Ladies - Short Program
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Kim, weakness in jumps? The best 3+3 among all ladies can not be called weakness in jumps, i believe. Mao is better than her with a 3A. Miki's quad is pretty much like Buttle's quad. Korea, political advantage in figure skating? You are either lying or living in a la la land.
Thank you!!
Yu-Na Kim 's Jumps are not weak. They are actually better than some of the men 's with less power exerted. Embrace the hatred to yourself.
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I never thought I would ever defend this new system, but how could ONE judge from a country that has had no influence back when there was a system where a judge could corrupt it.
Not to mention, the language THIS POSTER uses has very horrid "nonverbal" messages when referring to "the korean skater" as if Kim Yeon-Ah were some sort of criminal. She skated better than Mao and Miki. Plain and simple. Get over it. Notice we're not rushing to crown Yeon-Ah yet because she still has to get through the free skate. Not like how you rushed to crown Mao because she won Japanese nationals.
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I'd ask Satorare to go out on the ice and land a string of single axels. Something Mao, Kim, Kimmie, Jeff, Patrick, and all the skaters at worlds can do in their sleep and see if he/she still thinks those skaters have weak jumps.
Guys, while not disagreeing w/the two of you, see that triangle w/the exclamation point at the lower left corner or every post? The report a post to the Mods button is there for a reason. Instead of firing off an angry post here on the board, repot it and please let the Mods take care of it.
Okay, now that I've got that off my chest...
Wow!! That was a lot of fun to watch this afternoon. Combine me smacking into the Wall of Exhaustion last night and having an appt w/my Social Worker for my annual review of things w/my Disablity Pension this morning and...I pressed record on the VCR when Part Two started after the FD Medal Ceremony and collapsed on my bed.
Didn't want to say anything until I saw it, so...
Joannie, Joannie, Joannie...Sigh!! Although knowing now that she and Mira didn't get there earlier in the week, I am wondering what kind of a factor jet lag played in that skate. Not giving her an excusee, just wondering.
As for Mira...All that happened to her this season didn't teach her one single thing from the articles I've read tonight. Talk about someone in dire need of an attitude adjustment in a major way. BTW...I did see Mira's skate before I drifted off and when the graphic came up w/her name, music, PB and other stuff, I noticed something rather interesting...Under "Coach" a "M Leung" was there. As catty as it sounds, first thing through my head was how on earth Mama Leung managed to pull that one off!?!
Yu-Na was exquisite and WOW!! That death drop of hers was Boitano-quese in it's height. Loved her straight line ftwrk though. Perfect both in tango feel and w/the music.
Miki too was wonderful!! I really hope she keeps it together and winds up on the podium. I've always enjoyed her skating and after she's had such an amazing comeback season, I honestly don't think she'd care what medal colour it would be. So very, very happy for her handling the pressure so far.
And then there's Caro!! So very happy for her too. That combination of hers just floated in the air. It also finally clicked today who Caro reminds me of and it's Katherine Heigl, Izzy, from Grey's Anatomy. That's been bugging me for about a year and a half now.
As someone w/an Italian Brother in Law, cheering for the Italians is something we do in this family, but Caro makes it so very easy to do. Hope she has a great long later tonight.
Forza Caro!!! Forza Italia!!
Kimmie's right there in the hunt. If she can put it down tonight, she'll be on that podium. I don't think she'll be defending her title though. We'll have to see where all the chips end up falling though.
Not sure what to say about Mao. She is a joy to watch, but I haven't seen her enough to feel able to say what she can do later tonight. I've only seen her once before tonight and loved what I saw, so I hope she does well tonight as well.
Only a few more hours to go. It's going to be a very interesting Free Skate. Can't wait!!
Okay, now that I've got that off my chest...
Wow!! That was a lot of fun to watch this afternoon. Combine me smacking into the Wall of Exhaustion last night and having an appt w/my Social Worker for my annual review of things w/my Disablity Pension this morning and...I pressed record on the VCR when Part Two started after the FD Medal Ceremony and collapsed on my bed.
Didn't want to say anything until I saw it, so...
Joannie, Joannie, Joannie...Sigh!! Although knowing now that she and Mira didn't get there earlier in the week, I am wondering what kind of a factor jet lag played in that skate. Not giving her an excusee, just wondering.
As for Mira...All that happened to her this season didn't teach her one single thing from the articles I've read tonight. Talk about someone in dire need of an attitude adjustment in a major way. BTW...I did see Mira's skate before I drifted off and when the graphic came up w/her name, music, PB and other stuff, I noticed something rather interesting...Under "Coach" a "M Leung" was there. As catty as it sounds, first thing through my head was how on earth Mama Leung managed to pull that one off!?!
Yu-Na was exquisite and WOW!! That death drop of hers was Boitano-quese in it's height. Loved her straight line ftwrk though. Perfect both in tango feel and w/the music.
Miki too was wonderful!! I really hope she keeps it together and winds up on the podium. I've always enjoyed her skating and after she's had such an amazing comeback season, I honestly don't think she'd care what medal colour it would be. So very, very happy for her handling the pressure so far.
And then there's Caro!! So very happy for her too. That combination of hers just floated in the air. It also finally clicked today who Caro reminds me of and it's Katherine Heigl, Izzy, from Grey's Anatomy. That's been bugging me for about a year and a half now.
As someone w/an Italian Brother in Law, cheering for the Italians is something we do in this family, but Caro makes it so very easy to do. Hope she has a great long later tonight. Forza Caro!!! Forza Italia!!
Kimmie's right there in the hunt. If she can put it down tonight, she'll be on that podium. I don't think she'll be defending her title though. We'll have to see where all the chips end up falling though.
Not sure what to say about Mao. She is a joy to watch, but I haven't seen her enough to feel able to say what she can do later tonight. I've only seen her once before tonight and loved what I saw, so I hope she does well tonight as well.
Only a few more hours to go. It's going to be a very interesting Free Skate. Can't wait!!
I feel so sorry for Rochette. That is all.
Kim was excellent, Ando was powerful, Kostner looked wonderful if still a bit like she's growing into her limbs (but much improved). I think Meissner gets a bad rap. I found her excellent here, with a very great improvement in artistry.
Asada looked shell-shocked by her mistake.
Kim was excellent, Ando was powerful, Kostner looked wonderful if still a bit like she's growing into her limbs (but much improved). I think Meissner gets a bad rap. I found her excellent here, with a very great improvement in artistry.
Asada looked shell-shocked by her mistake.
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Oh my god, what's going on here? Hey, Satorare, please take a chill pill, would you? Ok, so just you know, that I am not a racist even though I am a japanese national. In fact, I am embarrassed about satorare's comments.
Yu-na Kim delivered a beautiful SP and Mao didn't. that's that. Let's just hope Mao will come back strong in LP and stop humiliating yourself and "us" Please.
Yu-na Kim delivered a beautiful SP and Mao didn't. that's that. Let's just hope Mao will come back strong in LP and stop humiliating yourself and "us" Please.
What? Yu-na has some of the best jumps in the business! She has the most consistent 3/3 and a pure triple lutz. There are many things people would say about Yu-na Kim. But weak jumps most certainly isn't one of them. Sure she's made mistakes in competion. But guess what so has Mao, and Miki has too. Does this mean they are weak jumpers as well?
Yu-na normally gets high grades of execution for her jumps...In some cases higher than Mao's because she doesn't flutz.
Maybe she has problems with the loop, but Mao has problems with the salchow, and Kimmie with the lutz. So what, everyone has a weaker jump..
Really, that's almost laughable. Yu-na is currently 7/7 in triple/triple attempts in international competition, and your calling her weak... Talk about biased.
Along with the idea that the Korean federation is this powerful thing. Until recently, the Korean federation basically ignored Yu-na, didn't help with her training whatsover. They were much more focused on their short track speed skaters...
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Do u think Rochette should find a new coach after this season? Her coach seems to be a super nice lady, but I'm not sure about her competence. To watch her PCS slipping to 5s is maddening. It's Mira territory.
To constantly consult with a sports psychologist is not the real solution.
Kim's weak jumps are loop and salchow. Since her skinny body doesn't have enough musles to make fast rotations, she needs fast entering speed and height than other top skaters. This is mainly disadvantageous for edge jumps.
And the same weakness leads to increase of mistakes in latter half of FP, when she lose skating speed from lack of stamina.
You need strong mustle power and fast rotations for 3A, quads, 3-3 with loops, which are undoubtly impossible for Kim.
And the same weakness leads to increase of mistakes in latter half of FP, when she lose skating speed from lack of stamina.
You need strong mustle power and fast rotations for 3A, quads, 3-3 with loops, which are undoubtly impossible for Kim.
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Honestly, I think both girls need to re-evaluate where they want to go in the sport. Rochette may need someone who can help her steel herself (although lately, it seems that skaters have a harder time learning competitive toughness--maybe this is something one is born with, and not something one can acquire)--like Robyn Wagner, who might seem crazy, but it may be to her benefit.
As to Mira, she needs to learn that she won't improve with the attitude she has.
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Not ALL skaters can land every single jump with ease. Slutskaya was the best at edge jumps, while Kwan, Suguri, Yamaguchi, Caro, and Arakawa were certainly better at toe jumps.
Speaking of, when was the last time Mao performed a triple toe in a program? Either as a solo or as the tail end of a combo?
Hmm...Let's see...That's a rather impressive list there. Three Olympic medalists, a multi time World Champion, Two World Medalists, the current World Jr silver medalist in Men's skating.and the reigning GPF Champion.
Hate is such a powerful word and over something that in the grand scheme of things is just a sport. You are welcome to your opinion of course, but having read your posts over the years, there's so much anger in them and for what? This is just a sport after all. It's not something really important like having to care for someone you love who has an incurable condition or battling w/health problems every single day.
And w/that, I have to go and take a nap to prepare for the LP Coverage.
Yu-na's landed the salchow on many occassions in her programs. In france, she fell on the double axel, and in GPF she made a mistake on the double axe/triple toe combo. But as for her salchow she landed it on both occassions, so I'm not sure what your getting at.
Seeing as Mao's had issues with the triple toe, a true triple lutz, and the salchow, you really have no reason to talk about Yu-na.
As for Yu-na and the triple axel. I read an interview where Orser stated that Yu na was working on the triple axel and got to the point where she was fully rotating it, but then started having injuries so they decided to hold off on it for right now. So, clearly if she's already rotating it "its not impossible for her."
I think saratore does have a legimitate point. There are probably a couple of times that Kwan, Cohen, Buttle, and Kim beat their opponents in virtue of their choreography, presentation, style, etc.. etc.. and would have lost had only the jumps counted.
I think for people who value only athleticism in figure skating, I could understand why they would not respect Cohen, Kwan, and Buttle. These were not just athletes. They were also performers whose talent in being that helped them win their medals as much as their technical components.
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