Agree. I think Liza's programs are very sloppy, and I think she can do better. Hopefully now, she will be motivated to clean up the sloppy arms and floppy wrists. I thought she looked a bit tired and out of shape compared to Zhenya, I just don't think she is all the way back from her illness. I would love to see Med medal, it would allow her to go out on a high note, and given the probable landscape for next year, I do think this year will be her last. Or perhaps it should be her last. As far as the cost of the Canadian training, isn't she required to kick back some of the sponsorship/commercial money? She has a huge fan base, and I would assume she makes a nice amount of money from shows, commercials, endorsements etc.
2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating
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Agree. I think Liza's programs are very sloppy, and I think she can do better. Hopefully now, she will be motivated to clean up the sloppy arms and floppy wrists. I thought she looked a bit tired and out of shape compared to Zhenya, I just don't think she is all the way back from her illness. I would love to see Med medal, it would allow her to go out on a high note, and given the probable landscape for next year, I do think this year will be her last. Or perhaps it should be her last. As far as the cost of the Canadian training, isn't she required to kick back some of the sponsorship/commercial money? She has a huge fan base, and I would assume she makes a nice amount of money from shows, commercials, endorsements etc.
// what is actually happening in russia
Brian Orser gave a dumb comment about how Zhenya's selection progress was interesting and fair.
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Whyyy you do this Brian?
Sorry but that was a stupid thing to say. Say "I'm happy they have faith in us" not this focus on a fair selection.
I watched f*ING T*L and they confirmed right at the beginning of their broadcast that this was not a real competition but it was decided beforehand who they wanted.
It is known in Canada too if even T*L talks about it. Really really dumb
Brian Orser gave a dumb comment about how Zhenya's selection progress was interesting and fair.
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Whyyy you do this Brian?
Sorry but that was a stupid thing to say. Say "I'm happy they have faith in us" not this focus on a fair selection.
I watched f*ING T*L and they confirmed right at the beginning of their broadcast that this was not a real competition but it was decided beforehand who they wanted.
It is known in Canada too if even T*L talks about it. Really really dumb
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This is delusional...
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She actually said: “Inside myself still was a little girl who naively believed. You’ve killed her. But I’m a fighter and will return”
Or maybe she edited the post after you quoted it and she added that extra sad sentence.
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I don’t disagree ( I was so thrilled by Liza’s fight on the GP) but Russia fed rarely considers the GP as criteria. If they did, Voronov would be sent to Worlds. He is definitely the most consistent male Russian skater. He never gets sent. They do make decisions based on the most recent competitions. Is that fair to Liza? Obviously not, but fs is rarely fair. I hope Liza keeps fighting and Med doesn’t let the drama go to her head.
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You are speaking as if Medvedeva has transitions and skating skills
Also, please be reminded that she is not only overscored in GOE, but also in BASE VALUE
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You are speaking as if Medvedeva has transitions and skating skills
Also, please be reminded that she is not only overscored in GOE, but also in BASE VALUE
Objectively more than Liza. ( and I really like Liza) If you have seen them live the clear difference in speed and transitions would be clear to you. Liza is really slow compared to all other top ladies. Internationally Med beats Liza by much more in PCS.
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Most recent competition is not in Med's favor either as she bombed nationals despite being over scored in the LP. It came down to political support. If Liza would have been supported by Tarasova instead, she would have been on the team. Heck, Tatiana was annoyed that Zhenya was not considered for the Europeans! All Zhenya had to do was to skate well at Russian Cup. And she did. Liza could have won the final and Med would still go IMO as long as she skated strong enough.
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In their most recent ISU Competition, the total PCS difference is merely four points
Medvedeva got 34.90+68.80=103.70
Tuktamysheva got 32.40+66.61=99.01
// what is actually happening in russia
TAT: Everything was fair.
Besti: The coaching council are fair and experieced people. Nobody can arue about their Decision.
Butyrskaya was as always supporting Tuktik and is sorry because she showed good skates all season.
TAT: Everything was fair.
Besti: The coaching council are fair and experieced people. Nobody can arue about their Decision.
Butyrskaya was as always supporting Tuktik and is sorry because she showed good skates all season.
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That's not what I mean. This isn't Zhenya's fault at all, and I wish her all the best. It just drives me nuts that Liza gave some of the best performances of her life all year and, in my opinion, is probably the Feds' best hope of retaining three spots and they left her at home in favor of someone who has understandably been struggling this season.
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Yet another farce put on by the Russian Fed. Unfortunately, it seems the body of work argument plays a crucial part only when it suits their narrative. Although I’m glad that Med gets a chance at redemption, it’s sad to see that merited results throughout the season mean little to them. And also, it shouldn't only be Liza or Med. Liza is being dumped in favour of another skater that had full-on meltdowns at both Nationals and Euros. The lustre of a past gold has been fading fast in the judges' eyes and RF hasn’t yet followed suit in opening their eyes. There are those skaters that are given multiple passes and then there's Liza who does everything to earn every ounce of respect but unfortunately, it’s still not enough.
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She obviously doesn’t but people enjoy having a mythical beast to blame. They choose Tarasova.
Frankly, this decision was never going to be easy. I was definitely on the fence about it.( leaning a bit toward Liza???) There was no clear cut choice given how badly the second half of the season has been for most of these ladies. I hope the Worlds will be a success for all!
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Perhaps similar in some ways but not a series. Just a one competition event. Unlikely yes, but I can dream [emoji23]
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I posted something similar. The top 12 SB, if anyone declines, keep going down the list. The competition to be in the summer. We need something. And the skaters can debut new programs or keep old programs. This competition would not affect world standings. I think this competition would sell out fast.
I think it would be great! I would go!
Would love to see the breakdown of this because 90K per month seem a lot?
Comes back to bite Russia like how?
You want Medvedeva or the 2 other skaters to skate poorly???
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Is she living like a queen? That figure is baloney and ridiculous. Who actually believes that? And Med herself said she is paying for her own training.
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