Alina Zagitova

[EdRoz]

In Eteri's team there is no chance for senior figure skaters to win, she makes the result with juniors.

It's not, nobody knows, as a coach she is only 8 years on this level , its short time ..
Now , with Alina, she has a chance to prove that she can work with senior .
Not only Eteri is to blame for the problems Shelepen, Lipnitskaya and Medvedeva, if the athlete does not want to train, blames others for their problems, what can she do? They are free people, she can't force them to work.
Zhenya's departure to Canada, to another coach, she took as a challenge for her .. let's see how she responds

 

[EdRoz]

Alinka back to Moscow 22.05. , only 10 days in Dominicana, not too much ...
One week before the arrival of Masaru :yay:

And on June 4, a new season begins )

 

[johnlawyer999]

It's not, nobody knows, as a coach she is only 8 years on this level , its short time ..
Now , with Alina, she has a chance to prove that she can work with senior .
Not only Eteri is to blame for the problems Shelepen, Lipnitskaya and Medvedeva, if the athlete does not want to train, blames others for their problems, what can she do? They are free people, she can't force them to work.
Zhenya's departure to Canada, to another coach, she took as a challenge for her .. let's see how she responds

While Zhenya is enjoying her donut in Canada, Alina is fasting all the time under coach Eteri. There will be no competition next year. . Seriously, this year will be quite challenging for Alina, lot of distraction, media, political, dog, etc. Hope she can do well....Really really late. Happy Birthday Alina!

 

[Finley]

Alinka back to Moscow 22.05. , only 10 days in Dominicana, not too much ...
One week before the arrival of Masaru :yay:

And on June 4, a new season begins )

Still wondering if there is any time in that schedule for a trip to Izhevsk?

 

[EdRoz]

Still wondering if there is any time in that schedule for a trip to Izhevsk?

I think should go, there it is waiting for a medal from the city and 5000 rubles₽))

 

[Scott512]

I think should go, there it is waiting for a medal from the city and 5000 rubles₽))

Alina needs some love from her hometown and the key to the city.

 

[Scott512]

With everyone is changing coach for this season, I wonder why no senior skater in russia is moving on eteri's team i mean the woman is quite good too,is she really had this bad persona that skaters doesnt want to work with.

Seniors dont go to Eteri because there are too many great juniors plus Alina. They come first.

 

[Finley]

I think should go, there it is waiting for a medal from the city and 5000 rubles₽))

It would be wonderful for Alina to see her extended family and old school friends. Not to mention her first coach and former rink-mates. The medal and the acknowledgment from her hometown is quite the honor, but the love waiting for her there is the real reason to go home.

It would probably be a hectic trip. But worth it in the end.

 

[Dmitryfromsiberia]

It's not, nobody knows, as a coach she is only 8 years on this level , its short time ..
Now , with Alina, she has a chance to prove that she can work with senior .
Not only Eteri is to blame for the problems Shelepen, Lipnitskaya and Medvedeva, if the athlete does not want to train, blames others for their problems, what can she do? They are free people, she can't force them to work.
Zhenya's departure to Canada, to another coach, she took as a challenge for her .. let's see how she responds

Zhenya's decision to train with Orser in Canada is correct in her situation. This is the only coach in the world, equal Eteri. And call Eteri thinks not what she can not train the senior skaters, and the fact that Trusova will not save your quads for the senior. I think the problem Alina from Eteri's stable performance in major competitions, winning medals and quotas, while Trusova, Kostornaya, Shcherbakova will not work on a senior level.

 

[lesnar001]

So went to check this (I'm using a Mac btw), when I look at the instagram story, logged into my account, on the instagram site, I can see the love meter but can't move the slider. Even after I already slid it up to max on my own profile (on my phone I see it in max and I see my profile picture in place of the love emoji), on the website I can still see the meter and not my profile picture.

Conclusion from all this: on a Mac you can't interact with the stories on the instagram website (I can't send a message on the story either, and on my phone I can send a message), so maybe that love meter filter is something she applied from her phone and is only enabled on the instagram app, so you can only interact with it on your phone.

Same thing on my computer with Windows 7. At first I thought maybe my firefox browser because it is older version, but I also tried with google chrome (which is up to date) and it didn't work.

DmitryfromSiberia says it works on his Windows 7, Joomla and me it does not work - we don't have software to "emulate" phone apps - so I thought that was it.

But Dmitry doesn't use emulators either!!!!
So as I usually am when it comes to computers and technology - I am stumped.

Maybe instagram is really set up to work best with smart phones and its "hit or miss" as to what functions will work with a computer.

And to think that years ago I used to be the "first kid on the block" when it came to computer technology - those days are long gone.

 

[esteticlove]

While Zhenya is enjoying her donut in Canada, Alina is fasting all the time under coach Eteri. There will be no competition next year. . Seriously, this year will be quite challenging for Alina, lot of distraction, media, political, dog, etc. Hope she can do well....Really really late. Happy Birthday Alina!

This might have been some sort of a joke but I would like to ask you kindly to stay respectful to the skaters. I don't think that Zhenya Medvedeva is moving to Canada just to enjoy herself. Packing up your stuff and moving to the other side of the world is never an easy decision. Just like Alina did a couple of years ago, as she had to move across the country, with limited finances and a lot of struggles in Moscow in order to train under the best conditions for her. They both are very brave.

You see, Med was trained under Eteri for so long, had many successful competitions but this year everything was different. There were struggles, an injury, insecurities, their trust was broken, so it really didn't make sense for them to stay together. Eteri's approach will stay the same in the upcoming season but it doesn't work for Zhenya any more. Was she supposed to just stay stuck and wait..for nothing? No, she made a decision and embraced the change! And yes, there are going to be another struggles in Canada, Zhenya will be most certainly inconsistent because Brian Orser will try to improve her technique.

The competition bar won't be so high as it was, but it doesn't mean that it will be easy peasy for Alina. Remember the WC, Medvedeva wasn't even there...and then we know what happened. So, this season Alina's main competitor will be herself. Will she manage to deal with her fears and nerves? I really hope so! She's capable of it! We'll just need to wait.

 

[Sugar Coated]

It's not, nobody knows, as a coach she is only 8 years on this level , its short time ..
Now , with Alina, she has a chance to prove that she can work with senior .
Not only Eteri is to blame for the problems Shelepen, Lipnitskaya and Medvedeva, if the athlete does not want to train, blames others for their problems, what can she do? They are free people, she can't force them to work.
Zhenya's departure to Canada, to another coach, she took as a challenge for her .. let's see how she responds

Just a couple months ago the whole staff was praising Zhenya’s work ethic. And I haven’t heard Zhenya once blame others for not winning (aside from the alleged Eteri quote).

Alina will be the test to see if she has the ability to train seniors and achieve longevity. I’m worried about Alina because that is a lot of pressure placed on her and I’m not she is currently mentally strong enough for that kind of constant pressure.

 

[esteticlove]

I think Alina is psychologically more stable as she appears to be. She'll be fine with the pressure. Also, her dad and family as a whole are very protective in terms of media, so she's not entirely alone. Physically Alina is very fit as well and I don't expect big growth spurt or something that dramatically would affect her jumps.

 

[lesnar001]

The Entire Post!

Thank you - that was stated so well.

Ultimately each skater can really only control what they do for the few minutes they are on the ice. Everything else (how other competitors do, judges' scores) is really beyond their control.

Therefore they need to take whatever steps (yes - coaching changes) they feel will give them the chance to maximize their potential.

I hope that Alina and Evgenia will continue to push each other to greater heights - even though they don't train together anymore.

 

[lesnar001]

I think Alina is psychologically more stable as she appears to be. She'll be fine with the pressure. Also, her dad and family as a whole are very protective in terms of media, so she's not entirely alone. Physically Alina is very fit as well and I don't expect big growth spurt or something that dramatically would affect her jumps.

The fact that she added the triple lutz-triple loop late in her Olympic long program showed me a lot. With the exception of Evgenia, not too many skaters can do that successfully.

Even with her 3 falls at Worlds - she never gave up on attempting any jumps. Who knows what really happened that day to cause that performance.

Even if Alina never has the consistency that Evgenia has shown the last 2+ years - that is OK.

Who really other than Michelle Kwan (and maybe Yuna Kim?) has ever been as consistent (performance AND results) as Evgenia?

 

[Sugar Coated]

I think Alina is psychologically more stable as she appears to be. She'll be fine with the pressure. Also, her dad and family as a whole are very protective in terms of media, so she's not entirely alone. Physically Alina is very fit as well and I don't expect big growth spurt or something that dramatically would affect her jumps.

I don’t think she is “unstable.” I think she is currently prone to nerves, particularly when the stakes are higher. She even said something to the effect after worlds, that she did so well at olympics because she wasn’t thinking about it and wants to go back to that. Look at her face during the kiss and cry at worlds, girl is TERRIFIED. Not just disappointed or embarassed. Psychologically she was rattled and that experience will continue to rattle her if she doesn’t process it in the right way (ala Gracie Gold).

I also worry that Eteri is rough on the girls psychologically. Lipnitskaya broke down after her initial success and I don’t want to see this pattern. The fact that now eteri has to prove it’s not a pattern means even more pressure on Alina.

And it wasn’t meant to be an insult, it’s something that comes with time and the right type of coaching. Eteri is bad cop, I hope Daniil can be good cop so to speak. It’s not a bad thing to be “bad cop,” btw as long as there is also a “good cop.” They need someone who builds them up. I believe Zhenya was able to endure and thrive under Eteri’s intense pressure for so long because she was also being built up by Eteri, so to speak. I’ve yet to see Eteri build up Alina in the same way. This will likely change, but I’m not sure it will have the same effect because it didn’t exist from the start so it’s harder for her to believe that it’s genuine or lasting.

 

[Scott512]

This might have been some sort of a joke but I would like to ask you kindly to stay respectful to the skaters. I don't think that Zhenya Medvedeva is moving to Canada just to enjoy herself. Packing up your stuff and moving to the other side of the world is never an easy decision. Just like Alina did a couple of years ago, as she had to move across the country, with limited finances and a lot of struggles in Moscow in order to train under the best conditions for her. They both are very brave.

You see, Med was trained under Eteri for so long, had many successful competitions but this year everything was different. There were struggles, an injury, insecurities, their trust was broken, so it really didn't make sense for them to stay together. Eteri's approach will stay the same in the upcoming season but it doesn't work for Zhenya any more. Was she supposed to just stay stuck and wait..for nothing? No, she made a decision and embraced the change! And yes, there are going to be another struggles in Canada, Zhenya will be most certainly inconsistent because Brian Orser will try to improve her technique.

The competition bar won't be so high as it was, but it doesn't mean that it will be easy peasy for Alina. Remember the WC, Medvedeva wasn't even there...and then we know what happened. So, this season Alina's main competitor will be herself. Will she manage to deal with her fears and nerves? I really hope so! She's capable of it! We'll just need to wait.

Thank you for such a great post. It was very thoughtful.

 

[EdRoz]

Just a couple months ago the whole staff was praising Zhenya’s work ethic. And I haven’t heard Zhenya once blame others for not winning (aside from the alleged Eteri quote).

Alina will be the test to see if she has the ability to train seniors and achieve longevity. I’m worried about Alina because that is a lot of pressure placed on her and I’m not she is currently mentally strong enough for that kind of constant pressure.

Alina has won many competitions, she is strong enough to withstand any pressure, remember the Olympics.
Regarding Zhenya, yes, I think that she did not do the right thing. Moving to another coach is normal, there are no problems, especially if with the old coach the relationship was purely professional -athlete, coach and training. But if you call the trainer "Mom", you swear in love, almost live together for 10 years - find the opportunity to come to the coach and say - thank you for everything, we were well together, but I need grow , change something , I will always love you ,this flowers for you...

Something like that...

 

[lesnar001]

I don’t think she is “unstable.” I think she is currently prone to nerves, particularly when the stakes are higher. She even said something to the effect after worlds, that she did so well at olympics because she wasn’t thinking about it and wants to go back to that. Look at her face during the kiss and cry at worlds, girl is TERRIFIED. Not just disappointed or embarassed. Psychologically she was rattled and that experience will continue to rattle her if she doesn’t process it in the right way (ala Gracie Gold).

I also worry that Eteri is rough on the girls psychologically. Lipnitskaya broke down after her initial success and I don’t want to see this pattern. The fact that now eteri has to prove it’s not a pattern means even more pressure on Alina.

And it wasn’t meant to be an insult, it’s something that comes with time and the right type of coaching. Eteri is bad cop, I hope Daniil can be good cop so to speak. It’s not a bad thing to be “bad cop,” btw as long as there is also a “good cop.” They need someone who builds them up. I believe Zhenya was able to endure and thrive under Eteri’s intense pressure for so long because she was also being built up by Eteri, so to speak. I’ve yet to see Eteri build up Alina in the same way. This will likely change, but I’m not sure it will have the same effect because it didn’t exist from the start so it’s harder for her to believe that it’s genuine or lasting.

Well - I would't go so far as "terrified" - bewildered, maybe horrified at what took place.
Of course a performance like that would rattle anyone.

The best thing that happened afterwards is that she still did the gala - get back on the horse that threw you. Granted it wasn't competition - but she still does her difficult jumps in the exhibition - so it wasn't watered down like a lot of exhibitions.

It has also been pointed out that she had a bad performance of DQ back in juniors - and she survived that.

And frankly I don't know what the dynamic between her and Eteri is. And Eteri might sit in K&C stone-faced, but its not like she threw up her hands and walked off after Alina's performance. And she did hug her as she came off the ice.

Evgenia and Alina are 2 different people - and it is up to the coach to figure out if "carrot or stick" is the best way to motivate.

What works well for one may not work for the other. The fact that they both have done so well under Eteri tells me a lot.

 

[Scott512]

Just a couple months ago the whole staff was praising Zhenya’s work ethic. And I haven’t heard Zhenya once blame others for not winning (aside from the alleged Eteri quote).

Alina will be the test to see if she has the ability to train seniors and achieve longevity. I’m worried about Alina because that is a lot of pressure placed on her and I’m not she is currently mentally strong enough for that kind of constant pressure.

Zhenya did not publicly blame anyone but privately there was alot going on and I have no doubt she was tired hearing about Alina. Med was also mad Eteri gave Alina the most difficult highest scoring back loaded program which ended up costing Zhenya her olympic gold medal.