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Is that 5'4" tall?
Alina Zagitova
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Is that 5'4" tall?
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Yes it is. Obviously wrong of course.
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What about a fully backload SP and fully front load FS to give some balance lessons to ISU?
Yes!
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Re-uploaded the image to another hosting site, see it this works now https://cdn1.imggmi.com/uploads/2018/6/7/f9a668e34ec2704de25ff7d1d5177ddc-full.png
Oh thanks so much!
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Honestly, Alina can be proud of herself!She‘s got the whole skating world so afraid of her, they even come up with a new rule change. I love that she‘s just 16 and has already got one of the biggest rule changes ever named after her. (Even if it‘s still not the official name, I‘m sure people will remember the „Zagitova Rule“ in the future and the little girl in the red tutu who caused it) And it‘s also kind of obvious how they try to make her „less dangerous“ by devaluating the loop jump.
I‘m so excited for her FP! I‘m no particular fan of Phantom of the Opera as a skating music but I‘m hoping for a more lyrical piece. She had two very energetic programs last season, let her show that she can pull off different styles as well. I think you couldn‘t really see it in DQ because it was just so packed with transitions but her spins are gorgeous and she‘s got really beautiful lines and postures. It would be great if she‘d be able to hold her positions longer. My major problem with DQ never was the backloading, it was the fact that everything seemed so rushed (very obvious contradiction to those who said they felt like in thefirst half nothing was happening) and busy. I would actually love to have her get Matilda. She‘d have a character to portray and I think that‘s a step she really needs in order to mature. DQ was fine, it was upbeat, energetic, full of fire and passion and very lively. But she didn‘t really have a story to tell. If she gets Matilda, she‘ll have to really live the story. I think it will greatly help her improve her artistry. She has everything she needs, she just needs some programs who are a bit more grown up (remember that while DQ was very physically demanding, it still technically is a junior program) to show other sides of her skating. It doesn‘t have to be something really melancholic, Zhenya-style like but something a bit more calm would be fine. So, yeah. I‘m favouring Matilda.
I don't know anything about "Matilda" so I don't have an opinion, but everything else you posted I agree with 100%.
And you stated it so beautifully also.
I think the changes in the scoring system will be the best thing for her development as a skater.
And to those people that were "bored" by the spins and step sequences I say stop with the
It was only 2 minutes - these people must have the worst case of ADHD in history!!!!
Over the many seasons I have had to endure:
countless "overdramatic" facial contortions --- where you can't tell if its agony or ecstasy.
in the 2000's countless cookie-cutter Morozov style footwork sequences where they have the dramatic pause to set up and then "swashbuckle" from one end of the rink to the other.
countless "lame" attempts by skaters trying to imitate Michelle Kwan's spiral sequences.
forced attempts at "artistry" and "drama" with rapturous looks to the heavens. (the music "Muse" comes to mind)
true artists like John Curry could almost literally paint pictures on the ice but 99% of these attempts just come off as contrived.
But....
2 minutes of a young lady in a tutu doing spins and footwork before jumping sends you snowflakes to the fainting couch.
I agree,I love daniil but want to see Alina try different choreo,maybe alina should hire Lori Nichol she was amazing and i love almost all of her choreography on carolina.
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I don't know anything about "Matilda" so I don't have an opinion, but everything else you posted I agree with 100%.
And to those people that were "bored" by the spins and step sequences I say stop with the
I totally agree. And the same people were like "we want more artistry, we do not care about jumps and all", so that's a little bit contradictory
I've taken that playlist and listened the Matilda song...and I really liked it, I was sure that's what I wanted for Alina. And then I've heard the tango one and now I am undecided
Both songs could bring a new way of artistic expression for her, and of course, of development. Maybe one will be the free program, and the other the EX, and then I will be happy 
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I totally agree. And the same people were like "we want more artistry, we do not care about jumps and all", so that's a little bit contradictory
I've taken that playlist and listened the Matilda song...and I really liked it, I was sure that's what I wanted for Alina. And then I've heard the tango one and now I am undecided
Do you guys think she‘ll get a new EX? I‘m a bit torn on that to be honest. She‘ll have two completely new programs to adjust to, instead of just one like last season. Maybe she‘ll do her SP as her EX program as she already used it sometimes? I wouldn‘t mind, I like the black swan, it‘s very dramatic and suitable for an exhibition, too. But if she gets a new one, I do hope for some tango. She showed she likes to do unusual exhibition programs and while I‘m not that much of a fan of her current EX, I love her to try different styles.
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Taking into account her growing popularity and number of ice shows she gets invited to, I tend to say yes..she will probably prepare a new EX. Until now her latest EX programs portrayed a type of cat (the pink panther, and the tiger one), and at first I was wondering which type of cat we will see this year. But it will be a year of grow and development, so probably her EX program will be different too
Maybe she'll leave the cats-world and try a dog-Akita-Masaru theme program, the japanese people will love it and the worlds are in japan anyway next year (*joking) I would love a tango EX program, and a lyrical free skate. That would be perfect for me :luv17:
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Taking into account her growing popularity and number of ice shows she gets invited to, I tend to say yes..she will probably prepare a new EX. Until now her latest EX programs portrayed a type of cat (the pink panther, and the tiger one), and at first I was wondering which type of cat we will see this year. But it will be a year of grow and development, so probably her EX program will be different too
Well, I‘d prefer to see a new EX, too but I also don‘t want her to have too much pressure on her. She tends to do very hard combinations even in her exhibition programs and I want her to be able to fully concentrate on her new competitive programs, that‘s why I said I wouldn‘t mind seeing the black swan again.
But I‘d love a Masaru themed program! :luv17: Didn‘t Mao do a program with her dog in her arms? Masaru will probably be too big once her new EX is finished but who knows, maybe they‘ll train her to stay on skates as well.
I‘d also love a lyrical free skate and a tango for the EX. That‘s what I‘m hoping for. Aaargh, come on, Eteri, Alina, Daniil, tell us some news already! Anticipation is killing us here!
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We should join forces and send them a letter. Or hope that Eteri (or Daniil) reads GS forum
Lol...good prediction. Guess this guy can see the future..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kWhMDx0Z-k&t=7m10s
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We should join forces and send them a letter. Or hope that Eteri (or Daniil) reads GS forum
Lol...good prediction. Guess this guy can see the future..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kWhMDx0Z-k&t=7m10s
Join forces, yes! But... just to send a letter? Who needs letters, we‘ll directly storm to Russia and demand news.
Well, there was about a 50:50 chance, she was going to get this OGM (no way, anyone else besides Zhenya could have beaten her or even come close to her!!) so... But I credit him that. Maybe we should send HIM a letter and ask about Alina‘s programs. He might be right again.
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Tonight is my personal fanfest .. if Sasha Ovechkin and Capitals wins a Stanley Cup,
I will happiest fan in the World !! Let's Go Cups !!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-r6MAafHDVU
I will happiest fan in the World !! Let's Go Cups !!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-r6MAafHDVU
Free Skate layout suggestion:
3S 2A 2A 2Lz+2Lo | 3Lz+3T+3Lo 3Lz+3Lo 3F
The difference between doing two 3Lo and two 3F has widened this season by .2 points to .4 points total... but switching out the 2T for a 2Lz gains .8 points. The point advantage of switching the 2T to 2Lz is about the exact same as doing the combination as the final element in the SP verses someone doing the double axel. TBH, i'm not really a fan of the aesthetics of the 3F+2T+2Lo. I do kind of wonder what doing 2Lz+2Lo on purpose would do for one's muscle memory.
There are some fun things you could do with this kind of jump layout. My favorite idea is to start the beginning like an old school program from the late 70s and then break out the big jumps.Or you could play off the 2Lz+2Lo as a mistake(I'm thinking of a Charlie Chaplin like program here) and then go for a 3Lz+3Lo... though it would look really bad if the 3Lz+3Lo didn't go as planned.
3S 2A 2A 2Lz+2Lo | 3Lz+3T+3Lo 3Lz+3Lo 3F
The difference between doing two 3Lo and two 3F has widened this season by .2 points to .4 points total... but switching out the 2T for a 2Lz gains .8 points. The point advantage of switching the 2T to 2Lz is about the exact same as doing the combination as the final element in the SP verses someone doing the double axel. TBH, i'm not really a fan of the aesthetics of the 3F+2T+2Lo. I do kind of wonder what doing 2Lz+2Lo on purpose would do for one's muscle memory.
There are some fun things you could do with this kind of jump layout. My favorite idea is to start the beginning like an old school program from the late 70s and then break out the big jumps.Or you could play off the 2Lz+2Lo as a mistake(I'm thinking of a Charlie Chaplin like program here) and then go for a 3Lz+3Lo... though it would look really bad if the 3Lz+3Lo didn't go as planned.
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Well, I just spent three days in The Edge threads and I can't anymore, it is destroying you personality. I couldn't help with those issues on the ISU congress to express my thoughts about it but not anymore. I'm back here with normal people and nice topics for discussion
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Yup the very one!!! (Daniil's playlist)
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I think that adding a 3F+3T would gain her the most (9.50 BV and 10.45 BV with 10% bonus). The 3F is the only triple that got an increased BV, no idea how that would go on an overall layout but it would be cool to do a combo with 3F. Edited to add the only combo involving 3F that she ever tried in competition was the 3F+3Lo which would be worth even more BV 11.20 and 12.32 with 10% bonus. It was at the 2017 GPFrance and she didn't nail it.
That said I calculated the BV for your layout and it is 48.91 (if she repeated this with the rest of the elements of her Dom Quixote) and would add up to a total BV 65.21.
Full Dom Quixote performed right now (with bonus only on 3 last jump passes) would have a total BV of 64.36 (considering the 10% on all 3 combo jumping passes, on her actual layout the last 3 jumps she performed were two solo triples and 1 double axel).
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