2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating

[moriel]

hmmm in the https://tass.ru/sport/5583422 they said that the "agreement to leave the country" was not correctly done.
My guess is that this is the documents where her parents allow her to travel, since she is a minor. I am not entirely sure how it works (when i was a kid, im pretty sure my biological father signed it once, and then i traveled with the same document from when i was 10 to when i was 18).

in Russia, at least, there is a whole bunch of different border officials, including some that were letting me to go in and out with a not valid passport, and the other extreme where the guy fined me for using my brazillian passport instead of my russian passport to enter the country. So i can imagine all sort of stuff happening. Also no, they dont care who you are, some are just trademark bureocrats.

 

[Spirals for Miles]

So I guess if there really are document problems, she obviously couldn't have gotten into Bratislava, so then how was she seen there? Or was she maybe not seen there?

 

[atsumiri]

Hmm, if she was indeed spotted in Bratislava already, then it couldn't really be a document problem. With document problems she would've not been able to enter the EU. But whatever it is, hope all is ok with her!

it's not a visa problem. consent for departure — it means permission from her parents to travel abroad alone or with another persons ( because she is 16).
Maybe they didn't renew the permit. Or just a single misspelled or mistyped word can cause a problem.

 

[Hello from Brazil]

Perhaps she needed a visa or a specific document to enter Slovakia

 

[atsumiri]

So I guess if there really are document problems, she obviously couldn't have gotten into Bratislava, so then how was she seen there? Or was she maybe not seen there?

from Alina's thread.

I'm from Czech Republic so I understand Slovak language and I found article a while before where they write that whole russian group will come today evening.

 

[MalAssada]

During my first international travel, my young brother, then 11, wasn't allowed in the US for sharing a name with a drug dealer. He was 11! We travelled again this year and it seems the person was arrested, because he was let in. Frontiers can, and probably will, be tricky.

 

[TGee]

So I guess if there really are document problems, she obviously couldn't have gotten into Bratislava, so then how was she seen there? Or was she maybe not seen there?

Alina posted a tongue-in-cheek photo with her dog with the ironic caption 'went to Bratislava!'

Glad she's able take it in fun now she's back home.

 

[Netta]

Sad news. This event was appropriate to start season for Alina and polish programms before JO team competiton. Hope a lot it's really only issue with documents not the health problem.

 

[Hello from Brazil]

Maybe they can send her to the Nebelhorn trophy

 

[moriel]

During my first international travel, my young brother, then 11, wasn't allowed in the US for sharing a name with a drug dealer. He was 11! We travelled again this year and it seems the person was arrested, because he was let in. Frontiers can, and probably will, be tricky.

yep, and its also never regular. You can travel 10 times with the very same documents, and then, on 10th, they will find something they don't like, like a typo or whatever and youre not allowed to go, period.

 

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Now the info is that she had to WD because her travel documents weren't filled out correctly, but that seems totally bizarre. I mean she's been competing internationally for 2 years, how does that just happen?
https://tass.ru/sport/5583422

In Russia when a minor leaves the country she should have a written consent from both parents. They give it for one year. Alina might have forgot about the expiration date. Things like that happen. When we returned to Moscow from Sochi with our kids we forgot to bring their birth certificates along. It took me all my charm and eloqency to talk the police into letting us into the plane.

 

[cohen-esque]

During my first international travel, my young brother, then 11, wasn't allowed in the US for sharing a name with a drug dealer. He was 11! We travelled again this year and it seems the person was arrested, because he was let in. Frontiers can, and probably will, be tricky.

This is even a problem on domestic US flights; we’ve had senators who weren’t allowed to fly because they had the same name as somebody else. I don’t see how that specifically would apply to Slovakia, but international travel is tricky and sometimes the stuff that happens is just bizzare. I go between the US and Canada, and got held up and questioned at the border once for almost an hour because they demanded to know why I was in Canada, and then to see my Canadian visa, and then decided my visa was suspicious... all while I was entering the US and with a US passport.

 

[cell]

And now Zag's father is saying he wasn't aware documents weren't in order.. Hmmm something smells fishy to me about this

 

[moriel]

I see nothing fishy about it.

When you travel a lot, you eventually see a lot of totally random things happening on border control. Sometimes they are just weird and pick on something totally silly like bad writing or a typo or just something entirely unrelated, and it is very hard to override their decisions.

 

[cell]

Yes but the reason given is not a typo but lack of parental consent documents..which he says he isn't aware of

 

[atsumiri]

Yes but the reason given is not a typo but lack of parental consent documents..which he says he isn't aware of

no. not lack of parental consent documents. But some mistakes in this document. "document has been formalized incorrectly" https://www.fsrussia.ru/news/3901-o...urnire-ondrej-nepela-trophy-v-bratislave.html

 

[Spirals for Miles]

Yes but the reason given is not a typo but lack of parental consent documents..which he says he isn't aware of

No, just that something was wrong with them. Could be anything from a typo to not filling out a line by mistake or really anything.

 

[TGee]

Maybe they can send her to the Nebelhorn trophy

Entries are long since closed.

But it's surprising that no Russian ladies are entered for Nebelhorn at al.

And Alina isn't listed as a sub for Finlandia, so that leaves her out of another Challenger opportunity before GP season starts.

 

[Spirals for Miles]

Entries are long since closed.

But it's surprising that no Russian ladies are entered for Nebelhorn at al.

And Alina isn't listed as a sub for Finlandia, so that leaves her out of another Challenger opportunity before GP season starts.

She's not listed as a Finlandia sub because it conflicts with Japan Open
And... Tutkamysheva and Samodurova weren't on the Lombardia list initially, as participants or as subs. They were still added. Perhaps Alina can still get Nebelhorn if someone else needs to withdraw.

 

[katymay]

I see nothing fishy about it.

When you travel a lot, you eventually see a lot of totally random things happening on border control. Sometimes they are just weird and pick on something totally silly like bad writing or a typo or just something entirely unrelated, and it is very hard to override their decisions.

Normally, I wouldn't either, it happens. But I think there is more to the story, and I'm a bit skeptical.. I don't think Alina is 100% ready to go for one thing. which wouldn't be an issue except she is the reigning Olympic champion, and more is expected of her. It seems to me, that as famous as she is, even if there was a defect, it could be corrected in time for her to compete. It would seem that Slovakia would find a way to recitify the situation, after all, her name sells tickets and puts the butts in the seats.