Home is where the heart is, where she can be close to friends and family is. It was not a declarative statement of allegiance.
2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating
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Home is where the heart is, where she can be close to friends and family is. It was not a declarative statement of allegiance.
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I work with and know very well a few Russian coaches and even though they’ve been here for nearly 20yrs Russia is their home. No doubt about it. They are Russian
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This is one of the most touching moments in figure skating for me. I'm not even Russian, but I'm deeply moved every time I watch it and hear the reaction from the crowd:I don't think a cap is such a big deal. I was wearing "Canada" t-shirt in Toronto and what? Doesn't make me a canadian.
Right now at the world cup foreigners wear russian t-shirts and other stuff, doesn't make them russians either.
I mean i'm also very critical to what Zhenya has done after Olympics, but let's not turn it into a complete ridiculousness
P.S. I wonder does Anna wear latvian cap sometimes?
https://youtu.be/ke0iusvydl8?t=337
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Yes, there is no reason for that. So the first assignments can be something like Trusova or Kostrornay and Alyona Kanisheva let's say.
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Ok, so just one month of waiting and then someone nice will hopefully post the junior test skates to YouTube. Just one.......more.........month.....
So, the top priority junior ladies usually get assigned to the first jgp?
Much like the senior GP, I don't think they will want to pit the top junior ladies against each other before the final. There are 14 spots available. I hope they will have a list of roughly 7 ladies who will receive 2 assignments with the goal to have 6 Russian juniors in the final. The "top" ladies will be assigned against the "bottom" ladies of that list.
Top: Trusova, Kostornaia, Tarakanova
Middle: Gubanova (could be reversed with Tarakanova depending on test skates)
Bottom: Tarusina, Shcherbakova, one of Kanysheva/Sinitsyna depending on test skates
Gubanova did not get any senior GPs so I assume she'll be trying for juniors again this year. So I believe we will see something like this:
Slovakia: Kostornaia, Gubanova
Austria: Trusova, Tarusina
Lithuania: Tarakanova, Kanysheva/Sinitsyna
Canada: Gubanova, Shcherbakova
Czech Republic: Trusova, Kanysheva/Sinitsyna
Slovenia: Kostornaia, Tarusina
Armenia: Tarakanova, Shcherbakova
Shcherbakova's spot likely depends on her test skates. If anyone finishes lower than 3rd (maybe second) in their first assignment, they will not get a second and the spot will go to a reserve. If this happens to two of the initial ladies that's two spots for a reserve.
The reserves will be the other of Kanysheva/Sinitsyna, Vasilieva, Gulyakova, Kostyuk, Nugamanova.
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Different strokes for different folks. I would say exactly the opposite - there is no proof she could deliver clean 1+6 because she never did. At Nepela it was not just an e call - it was also a shaky landing. Judges do not give her e call on lutz when everything else is perfect - maximum ! Here it was a good pretext - the jump looked bad. Also her signature 3S-3T although technically clean was way below her standard.
No she never skated 1+6 at the level she skated 2+5.
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Home is Russia. Period.
But I think that Spirals for Miles is right. She probably said that her mother - a piece of her family - would facilitate her stay in Canada.
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That's completely opposite to what she said. Like she'd say her fave colour is black and you claimed it's white.
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So Shcherbakova is not only at the bottom, but to even get there, she needs to show up big at test skates. Man, that's tough... :hopelessness:
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That's completely opposite to what she said. Like she'd say her fave colour is black and you claimed it's white.
Why does it seem so important to you to make a false claim that Zhenya is not proud of Russia, is not proud to be Russian, and does not feel Russian, when every single thing she has done since moving to Canada shows otherwise:scratch3: Well, it doesn't matter, since she is proud. Even I can see that, and I don't even follow the Russian ladies.
( Also does your avatar really say "shame, embarassment, go home" [ETA: also compromise, all from Bing Translate ]in Polish? I'm curious since I don't read Polish).
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This seems smart. However, I'm still hopeful that Gubanova will be announced earlier than normal as the host spot (and then both Kanysheva and Sinitsyna can compete on the JGP)
I also want them to realize that it is not a bad thing to have a silver medal at the first event, and that even with a first silver, they are still likely to make the final and so should assign them a second spot. If they hadn't played with Konstantinova and/or Fedichkina last year, Gulyakova could've gotten a second event and thus made the final all-Russian. This is what they should be going for -- an all-Russian JGPF. It shows their dominance, and that's what they want to show. This year's only really challengers are Nana Araki (Japan) and Young You (Korea) if she lands her 3A that she supposedly has (but might not even go into competition yet). Still, the Russians should easily be able to make an all-Russian final. While Araki is consistent, she doesn't have as high of a technical standard as they do, and while Young You has that 3A, she's extremely inconsistent.
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I'm just wondering why some fans twist her words, that's all. When a person says something, other people should treat those words as meaningful, shouldn't they? :think:
Rather "Embarassment. Disgrace. Dishonor." - it's a famous newspaper cover from the past, commenting the latest national team loss. It functions as a sport meme since then.
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I'm just wondering why some fans twist her words, that's all. When a person says something, other people should treat those words as meaningful, shouldn't they? :think:
Rather "Embarassment. Disgrace. Dishonor." - it's a famous newspaper cover from the past, commenting the latest national team loss. It functions as a sport meme since then.
Thank you for the explanation; I'm sorry they lost. My (American) football team lost for years and years and years, until they won, so I feel your pain.
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Are you talking about last season? Because there was no e call by the 2+5 layout when everything else was also not perfect.
Yes 1+6 leftover did not look like 2+5 Worlds 2017 but enough to call it "to pull it of" and "clean" (without the 3lz ofc).
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You know what? Wherever she's happy and finds a purpose is ultimately what matters. Her home should be wherever her heart leads her to. If it's Russia? Fine. Canada? Great. Some hut in the middle of a rainforest? So be it. She's Evgenia, the individual, first and foremost.
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For JGP assignments I think people are forgetting about Vasilieva. She beat Tarakanova, Kanysheva, Sisnitsyna, Shcherbakova, Kostyuk etc at Junior Nationals.
So for me it would indicate that ranking of the juniors prior to test skates will be.
1. Trusova
2. Kostornaya
3. Gubanova (but she is 50:50 going senior)
4. Vasilieva
5. Tarakanova (probably ahead of Gubanova/Vasilieva if healthy given success on the international circuit....she's the only skater I can think of who was scored more harshly at nationals than at a major international comp)
6. Tarusina
7. Kanysheva (I've put her behind Tarusina because she's only a first year junior)
8. Shcherbakova (Again she is ahead of Sinitsyna because Sinitsyna is only a first year junior)
9. Sinitsyna
10. Chistyakova (is apparently not very special/doesn't have amazing results but she is on the same funding level as Sinitsyna and Shcherbakova)
11. Kostyuk (might get bumped up above Sinitsyna/Chistyakova as this is technically her second junior year and she did beat Shecherbakova at Junior Nats)
12. Gulyakova (will most likely skate senior but technically could appear)
Of course once test skates happen these rankings will probably change a lot. For example Vasilieva last year was on the initial JGP team however they bumped her for Kostornaya after Kostornaya did very, very well at test skates.
So for me it would indicate that ranking of the juniors prior to test skates will be.
1. Trusova
2. Kostornaya
3. Gubanova (but she is 50:50 going senior)
4. Vasilieva
5. Tarakanova (probably ahead of Gubanova/Vasilieva if healthy given success on the international circuit....she's the only skater I can think of who was scored more harshly at nationals than at a major international comp)
6. Tarusina
7. Kanysheva (I've put her behind Tarusina because she's only a first year junior)
8. Shcherbakova (Again she is ahead of Sinitsyna because Sinitsyna is only a first year junior)
9. Sinitsyna
10. Chistyakova (is apparently not very special/doesn't have amazing results but she is on the same funding level as Sinitsyna and Shcherbakova)
11. Kostyuk (might get bumped up above Sinitsyna/Chistyakova as this is technically her second junior year and she did beat Shecherbakova at Junior Nats)
12. Gulyakova (will most likely skate senior but technically could appear)
Of course once test skates happen these rankings will probably change a lot. For example Vasilieva last year was on the initial JGP team however they bumped her for Kostornaya after Kostornaya did very, very well at test skates.
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Are you talking about last season? Because there was no e call by the 2+5 layout when everything else was also not perfect.
Yes 1+6 leftover did not look like 2+5 Worlds 2017 but enough to call it "to pull it of" and "clean" (without the 3lz ofc).
I can't remember her bad 3lz landings with 2+5 last season. Medvedeva had been famous for her consistency with 2A being the main challlenge. For that she had to be confident. She was not confident at test skates 2017, she did not look confident at Nepela. I can't remember if she said that it was her decision to switch back by I do remember she said she enjoyed skating to Karenina and she said that at OG she forgot everything and gave all of herself to the performance. Of course, it is much easier to do with the tech content you know by heart over all those years.
I do not claim that she is uncapable of 1+6 or 0+7. I just say that she never showed perfect performance with a tougher layout and it is highly likely that the decision to switch back was hers or joint rather than Eteri's games.
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Come on. You attacking her too much. These are sophisticated concepts - home, Home, Motherland.That's completely opposite to what she said. Like she'd say her fave colour is black and you claimed it's white.
a) She does not speak English well, b) it's cheap, shallow video for millions foreigners who do not care about this stuff.
If I were in her place I would also say something like that - "Russia still in first place. I'm not a cry baby - I can be patient for a business. And everything is not so bad - mom will be near. And Toronto as far as I know it's not a trash box, so everything is okay." She said kind of same thing, but more girly and diplomatically - yes, she like to be liked (correct translation?)
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can't wait until the eventual nuclear bomb of a book/interview/whatever is dropped about all of this. idk for sure yet what Eteri's angle was, but her saying she didn't know how Evgenia lost and that they were still analyzing the scores, I think, is what's causing this whole argument to continue. It's not a multiple months long mystery as to why Alina won.
(good for Alina, btw! :2thumbsSimilar threads
