2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[bubblecherry]

Rusfed probably just wants Zhenya in Russia more + she's probably got the most starpower there to sell tickets and bring in viewers based on RusNats and RusCup final. Alina got NHK, the 3A girl without quads, and two ~easier~ GPs anyway. You can't really say they favored one over the other.

 

[andromache]

- I disagree that they sacrificed Medvedeva to Trusova. While Sasha should beat Zhenya, Rostelecom is known for home cooking. If Medvedeva doesn't bomb, she will have a silver there, or even gold (see all the home judging of her so far, including the russian cup final). This is somewhat unfair, I would rather have Alina at Rostelecom, and Zhenya in Japan, as that would give Alina better chances for GPF.

As world champ, Alina had first choice of events - so I am extremely surprised they sent her to/she picked NHK. I wonder if she just has more positive associations with competitions in Japan and thought she would be more likely to skate clean there?

 

[Scott512]

And again alina has it the easiest , and zhenya the hardest .

Really? What do you mean by Evgenia has it the hardest and Alina has it the easiest again? There's too much competition in the ladies discipline. No one can have it easy.

 

[esteticlove]

And again alina has it the easiest , and zhenya the hardest .

I don't like where this discussions are going to. Yes, France is the "easiest" among the 6 competitions but it's still a competition. I don't see Alina not beating Aliona if she's in top from. But let's not forget that Kostornaia is also the skater who has already beaten Trusova and Schsherbakova even though she's the one with the easiest TES.

I do think though that Tuktamysheva was also kind of protected because they didn't ditch her to fight Trusova or Kihira, even though she has 3As. She'll be facing Anna and Elizabeth, who as moriel said are kind of on the same level. Of course, I hope that Tuktik finally realized that she needs also packaging and real choreography and not only 3As if she wants to be competitive against those 2.

 

[colormyworld240]

And again alina has it the easiest , and zhenya the hardest .

It's easier to have it easier when you're starting from somewhere higher . Alina won WC and likely had her choices honoured, as she deserves. I'm sure the same would be for Evgenia had she won. And at WC, they were on even playing field. Just another excuse. I would hardly call Kostornaia and Kihira "easy" competition; lets not forget Kostornaia beat Trusova internationally, someone with 3 quads. And Kihira is GPF champion and has the most difficult layouts of senior ladies last season. The bias is showing again.

 

[Watch]

As world champ, Alina had first choice of events - so I am extremely surprised they sent her to/she picked NHK. I wonder if she just has more positive associations with competitions in Japan and thought she would be more likely to skate clean there?

There're skaters who feel propped up by skating at home and those who feel too much pressure from that. Alina might be among those who feel more pressure. And I believe she said herself that she loved skating in Japan.

 

[fabienne1996]

Really? What do you mean by Evgenia has it the hardest and Alina has it the easiest again? There's too much competition in the ladies discipline. No one can have it easy.

Last year alina also had easier fields than zhenya, for example, and they paired alina both times with alena, the one of the 3 a she could beat, while zhenya gets to go both times against sasha the hardest one to beat of the 3a . I wished that for example that they had mixed them up better like, one event like it is now and the other that alina would get to go against Anna or Sasha and zhenya against alena or Anna. Or against Liza.

 

[Payako]

It might be true Gubanova pissed off a politician.So sad Imo she is the most talented girl.There will be no chance to go international competitions.People will never know how talented she is.

I am hopeless she has a little sister.

https://youtu.be/SCa3GETC6Yk

I'm sure her sister will be treated same as nastya.They must move to another country

 

[theharleyquinn]

There's also the reality that Zhenya trains in Canada, so that was bound to be one of her events. The benefit of not dealing with jetlag and extensive travel is not marginal.

 

[esteticlove]

Last year alina also had easier fields than zhenya, for example, and they paired alina both times with alena, the one of the 3 a she could beat, while zhenya gets to go both times against sasha the hardest one to beat of the 3a . I wished that for example that they had mixed them up better like, one event like it is now and the other that alina would get to go against Anna or Sasha and zhenya against alena or Anna. Or against Liza.

I understand your frustration but let's not forget, RusFed doesn't aim for a distribution that is the fairest but for a one that will ensure at least 3 girls going to the GPF with the potential to win it against the Japanese. Those are Trusova, Schsherbakova and Zagitova. There's just no way for those three to meet before the GPF. It's still interesting that they send Medvedeva and not Tuktamysheva against Trusova. But I guess they owe her that one due to the Worlds drama. Also, Tuktik's field isn't that easy and she'll have to fight for every point.

 

[Fluture]

As world champ, Alina had first choice of events - so I am extremely surprised they sent her to/she picked NHK. I wonder if she just has more positive associations with competitions in Japan and thought she would be more likely to skate clean there?

I‘m not too surprised, to be honest. It was clear that there would be only one of Kaori, Satoko and Rika at NHK. And Alina loves Japan. So, why not choose that GP? I thought if she could choose, she‘d do NHK and Rostelecom. But since they are back to back she had to make sacrifices. So she went to/was assigned to France. I‘m more surprised everyone is so surprised at her getting NHK. The girl has said multiple times how much she loves that country. And the competition there isn‘t exactly tough either, only Rika is there.

Really? What do you mean by Evgenia has it the hardest and Alina has it the easiest again? There's too much competition in the ladies discipline. No one can have it easy.

Because Alina had a relatively easy route to GPF last season whereas Zhenya did have some tougher assignments. This year Alina also doesn‘t have to face Trusova or Shcherbakova, known quadsters. The only legitimate treat should be Kihira and even then, she can walk away with a gold and a silver and make it to GPF. It won‘t be easy, of course, she‘ll have to be focused and fight but imo, they did make sure that she‘ll have good chances. I think this GP season can greatly help her in building up her confidence for the final and everything that comes afterwards.

Zhenya, on the other hand doesn‘t have it as bad as I expected. She has Canada, which is probably the toughest assignment this season but Russia is okay. She‘ll meet both Trusova as well as Rika, though, so she wasn‘t protected from anybody. I‘d say this season will be hard for everybody. I‘ve never seen a GP field as competitive as this one.

 

[fabienne1996]

It's easier to have it easier when you're starting from somewhere higher [emoji23]. Alina won WC and likely had her choices honoured, as she deserves. I'm sure the same would be for Evgenia had she won. And at WC, they were on even playing field. Just another excuse. I would hardly call Kostornaia and Kihira "easy" competition; lets not forget Kostornaia beat Trusova internationally, someone with 3 quads. And Kihira is GPF champion and has the most difficult layouts of senior ladies last season. The bias is showing again.

Where is it an excuse. Zhenya has to go against sasha both times who is the hardest to eat of the 3a if alina, zhenya or Liza can even beat her at all if she is in too form. Whilst alina has the easiest of the 3a, while I love alena and wish for her to win at those events I just find that from the Russians old seniors against the new Russian seniors alina has it the easiest if she is in top form. That's not an excuse it is at the moment an observation

 

[MalAssada]

Not even one boring GP, this is gonna be the best season ever

 

[Scott512]

Last year alina also had easier fields than zhenya, for example, and they paired alina both times with alena, the one of the 3 a she could beat, while zhenya gets to go both times against sasha the hardest one to beat of the 3a . I wished that for example that they had mixed them up better like, one event like it is now and the other that alina would get to go against Anna or Sasha and zhenya against alena or Anna. Or against Liza.

Alena had GPs last season? She skated juniors.

If Zhenya skates well GP final is doable.

 

[colormyworld240]

Where is it an excuse. Zhenya has to go against sasha both times who is the hardest to eat of the 3a if alina, zhenya or Liza can even beat her at all if she is in too form. Whilst alina has the easiest of the 3a, while I love alena and wish for her to win at those events I just find that from the Russians old seniors against the new Russian seniors alina has it the easiest if she is in top form. That's not an excuse it is at the moment an observation

Kostornaia beat Trusova at their only international competition. Also she is more likely than Trusova to skate clean, just look at least season. She has a huge PCS advantage which will guarantee her a huge score. Sasha did not skate a 3 quad program clean last season, and her point advantage is very much based on whether she can land all the quads. So I would say Alena is more difficult to beat than Sasha, considering she did in fact beat her, in an international competition, which GPs are. So yes, more excuses.

 

[fabienne1996]

Alena had GPs last season? She skated juniors.

If Zhenya skates well GP final is doable.

I wrote alina and not alena, I said that alina got in alena the easiest to beat of the 3a, while zhenya got the hardest.

 

[j00mla]

France is the only event without a ladies' 3A or quad.

just you wait, Alёna and Alina can surprise everyone.

 

[fabienne1996]

Kostornaia beat Trusova at their only international competition. Also she is more likely than Trusova to skate clean, just look at least season. She has a huge PCS advantage which will guarantee her a huge score. Sasha did not skate a 3 quad program clean last season, and her point advantage is very much based on whether she can land all the quads. So I would say Alena is more difficult to beat than Sasha, considering she did in fact beat her, in an international competition, which GPs are. So yes, more excuses.

While alena is my favorite of the 3a it would be a lie to say that Sasha did not get more consistent with her quads.she did . The one time alena beat Sasha was because Sasha messed up. Still i wish that they mixed them up better because it also would have been interesting them going against different one each assignment

 

[j00mla]

I think with the matchups, Anya and Alina will have an easier road to the finals. Trusova-it will be more difficult. (Rika, for example in Skate Canada)

It's Rika who will have troubles in Canada, not Sasha. They competed twice in 2017/2018 and Sasha surpassed her on 13 and 50 points respectively.

 

[Vandevska]

Am I the only one satisfied with the distribution?
I mean, sure, we all have our favourites, but one had to know that this year it was gonna be hard anywhere. My excitement levels are through the roof! JGP circuit is exciting because I get to see Tutberitze's pupils and learn about more skaters, and BAM! Every weekend for 7 weeks straight I get to be excited about the GP circuit! It's gonna be awesome. I can't wait.

Also, although everyone enjoys skating in Japan because they're the best audience, I'm glad that Alina's going there because she feels great there, and I'm glad that Evgenia is going to Rostelecom because she feels great there too. They had to have at least one ultra popular senior there to sell tickets because probably Sasha is still not as popular (though she's spectacular - get it? popular-spectacular, it rhymes ).