canada and give up on his dream of attending Harvard Medical School. He can’t just take online classes, he has to attend a top tier school and show results. That means staying stateside.
Getting a new coach is very tough. Often they make you relearn your jumping technique. Not just tweaks, but different entrances, hand positions, torque, etc. It very intensive, so a summer just wouldn’t cut it. He would need to be there full time for years. In the meantime, Nathan’s dreams of attending HMS would be in jeopardy. I just don’t see Brian choosing to train with Nathan a week before his company when he’s jammed packed with high level students already. With Raf, I’m very sure he’ll be there. He may be getting money, but KSF and JSF already have other skaters they can hype. China and Japan depend more on Yuzuru and Boyang.
I’m very cautious about discussing changing a coach, especially when you’re in a situation like Nathan. He’s going to college full time. He can’t do part time. He can only do a gap year once, and that will be for 2021-2022. (Hopefully, he will have enough credits to graduate the year before.) I can’t image any coaches that would want to deal with that complication other than Raf.
Nathan is a committed man on a mission. The the last year was so crazy and packed that it will make next year a lot easier for him. No traveling for sponsorship commitments. No NBC promos or USOC meet and greets. Finally he can stay in one spot and focus just on training and school for the first time in two years.
Last fall was a nightmare. I watched him start off with so much promise in the beginning of the season and start to crumble around the GPF. At SA, I knew it was because of his blade. But at the GPF, I knew it was because of fatigue. He’s been traveling so much trying to please so many people that it wore him out. Not only that, but it took away from his choreography. He planned to add more elements to his FS in SA. That clearly fell apart. But I do know, that now Nathan can handle a jammed pack schedule. In fact, I expect to be even better next year, because he will have more stability in his life.
Nathan will be fine. He’s already built that stamina to land six quads and a 3A in his program. He’s stabilized his 3A. He’s jumps are more solid. He’s formed a good relation with two choreographers that will continue to deliver good programs for him. And he has a great head on his shoulder.
Next year he’ll be focused on improve the consistency of his 4S, including transistions in his program, more blade work, and the quality of his skating. All without Olympic pressure and having the confidence of knowing that he has already won everything already. I’ve trusted his decisions so far. He’s one of the smartest skaters. Trust me, he has a plan. He always does.
Brain Orser is not a good option for Nathan. The cricket club would require him to move to Canada and give up on his dream of attending Harvard Medical School. He can’t just take online classes, he has to attend a top tier school and show results. That means staying stateside.
Getting a new coach is very tough. Often they make you relearn your jumping technique. Not just tweaks, but different entrances, hand positions, torque, etc. It very intensive, so a summer just wouldn’t cut it. He would need to be there full time for years. In the meantime, Nathan’s dreams of attending HMS would be in jeopardy. I just don’t see Brian choosing to train with Nathan a week before his company when he’s jammed packed with high level students already. With Raf, I’m very sure he’ll be there. He may be getting money, but KSF and JSF already have other skaters they can hype. China and Japan depend more on Yuzuru and Boyang.
I’m very cautious about discussing changing a coach, especially when you’re in a situation like Nathan. He’s going to college full time. He can’t do part time. He can only do a gap year once, and that will be for 2021-2022. (Hopefully, he will have enough credits to graduate the year before.) I can’t image any coaches that would want to deal with that complication other than Raf.
Nathan is a committed man on a mission. The the last year was so crazy and packed that it will make next year a lot easier for him. No traveling for sponsorship commitments. No NBC promos or USOC meet and greets. Finally he can stay in one spot and focus just on training and school for the first time in two years.
Last fall was a nightmare. I watched him start off with so much promise in the beginning of the season and start to crumble around the GPF. At SA, I knew it was because of his blade. But at the GPF, I knew it was because of fatigue. He’s been traveling so much trying to please so many people that it wore him out. Not only that, but it took away from his choreography. He planned to add more elements to his FS in SA. That clearly fell apart. But I do know, that now Nathan can handle a jammed pack schedule. In fact, I expect to be even better next year, because he will have more stability in his life.
Nathan will be fine. He’s already built that stamina to land six quads and a 3A in his program. He’s stabilized his 3A. He’s jumps are more solid. He’s formed a good relation with two choreographers that will continue to deliver good programs for him. And he has a great head on his shoulder.
Next year he’ll be focused on improve the consistency of his 4S, including transistions in his program, more blade work, and the quality of his skating. All without Olympic pressure and having the confidence of knowing that he has already won everything already. I’ve trusted his decisions so far. He’s one of the smartest skaters. Trust me, he has a plan. He always does.
Just half the time?
I think a lot of people had a knee jerk reaction to PC. It’s best to make decisions carefully and methodically.
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Ofc, "He doesn't want to look bad at competitions," Rafael said in that new interview.
My condolences to the skaters especially that young figure skater, wish you happy in heaven. Pray for you.
Nathan and his msg is sooo cute:luv17:
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Haha, what’s PC though?
Pyeongchang.
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I disagree with you on some. just name one: Any great and responsible coach understand NOT to tweak or mess much around whatever already works, they will communicate with skaters to work on whatever needs to be improved. So NO need to worry about that if changing coaches.
I disagree with you on some. just name one: Any great and responsible coach understand NOT to tweak or mess much around whatever already works, they will communicate with skaters to work on whatever needs to be improved. So NO need to worry about that if changing coaches.
I wouldn't be so sure...
Please let this be the year Nathan Chen learns how to say no.
I guess that confirms Frank Carroll was a bad coach. J/k
Brian has a very specific jumping technique, specifically with landing. Nathan would have to switch his technique with Brian to master it. But that’s just one detail. THe biggest is Yale, or college in general. It’s incompatible with the TCC.
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But he's given no indication he wants to change coaches? I know you want him to, but that's not realistic at this point. Or what he seems to want. Their relationship seems pretty good and they work well together. They also seem to have come to a better understanding lately as well, and worlds was a great success. And there is no elite coach that is going to work with him at Yale like Raf is willing to work with him period.
If anything he'd work with someone else for the things he lacks (hopefully without the drama of last time), but he's always going to stick with Raf for his jumps.
https://twitter.com/NYCBLive/status/987043323440398338
promo! very fluffy today
TBH, all these is not up to us figure skating fans to judge. It is between Skaters and Coaches, they will know better after try-outs, communication etc.
Nathan needs to work on his jump landing flow a bit tbh.
Nathan may take 1 or 2 gap year to prepare for next OG
If it does not work out, it does not work out.
yes, my opinions here is all just my wishful thinking as one little fan.
and Nathan will do whatever he will do and we will see.
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What’s TSL anyway?
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Also, does Yale have any flexibility if Nathan can take more than 1 gap year? Didn’t Sarah Hughes take two gap years?
Yale allows one gap year. So 2021-2022 will be it.
His jump landings were looking better at worlds. Especially the flow out of his 4Lz. After the fatigue set in, things went awry with his last two quads.
Rome wasn’t built in a day. Almost all 18 year old skaters are rough around the edges and improve afterwards. Now that he has his quads, it’s all about smoothing out the edges. Gaining consistency. Improving the quality. Adding transitions. Improving his skating skills.
Nathan already has the most important thing already. A competitive mindset that allows him to focus.
It's not really the the number of sponsorship commitments but the miles traveled. GPF was in Japan, choreography was in Toronto and S Carolina, costumes in NYC, Rostelecom, and even SkAm were a headache to get to.
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