2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating

[*~RussianBleux~*]

Stanislava's 3Lo was <<.

If this is a joke its not funny.

 

[andromache]

Gubanova wuzrobbed.

I am an Evgenia stan, but I stand by the above sentiment. Quality jumps, spins, program, skating - Gubanova had it all.

The LP is going to be a bloodbath.

 

[*~RussianBleux~*]

Gubanova wuzrobbed.

I am an Evgenia stan, but I stand by the above sentiment. Quality jumps, spins, program, skating - Gubanova had it all.

The LP is going to be a bloodbath.

The judging of this event is ridiculous and shammy.

 

[Jontor]

So far to me it looks like no matter how anyone skates, they're still making it be a competition only between Zhenya, Liza and Stasya. Also, damn it Stasya why can't you pull yourself together like this outside of Russia. I enjoyed this so much.

For me, it's criminal that Gubanova is not in the lead. And I think she was the only one that got level 4 on the Step Sequence? Ah well, hopefully she has a good skate tomorrow and as a result they give ger 15 GP assignments next year.:luv17:

 

[SkateSkates]

Gubanova wuzrobbed.

I am an Evgenia stan, but I stand by the above sentiment. Quality jumps, spins, program, skating - Gubanova had it all.

The LP is going to be a bloodbath.

Gubanova was on the attack today. I would have had her slightly above Evgenia due to her higher tech score. I really don’t understand the low PCS...hoping she can have a clean LP and grab the host pick GP spot next season.

 

[Ophelia]

We can always count on Russia for bringing the DRAMA we want and deserve.

 

[Azikin]

Gubanova was on the attack today. I would have had her slightly above Evgenia due to her higher tech score. I really don’t understand the low PCS...hoping she can have a clean LP and grab the host pick GP spot next season.

Medvedeva overscored and Gubanova underscored is hardly anything new...

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

So far to me it looks like no matter how anyone skates, they're still making it be a competition only between Zhenya, Liza and Stasya. Also, damn it Stasya why can't you pull yourself together like this outside of Russia. I enjoyed this so much.

This....all of this!!

 

[SkateSkates]

Medvedeva overscored and Gubanova underscored is hardly anything new...

I personally didn’t have a problem with Zhenya’s scores (although 2A could’ve been called under). My problem is more with Gubanova’s scores being too low.

 

[Vandevska]

The judging of this event is ridiculous and shammy.

I mean.... Is it any worse than nationals or any other one?

 

[Ophelia]

Gubanova wuzrobbed.

I am an Evgenia stan, but I stand by the above sentiment. Quality jumps, spins, program, skating - Gubanova had it all.

The LP is going to be a bloodbath.

I don't see it, esp not with that program.

 

[Skater Boy]

Has Evgenia changed her sp? Is she now doing the loop instead of the lutz? Music change - she looked pretty good here.

 

[VenusHalley]

Is there a link to official results and protocols?

 

[Ophelia]

Is the FS at the same time tmrw?

 

[Lachinka]

I personally didn’t have a problem with Zhenya’s scores (although 2A could’ve been called under). My problem is more with Gubanova’s scores being too low.

Absolutely. I couldnt agree more. Gubanova deserved higher PCS, but, still, I wouldnt put her over Konstatinova. So I guess the SP result is not that invalid.

 

[Tolstoj]

Is there a link to official results and protocols?

https://www.fsrussia.ru/results/1819/cor1819/SEG003.HTM

https://www.fsrussia.ru/results/1819/cor1819/eMC_K_Scores.pdf

 

[Elucidus]

Stanislava's 3Lo was <<.

If this is a joke its not funny.

Not only that - her 3T was under too. And they definitely were rewatching it in slo-mo repeats - so it was impossible to not notice it (atleast 3Lo UR).Talking about judges favoritism ) On other hand the panel there was very lenient overall - Vasilieva's and Tarusina's wrong edges weren't called as well, so..

 

[*~RussianBleux~*]

Has Evgenia changed her sp? Is she now doing the loop instead of the lutz? Music change - she looked pretty good here.

Yes and Yes. No Lutz in the short. I much prefer this new short for her and she looked really nice.

 

[Vilord]

If you want to analyse the motion of a skater in the air, you have to decompose their motion into three parts: translational motion of the centre of mass horizontally and vertically, and rotation about the rotation axis (I'm assuming the rotation axis itself isn't changing, otherwise we have more pressing concerns to deal with).

For jumps, the horizontal translational motion doesn't actually affect the force upon landing that much, because the ice is slippery, so a decent landing will lose little speed. Thus, we only need to consider the other two. Quads necessarily rotate faster, and to be able to stick a landing, you have to kill the rotational speed instantly, so faster rotation means more force on the legs is needed. The vertical velocity depends on the height; if you jump higher (and not all quads are higher than the corresponding triples), then of course you'll hit the ground harder. However, the difference in height between a quad and a triple usually isn't that great, whereas the rotational velocity increases dramatically.

So, overall, yes, quads will hurt more than triples, but this is mostly due to increased rotation and not increased height.

While this is true for a jump that is landed Im not so sure of jump that ends with a fall. Some quadfalls hit the ice really unfortunately and the blade gets stuck on the ice while the upper body of the skater continues to rotate (like Krasnozhon at junior worlds last year) which puts verry high strain on the ankle and lower leg due to the high rotational force required for quads and a similair fall on a tripple or double would have considerably less strain.
Another type of fall is when the blade doesnt get stuck in the ice but the skater fall of it emediately on inpact and the skater sort of slides and spins on the ice (or does an extra hop but manages to stay on their feet) in these cases the rotational speed as well as horisontal speed helps cushion the fall a bit and the impact is mostly due to the vertical speed which as discussed above usualy is similair between quads and tripples.

Many falls fall somewhere in between the two categories I set up and then a bit of both applies. I also think that skaters who can jump quads often jump higher than skaters who dont so their falls on tripples may be wors than skaters who cant jump quads

 

[theharleyquinn]

I personally didn’t have a problem with Zhenya’s scores (although 2A could’ve been called under). My problem is more with Gubanova’s scores being too low.

Her 2A technique is still really spotty.