Team envelopes ?

[flying camel]

When do they come out? do we have to wait all summer before we hear anything?

 

[Sylvia]

The U.S. team envelopes are usually announced after the USFS' Governing Council meeting (May 3-5 this year). I've already compiled a *projected/unofficial* list of A-C envelopes based on the published criteria and can post them if there's interest.

 

[flying camel]

The U.S. team envelopes are usually announced after the USFS' Governing Council meeting (May 3-5 this year). I've already compiled a *projected/unofficial* list of A-C envelopes based on the published criteria and can post them if there's interest.

Sure, I'm sure I'm not the only one who is interested.

Thanks

 

[Sylvia]

Note: This is an UNOFFICIAL list based on the published criteria (link below). The OFFICIAL envelopes are usually announced around the time of Governing Council (May 3-5, 2007) and published on the USFS site not long afterwards.

2007-08 Team Envelope Criteria:
http://www.usfigureskating.org/shell.asp?sid=35400

"Skaters qualifying in more than one envelope will always be placed in the higher envelope." Names will be removed in the event that a pair or dance team splits (currently known splits are italicized below), a skater retires or announces a year off from competing, etc.

TEAM A
Automatic for:
U.S. senior champions (2007) - Kimmie Meissner, Evan Lysacek, Brooke Castile/Ben Okolski, Tanith Belbin/Ben Agosto

Gold medalist, Four Continents Figure Skating Championships - Meissner, Lysacek

Placement in top 12, 2007 World Figure Skating Championships - Meissner, Emily Hughes, Lysacek, Johnny Weir, Rena Inoue/John Baldwin, Castle/Okolski, Belbin/Agosto, Davis/White, Melissa Gregory/Denis Petukhov

TEAM B
Automatic for:
Skaters placing 2-4 in senior events at the 2007 U.S. Championships -
Ryan Bradley, Weir [qualifies for Team A], Jeremy Abbott; Hughes [qualifies for Team A], Alissa Czisny, Bebe Liang; Inoue/Baldwin [qualifies for Team A], Naomi Nari Nam/Themi Leftheris, Amanda Evora/Mark Ladwig; Gregory/Petukhov [qualifies for Team A], Davis/White [qualifies for Team A], Kimberly Navarro/Brent Bommentre

Second and third place, Four Continents Figure Skating Championships - Abbott, Hughes, Inoue/Baldwin, Belbin/Agosto [the latter 3 qualify for Team A]

Medalists (top 3), Junior Grand Prix Final - Caroline Zhang, Ashley Wagner, Megan Oster; Stephen Carriere, Brandon Mroz; Keauna McLaughlin/Rockne Brubaker, Jessica Rose Paetsch/Jon Nuss; Madison Hubbell/Keiffer Hubbell, Emily Samuelson/Evan Bates

2007 U.S. junior champions - Eliot Halverson, Mirai Nagasu, McLaughlin/Brubaker, Samuelson/Bates

Medalists (top 3), World Junior Figure Skating Championships - Zhang, Nagasu, Wagner; Carriere; McLaughlin/Brubaker

TEAM C
Automatic for:
Skaters who qualify for the Junior Grand Prix Final (non-medalists) -
Austin Kanallakan, Curran Oi, Tommy Steenberg; Melissa Bulanhagui, Juliana Cannarozzo; [Kendra Moyle/Andy Seitz-split], Bridget Namiotka/John Coughlin

Singles, pairs and dance, 2007 U.S. Championships:
Seniors places 5-7 - Rachael Flatt, Danielle Kahle, Cannarozzo; Scott Smith, Derrick Delmore, Parker Pennington; Tiffany Vise/Derek Trent, [Moyle/Seitz-split], Vlassov/Meekins; [Matthews/Zavozin-split], Jennifer Wester/Daniil Barantsev, Caitlin Mallory/Brent Holdburg

Junior places 2-5 - Mroz [qualifies for Team B], Austin Kanallakan, Curran Oi, Douglas Razzano; Zhang & Wagner [both qualify for Team B], Blake Rosenthal, Alexe Gilles; Bianca Butler/Joseph Jacobsen, Paetsch/Nuss [qualify for Team B], Kaela Pflumm/Christopher Pottenger, Andrea Best/Trevor Young; Hubbell/Hubbell [qualify for Team B], Lynn Kriengkrairut /Logan Giulietti-Schmitt, Piper Gilles/Timothy McKernan, Shannon Wingle/Ryan Devereaux

Novice places 1-3 - Armin Mahbanoozadeh, Alexander Johnson, Keegan Messing; Angela Maxwell, Kristine Musademba, Carolyn-Ann Alba; Tracy Tanovich/Michael Chau, Caitlin Yankowskas/Daniyel Cohen, Jaylyn Kelly/Gabe Woodruff; Maia Shibutani/Alex Shibutani, Sara Bailey/Kyle Herring, Anastasia Cannuscio/Dean Copely

Medalists (top 3) at ISU junior and senior international competitions in 2006-07 [just the skaters not already listed above] - Jordan Miller [Nepela], Daisuke Murakami [MEX JGP]; Katy Taylor [Nebelhorn], Megan Williams-Stewart [Nepela], Megan Hyatt [FRA JGP], Chrissy Hughes [Challenge Cup/The Hague], Richard Dornbush [Gardena Spring Trophy/Italy].

***It should be noted that qualifying for team envelope C does not necessarily guarantee an international assignment, as envelopes are primarily used for designating funding levels.***

 

[flying camel]

I didn't think Flatt, Khale and Julianna wold be in Team C. I don't think they will get any GP events down that low.

 

[Sylvia]

Here's a condensed, easier-to-read version of the projected/unofficial Team A-C envelopes.

Team A:
Lysacek, Weir; Meissner, E. Hughes; Castile/Okolski, Inoue/Baldwin; Belbin/Agosto, Davis/White, Gregory/Petukhov.

Team B:
Bradley, Abbott, Carriere, Halverson, Mroz;
Czisny, Liang, Zhang, Nagasu, Wagner, Oster;
Nam/Leftheris, Evora/Ladwig, McLaughlin/Brubaker, Paetsch/Nuss;
Navarro/Bommentre, Hubbell/Hubbell, Samuelson/Bates.

Team C:
Smith, Delmore, Pennington, J. Miller, Murakami, Steenberg, Kanallakan, Oi, Razzano, Dornbush, Mahbanoozadeh, Johnson, Messing;
Flatt, Kahle, Cannarozzo, Taylor, Bulanhagui, Williams-Stewart, Hyatt, B. Rosenthal, A. Gilles, C. Hughes, Maxwell, Musademba, Alba;
Vise/Trent, Vlassov/Meekins, Namiotka/Coughlin, Butler/Jacobsen, Pflumm/Pottenger, Best/Young, Tanovich/Chau, Yankowskas/Cohen, Kelly/Woodruff;
Wester/Barantsev, Mallory/Holdburg, Kriengkrairut/Giulietti-Schmitt, P. Gilles/McKernan, Wingle/Devereaux, Shibutani/Shibutani, Bailey/Herring, A. Cannuscio/Copely.

 

[KwanFan1212]

Am I allowed to let out a big WEEEEEEEEE that Amanda & Mark should be on Team B now?!?!

 

[Sylvia]

Yes, you're allowed, Heather... but just remember that none of this is "official" yet.

I didn't think Flatt, Khale and Julianna wold be in Team C. I don't think they will get any GP events down that low.

They all meet one or more of the published criteria for Team C. But Nationals placements/team envelope levels don't necessarily determine who will be on the Senior Grand Prix.

Flatt will likely be on the JGP, and perhaps Cannarozzo may be as well once again. Kahle has one more year of ISU junior eligibility (she turns 18 in April), but has already done one Senior 'B' (last fall) and could have a shot at Skate America if USFS chooses to invite her as the 3rd U.S. lady.

 

[Vodka Shot]

How much $ do they get? I mean how do they actually make money off of skating? What if they don't win anything that season? Do skaters in the same bracket all get the same amount or does the USFSA have their faves? Do ladies get more?

 

[psycho]

Last year Matt Savoie was in Team A and he finished 3rd at nationals. Why isn't Ryan Bradley, who was second at nationals, in Team A envelope this year when Johnny who's third is? Just curious.

 

[gkelly]

Last year Matt Savoie was in Team A and he finished 3rd at nationals. Why isn't Ryan Bradley, who was second at nationals, in Team A envelope this year when Johnny who's third is? Just curious.

The relevant criterion would seem to be Placement in top 12, [2006] World Figure Skating Championships

 

[decker]

Johnny qualifies because he placed in the top 12 at Worlds. Ryan doesn't meet any of the automatic criteria (gold Nats, or gold 4CCs, or top 12 Worlds). I can't remember just now how Matt qualified from 3rd at Nats, but I'm sure there's a reason.

And as Sylvia noted, these are predictions rather than official.

BTW Sylvia ... thanks for doing the homework!

Susan

 

[flying camel]

It seems that Wagner might have a shot at getting some good assignments.