2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating

[sx98423]

Of the 3A, I feel that Shcherbakova will lose her jumps first after puberty. She really twerks her body sometimes into those jumps. I believe that Team Eteri will do everything they can to hold off the puberty but it will eventually come. Maybe even by next season in her senior debut.

judging by her body right now it seems like she'll grow up to be like lilbet. she looks very very skinny which is usually just genetics. i could see her getting taller but i don't really see her growing out all that much

 

[Bluediamonds09]

judging by her body right now it seems like she'll grow up to be like lilbet. she looks very very skinny which is usually just genetics. i could see her getting taller but i don't really see her growing out all that much

Possibly. And that means she’ll remain competitive.

 

[Scott512]

Of the 3A, I feel that Shcherbakova will lose her jumps first after puberty. She really twerks her body sometimes into those jumps. I believe that Team Eteri will do everything they can to hold off the puberty but it will eventually come. Maybe even by next season in her senior debut.

How can Eteri hold off puberty? Shes not God. Hmmm. Only ice chips?

 

[skatenewbie]

So with that a bit messy FS, Liza will be doing Cup Final too? Or just Universiade? Cup Final is next week, hopefully she can have a rest!

 

[melgirl25]

So with that a bit messy FS, Liza will be doing Cup Final too? Or just Universiade? Cup Final is next week, hopefully she can have a rest!

I think there will be some announcement this week if she is doing Russia Cup. I have read in some places she is though.

 

[zounger]

So at the moment the team looks to be Sofia, Alina, Evgenia. The medals probably will start at +215. This is doable only by Alina and Evgenia. Liza is a question mark as it seems.

 

[malya]

So at the moment the team looks to be Sofia, Alina, Evgenia. The medals probably will start at +215. This is doable only by Alina and Evgenia. Liza is a question mark as it seems.

Where does this come from again after a mediocre first skate after illness from Liza?? Let's wait...

Sofia, btw, so far has a seasons best of 213.84 at the EC - which includes a tech call on her 3Lz.
If you look at what the other ladies showed at Europeans and 4CC she would get silver...

 

[LenaRadiFan]

So at the moment the team looks to be Sofia, Alina, Evgenia. The medals probably will start at +215. This is doable only by Alina and Evgenia. Liza is a question mark as it seems.

Wait why is Evgenia suddenly pretty much set but Liza isn't? The most arguably both are a question mark but Evgenia is def not more set than Liza lol that would be insanity by rusfed

 

[zounger]

Where does this come from again after a mediocre first skate after illness from Liza?? Let's wait...

Sofia, btw, so far has a seasons best of 213.84 at the EC - which includes a tech call on her 3Lz.
If you look at what the other ladies showed at Europeans and 4CC she would get silver...

I think we are doing just a conversion here. This is how I see it at the moment.

As for Sofia: Why do you think she will not get similar call at worlds? The silver at 207 points is without Alina, Satoko etc. plus an unexpected skate from Kaori which has the potential to score +220.

 

[Spirals for Miles]

I think we are doing just a conversion here. This is how I see it at the moment.

As for Sofia: Why do you think she will not get similar call at worlds? The silver at 207 points is without Alina, Satoko etc. plus an unexpected skate from Kaori which has the potential to score +220.

Because Sofia didn't get it at all throughout the season, so it's definitely not guaranteed to get called on a regular basis
The important thing to me is her momentum. Her scores have been significantly rising throughout the season to get that 213.84 - so who's to say they won't increase more at Worlds? If contenders falter, like at 4CC, we could see her be a dark horse for a medal.

 

[sx98423]

So at the moment the team looks to be Sofia, Alina, Evgenia. The medals probably will start at +215. This is doable only by Alina and Evgenia. Liza is a question mark as it seems.

realistically stasya would be way more likely than zhenya if liza's not going

 

[Klarnet]

So at the moment the team looks to be Sofia, Alina, Evgenia. The medals probably will start at +215. This is doable only by Alina and Evgenia. Liza is a question mark as it seems.

Liza is a risk,but she still can make it to 220,and Evgenia would not. They both can bomb but triple axel is more worth risking.

 

[VenusHalley]

Well besides Sofia everybody is risk. And Sofia's PCS were bit low...

 

[zounger]

Well besides Sofia everybody is risk. And Sofia's PCS were bit low...

That's why I think, if Liza doesn't improve drastically from what she showed in Dragon Trophy, Alina and Evgenia are the best choices. Sofia is there to secure a top 10, then you have two wildcards than can medal. The probability at least one of them to have a good skate is high. In that way you can "secure" 3 spots for next season.

If you send Stanislava, who's best skate is similar to Alina's or Evgenia's worse, point wise, the risk of loosing 3 spots is increasing.

And the above is for me who thinks that ideally the team should be Alina, Sofia/Liza, Stanislava. But this no how the decision are made.

 

[malya]

For me, Sofia is a serious medal contender at Worlds even with her 'realistic' 215pts score ceiling... but who knows, there have been some weird scores this season already

That's why I think, if Liza doesn't improve drastically from what she showed in Dragon Trophy, Alina and Evgenia are the best choices. Sofia is there to secure a top 10, then you have two wildcards than can medal. The probability at least one of them to have a good skate is high. In that way you can "secure" 3 spots for next season.

If you send Stanislava, who's best skate is similar to Alina's or Evgenia's worse, point wise, the risk of loosing 3 spots is increasing.

And the above is for me who thinks that ideally the team should be Alina, Sofia/Liza, Stanislava. But this no how the decision are made.

It's hard to say anything about Zhenya before the Cup Final.
She could still have her programs choreographicly-toned-down and even then struggle severly with her jumps like at RusNats.
Or she could also show severly improved programs with more content, clean jumps (Lutz excepted, nobody expects that ) and decent spins...

I don't know which Zhenya shows up, but both have completely different chances for the team
I'd take both Stasya and recovering Liza over the first one, the second one is a serious contender and should only be beaten by cleanish Liza with her 3As regained.

Can somebody announce the participants of the Cup Final already? I'm nervous!!

 

[Tolstoj]

That's why I think, if Liza doesn't improve drastically from what she showed in Dragon Trophy, Alina and Evgenia are the best choices. Sofia is there to secure a top 10, then you have two wildcards than can medal. The probability at least one of them to have a good skate is high. In that way you can "secure" 3 spots for next season.

If you send Stanislava, who's best skate is similar to Alina's or Evgenia's worse, point wise, the risk of loosing 3 spots is increasing.

And the above is for me who thinks that ideally the team should be Alina, Sofia/Liza, Stanislava. But this no how the decision are made.

Imho Elizaveta, Alina, Sofia is hands down the best team possible.

Alina Zagitova is the Olympic Champion, most recent competitions were disappointing for her but she showed she can skate clean this season.

Elizaveta Tuktamysheva has the most difficult programs among the russians, she always delivered good performances this season and always medalled.

Sofia Samodurova is the most consistent one, the one you can always rely on and she is in a very good momentum.

The other two aren't as consistent and received lower scores so far (because of the mistakes), Stanislava also doesn't have big personal best, she wouldn't have many chances to medal (despite i like her), while Evgenia has a reputation but performances have been a bit subpar this season because of many reasons, we'll see at the Cup Final.

 

[Lechat]

Hmmmmm Liza is not in a good shape yet and it would be risky but there’s still time before the worlds. If zhenia can skate clean in both SP and Free she can win the third spot. Stazya is way too inconsistent but if she can handle her nerves she could be a serious contender.

 

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That's why I think, if Liza doesn't improve drastically from what she showed in Dragon Trophy, Alina and Evgenia are the best choices. Sofia is there to secure a top 10, then you have two wildcards than can medal. The probability at least one of them to have a good skate is high. In that way you can "secure" 3 spots for next season.

If you send Stanislava, who's best skate is similar to Alina's or Evgenia's worse, point wise, the risk of loosing 3 spots is increasing.

And the above is for me who thinks that ideally the team should be Alina, Sofia/Liza, Stanislava. But this no how the decision are made.

At this point I assume that 3 skaters are competing for 1 spot: Liza, Zhenya, and Stasya. Liza had a chance to get it easy if she skated to her full potential last weekend. She did not. With 188 she crossed out whatever body of work she had had before. Now it's a clean slate.

Stasya is at the mercy of big time bombing of Zhenya and Liza at Cup of Russia. I mean Zhenya's and Liza's scoring below 190 while Stasya scores above 200. Then she might be in.

But something tells me that it may be the redemption moment for Zhenya. She will have 2 clean performances and score 215 - 220 to build a strong case for the team. Alina, Sofia, Zhenya will be an interesting combination. Hope, their competing side by side won't put an extra pressure on Zhenya and Alina. And hope that the media will be wiser not putting gasoline into the fire.

As for 3 spots, there are no safe configurations for anyone, Japan included. Rika might have issues with axels, Satoko is called mercilessly for her URs, Kaori could not get 4CC podium. So, anything is possible and I don't think that whoever is the third Russian skater she means big risks. I would think that at least 2 of the 3 will deliver.

 

[LenaRadiFan]

The fact that the gap between Lizas worst score(188) is closer to Zhenyas best(197) than between Zheynas best and Lizas best(215) internationally, makes me wonder why Zhenya should have an advantage over her. Liza really only had one "bad" overall skate, where she didn't have any major falls, while as Zhenya had how many two clwan skates at one competition this season? 0? Exactly. So, I do think if we go anything by "the skaters need to earn it in the season and not because of past achievements" no, Zhenya should not be on the team this season and it's deservandly Lizas(but we do know people like to have double standards when it comes to their favorites )

 

[skatingfan200]

Gorshkov gave an interview after Europeans. It may be for some interesting.

“The procedure for determining the composition has long been known and was published on the website of the federation even after the Russian championship in December,” Gorshkov noted. - It says that according to the results of the tournament held in Saransk, the executive committee approved the composition of the national team for the European Championship and Universiade. At the World Championships, candidates for the team will be determined based on the results of performances at the European championship, and for substitutes - at other competitions. This is either the Universiade (figure skating competitions will be held in Krasnoyarsk from 5 to 9 March - approx. Team Russia), or the Russian Cup final. The All-Russian Coaching Council will take all this into account and make a list, which will be given to the executive committee of the federation.

- Olympic champion Alexey Urmanov believes that at the Russian Cup final, it would be possible to organize additional control skates in men's and women's single skating.

- This is his opinion. Everyone has the right to their own point of view and can express it. I repeat - before February 25, an application list for the World Cup will be formed, taking into account the recommendations of the coaching council. Who will consider the results of the team's performance at the European Championships and the participation of spare, as well as those athletes who wish to do so, at the Russian Cup final in Novgorod or the Universiade.

https://teamrussia.pro/news/novosti/aleksandr-gorshkov-sostav-na-chempionat-mira-opredelitsya-posle-kubka-rossii-zagitova-samodurova-tukatmysheva-kto-poedet-na-chempionat-mira-2019/

Can somebody announce the participants of the Cup Final already? I'm nervous!!

I think the list will come out at the end of this week

The decision on the participation of Elizaveta Tuktamysheva in the Russian Cup final will be taken by the athlete herself, along with her coach Alexei Mishin. As a source in the Russian Figure Skating Federation told Russia about Sport Day after Day, there is no question of any wild card. The 22-year-old athlete this season has reached the Grand Prix finals, which gives her the right to freely apply for the tournament in Veliky Novgorod, which will be held from February 18 to 22. The figure skater must report her decision to the Figure Skating Federation of Sports before the end of the week

https://www.sportsdaily.ru/news/tuktamyshevoj-ne-nuzhen-wild-card-final-kubka-rossii-projdet-bez-ucheniczy-mishina