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I've just seen it. She also blocked comments on this post...
This is a mess, honestly.
2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating
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I've just seen it. She also blocked comments on this post...
This is a mess, honestly.
Are skaters now pitching themselves via social media?
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Everybody had many chances during the season and only a few fulfilled it (chances, predictions, fan wishes) and literally everybody failed soimetimes, somebody more often, somebody less. Maybe if there would exist clear system by what could be the team chosen than OK (like "no less than two medals/4th spot at int. comp plus no worse than lets say 6th place at rusnats - this is just an example but I hope it is clear what I'm trying to say). But as no such clear system exists, it is better to have this justification (rusnats results) than anything else.
To me, from all (bad or worse) scenarios (there is no total win-win situation) I consider this as the most reasonable, because every objection could be easily dissmissed by "we just follow the rusnats results, that's our key." In any other case they would have to explain why this skater is out and this in, which would never satisfy the fans (and those behind) of those who were out, because that would be always very vague.
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wow, she really expects to go to Worlds
poor Liza is screwed
i don't think this should be interpreted as she expects to go. that's not how i read it.
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wow, she really expects to go to Worlds
poor Liza is screwed
Yep, and comments like this one are exactly why she turned them off on her post.
desperation at its finest.
Whatever works!
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The RusFed is either 1) really unable make a final decision (due to politiking) and buying more time by this move
or) the decision is already made but is going to be so unpopular that it was deemed wise to leave the announcement till the very last moment, like 30 min before the warm-up
One thing I'd bet on is that there will be one or even two replacements
or) the decision is already made but is going to be so unpopular that it was deemed wise to leave the announcement till the very last moment, like 30 min before the warm-up
One thing I'd bet on is that there will be one or even two replacements
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No, she hopes to go to Worlds.wow, she really expects to go to Worlds
poor Liza is screwed
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I know right? This is absurd.
Konstatinova has one more chance in proving her self for the worlds spot at Universiade after failing Euros and Rus Cup. Ofcouse the one person that can beat her at Universiade was replaced by the much weaker 2nd alternate. They overlooked the 1st alternate since she can crush Konstatinova easily. Question, Aside from “injury” what other vaid reasons Russia can use if they chance the worlds line-up. I dont think ISU will be thrilled if they use the injury card loosely.
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Liza hyped herself on social media all year so your point is? They always make comments for newspapers too
Lakernik already said that is not russia's final lineup, it's fine with the ISU.
Whenever Liza decides to retire, i think she has dealt soo much of this nonsense over the years (not just now) that i wouldn't be surprised if one day she decides to call out everyone in interviews, literally trashing the Federation because she's often being victim of this stupid process in Russia, and most importantly calling out the politics and shady deals in the background.
I don't think she will do it, considering she may continue to work as coach as often Mishin former skaters do, but she has all the rights to do it.
If she does, i'd personally go to western media just to make even more noise in the FS community.
I don't think she will do it, considering she may continue to work as coach as often Mishin former skaters do, but she has all the rights to do it.
If she does, i'd personally go to western media just to make even more noise in the FS community.
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Imo, they shouldn't think about satisfying the fans but about their best chances to medal and most importantly, to keep the three spots for next year. That's why they should choose the three girls that are the best bets to fulfill this criteria. Maybe that's not fair but they really need those spots for next year when they'll have all these current girls + 3A. And, logically, there is no reason to send Stanislava other than her performance at Russian Nationals. Which isn't enough, in my opinion at least.
We have: Alina who is still the WR holder for the FS. If she is clean, she can win the gold. She isn't as much of a safe bet because of her recent struggles but she has the biggest scoring potential for all the ladies they're actively considering. She has medals from every international competition she participated in this season and her recent Euros scores have showed that she will still get very high PCS, even with a not so optimal performance. Unless she is injured or in any way not able to go, nothing would speak against naming her to the team.
Then we have Sofia, who despite being the one no one would have guessed at the beginning of the season, has been the most consistent of these ladies the whole season long. She is solid and can be counted on to deliver, even if others fail. Her scores have been gradually rising and now that she's EC, she will probably also get more PCS. The only thing that would speak against her, is that she's a relatively new skater and would probably not be able to skate in the last warm-up group due to not being as high in the World standings. Imo, the pro clearly outweighs the cons, so the second spot should be hers.
Last spot should be decided between Liza and Zhenya. I know many will disagree but I do think that there are legitimate reasons that would justify sending Zhenya.
Liza has the higher TES score. She has the 3A, however, she is very dependent on them as she does not get high PCS internationally. If she misses the 3A, it can be a problem. She also has been dealing with illness and we don't know whether she's fully fit. Her last performance was promising, though. Another disadvantage is that she likely won't start in the last warm-up group. It's probably no secret that the PCS tend to go higher, the later you are in the warm-up group. With her already low PCS, this could prove to be a problem, especially if she has technical issues as well.
Zhenya seems to be on the rise. Her PCS haven't dropped all that much, she was getting high scores even if she didn't perform well. She hasn't debuted her Tosca internationally but it's a better program for her and if clean, would likely see a rise in PCS. She would also, contrarily to Liza, start in the last warm-up group due to her world standing. Her last performances were promising, she seems to adjust better to her technique. However, she didn't perform too well this season and has not made GPF and medaled there, unlike Liza who did. We also haven't seen two clean programs from her yet and she would really need them at Worlds. I think her reputation + her recent performance + the last warm-up group (I think she'd edge Rika out of the last warm-up group, too) would be arguments for her.
I'm just trying to think like rusfed, though (hard task, lol). In the end, I would still send Liza. We have just seen more consistent performances from her all season long. It would also not be as much of a drama. Sending Zhenya would mean lots of hate (just look at the ridiculous reaction a simple instagram post gets) and I think this could be a bit much for her, especially if she doesn't perform to her best. She should have ended the season on a high note and imo, it would have been best for her to skate at the Universiade with a chance at a gold and a new SB.
I respect you and your opinions, but that is simply not accurate. A part of his vision was opening up barriers and borders and inviting others in to experience different cultures but certainly not obliterating them and the differences that make us unique. Your next visit to the Games be sure to check out the Olympic Movement History structure that is normally close or inside the venues that host Track and Field and Hockey/FS events.
The IOC doesn't govern Yahoo sports, Sports.ru and other news outlets. Those outlets report the news. That has nothing to do or change the definition of Olympic Movement which is the same today as it was in 1896.
According to Olympic.org https://www.olympic.org/about-ioc-olympic-movement the charter states, in part; "The purpose of the modern Olympic Games is to promote peace and unity within the international community through the medium of sports. Olympicism founder, Pierre de Coubertin, saw the games as a way to bring political enemies together, inside and outside their own countries through education, commonality, and fair and equal play. To inspire and educate the leaders of tomorrow to understand that greatness is achieved when the world is One Union striving for excellence, while also celebrating and embracing their own national pride and respecting all their countryman no matter their differences."
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