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Alina performed her new SP today. 3Lz, 2A and 3F were her jumps, with 3F out of a Charlotte, if I understood correctly? But maybe it‘s the 2A out of the Charlotte and instagram translated wrongly.

She also has a new SP costume. :)

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0aXK2IpLPC/?igshid=1n7cke82efuwu

Can‘t wait to see the program. When will we see the broadcast?
Really pretty girl in a really pretty dress ^^
Apart from Zhenya's programs, I'm mostly waiting to see this SP too ^^
 
Really pretty girl in a really pretty dress ^^
Apart from Zhenya's programs, I'm mostly waiting to see this SP too ^^

Yes, I like the dress too. She looks really pretty.

I can‘t wait to see what Zhenya will get for her dresses! And her programs too of course.
 
Alina performed her new SP today. 3Lz, 2A and 3F were her jumps, with 3F out of a Charlotte, if I understood correctly? But maybe it‘s the 2A out of the Charlotte and instagram translated wrongly.

She also has a new SP costume. :)

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0aXK2IpLPC/?igshid=1n7cke82efuwu

Can‘t wait to see the program. When will we see the broadcast?

It is unknown yet. But it is known that 30 minutes later Japaneese TBS channel will broadcast a studio show in which 4As took part few weeks ago.
 
Yes, I like the dress too. She looks really pretty.

I can‘t wait to see what Zhenya will get for her dresses! And her programs too of course.

Me too... I am very curious especially about her free program and the dress of course: will it be inspired by the Japanese costume?
i'm also curious about Sasha's Trusova new free program.
 
for their senior debut, Shcherbakova and Trusova's account are verified on instagram while Alena hasnt yet
what does this mean and impression from fans ?

barring disaster Trusova and Zagitova are almost guaranteed to go all the continental and World championships. That leaves on space open, can Med land her attempted 4S, can Tuk maintain her good form from last season a bit cut short of momentum, will Kostornayas stability be enough to breakout as a senior contender, will Shcherbakova be the darkhorse amongst all the russian ladies and become a top contender in her senior debut.
I would not be so sure, that both are locked, do they have a high chance ? Yes but I would not consider anyone locked for a team spot, as another poster already said, if for example 3a does what they did at last year's Russian nationals and all 3 are before zhenya, alina, lies or Sofia, than they will at least go all 3 of them to euros, but it could also be that alina gets into the team if she delivers constantly, it could also be that zhenya could get into the team, we know she is working on a 4s , and harder combinations , if for example Anna again falls as often as she did last season on her quad than , or even if Sasha falls on her quads( which I do not believe will happen but hey anything can happen) than neither could be in the team if others are better, he'll even Liza could get into the team if she lands her 3a constantly and others fail at something at some point.
 
I don't know, i just have this feeling. Perhaps i worry because i really like her.
I think 3A will be focusing on consistency more this year because it's more important in seniors (as we've seen with Sofia).
I don't have any predictions about their technical contents.

As for Zhenya, considering that even last year when things looked dreary they were adding new content and trying new things, I'm almost certain we'll be seeing 4S if possible. I can't see her doing 3lz-3lo though.

As for Kamila and Kanysheva, I think we will indeed see them trying the quads, especially with the presence of Alisa Liu.

Her and Zhenya are my favourites, so I‘m always worried for them. I would have been worried for Alena too even if she hadn‘t been injured.

As for the 3A. I too think consistency is important but Daniil said at the end of last season that they‘ll want to make sure their girls have a 3A for the new season because it‘s needed in the SP. And they mentioned they‘re already training it. That‘s why I think we‘ll at least see one in the second half of the season. If they‘re ready, that is, of course. But Daniil did sound quite confident about them. Let‘s see.

The battle with Alysa will be quite intriguing, even though I‘d say Kanysheva and especially Valieva are both ahead of her in everything but the fact that she has a 3A. Of course, this can be a game changer but I‘m yet to be convinced. At the moment, the Russians just seem stronger overall. But maybe Alysa will surprise me.

Layouts sure are a fun thing to discuss, especially during off season. I don't think 3Lz-3Lo combo is the one Zhenya will go for, unless she does it in the Short Program. But her Lutz got called when she tried to repeat it last season.

I too was a bit disappointed with Aliona repeating SP, even though it was my favourite program of all Russian ladies last year. But maybe she needed time to recover and have a program that works for her as her BV is bit lower compared to others.

Anna and Sasha will include loop combo only if it's stable enough to outdo the risk. After all, in SP it gives them only 0.7 points of advantage. Also, if they do combo in the second half, they will get a similar BV to Zagitova. But now I wonder if that'll be the case, as in junior program there was a required solo jump and they couldn't add a triple to it if they missed the combo in the first place.

Kamila's and Kanysheva's situation with quads is not clear, there haven't been any new videos. We will find out in a bit more than a week.

I‘m not sold on 3Lz+3Lo as a combo for the SP for Zhenya either but she did say that she won‘t jump 3F+3T forever and this is the logical process imo. Her flip has been a bit wonky this season so it‘s not likely that she‘ll do a 3F+3Lo...

Frankly, I loved that program so much last season that I‘m not too disappointed that she‘ll repeat it. It‘s a safe choice and after all, it worked just fine for Alina in her debut season. It gives more time for details and to perfect every move. It‘s more that I want her to be healthy, that‘s why I‘m worried.

I wondered too about the SP layout for the soon to be seniors. Backloading the combo was clever because there was a required solo jump anyway. But it‘s a bit risky, especially for seniors. Then again, Aliona‘s SP was choreographed that way. She could, of course, put the combo on to the 3F and make the lutz the solo jump. Will be interesting to see.

Kanysheva‘s quad also looked wonky the only time we saw it... Kamila‘s was strong enough for her to jump it in combo, so I‘d say judging only from this video, Valieva is more likely to do one this season. But maybe they‘ll use the same strategy they used for Anna this season. Focusing on winning the first JGP without quad and a safer layout and then introducing it later on.
 
Me too... I am very curious especially about her free program and the dress of course: will it be inspired by the Japanese costume?
i'm also curious about Sasha's Trusova new free program.

Zhenya is getting her FS costume by a Japanese dress maker. I think she made costumes for Shoma and Yuzu before. (Shame on me but I forgot her name... :slink:)

Edit: Found her again. That‘s her.

https://www.instagram.com/stm_ito

Her dresses look gorgeous.

Me, too. Will it be GoT inspired? Are there any costumes of Daenerys that would make for good figure skating dresses? I have to say, I wasn‘t too much of a fan of Sasha‘s FS costume last season. I just didn‘t like the combinations of the colours.
 
Zhenya is getting her FS costume by a Japanese dress maker. I think she made costumes for Shoma and Yuzu before. (Shame on me but I forgot her name... :slink:)

Me, too. Will it be GoT inspired? Are there any costumes of Daenerys that would make for good figure skating dresses? I have to say, I wasn‘t too much of a fan of Sasha‘s FS costume last season. I just didn‘t like the combinations of the colours.

Her name is Satomi Ito, you can find her on Instagram. She has made a bunch of costumes for top Japanese skaters (and that awesome dress Marin Honda wore this season). She has also collaborated with foreign skaters before, Elena Radionova got a costume from her.

The woman who makes costumes for Tutberidze girls seems to sew better dresses that jumpsuits. For example, Sasha's second costume for SP looked very nice and badass to me, compared to her jumpsuits for FP and SP. Haven't watched GOT, but I assume she will wear a dress. Also, I wonder if Anna's costume will be similar to the girl's here, as the music she uses is taken from this scene: https://youtu.be/4F5sPA5E27o .
 
Gubanova''s words are those of a person that felt the unjust treatment. And she is right, cause we many times noticed that she was underscored, or did not received any important competition. So I really wont blame her for this interview.
Yes she is actually right. But she is stupid to say it a loud at such a vulnerable state of her career. However after 3/4 coaching changes in 3/4 years its ovious that she aint easy to deal with
 
Her name is Satomi Ito, you can find her on Instagram. She has made a bunch of costumes for top Japanese skaters (and that awesome dress Marin Honda wore this season). She has also collaborated with foreign skaters before, Elena Radionova got a costume from her.

The woman who makes costumes for Tutberidze girls seems to sew better dresses that jumpsuits. For example, Sasha's second costume for SP looked very nice and badass to me, compared to her jumpsuits for FP and SP. Haven't watched GOT, but I assume she will wear a dress. Also, I wonder if Anna's costume will be similar to the girl's here, as the music she uses is taken from this scene: https://youtu.be/4F5sPA5E27o .

Thanks! She actually collaborated with Zhenya before, too. She made a dress for her for Dreams on Ice 2016, I believe. I really like her works.

Olga is one of my favourite dress makers but I agree about the jumpsuits. I wasn‘t a fan of neither Sasha‘s first SP nor her FS costume. Whereas I loved what she made for her second SP and Anna and Aliona‘s costumes. (Other than Anna‘s FS dress lol)

If that‘s the character Anna will be portraying, then I guess they will make a costume that‘s at least partly inspired by her. I wish they had to wear their dresses at test skates already. I can’t wait as long. :laugh:
 
Gubanova''s words are those of a person that felt the unjust treatment. And she is right, cause we many times noticed that she was underscored, or did not received any important competition. So I really wont blame her for this interview.

We could have used this post of yours 2 days ago. ;) But the topic is getting a little burned out. I agree with your comments about Nastya and that interview. But I still wish she did not do it with Rodina who was looking for a vulnerable girl to say things most Russinas never would. Sadly Rodina got her way.
 
Yes she is actually right. But she is stupid to say it a loud at such a vulnerable state of her career. However after 3/4 coaching changes in 3/4 years its ovious that she aint easy to deal with

I am so sad Nastya never got to work with Eteri since she makes such a big difference in girls careers. To say EG would have adjusted Nastyas attitude and improved her jumping technique is an understatement. but alas it never happened they probably never will.

To change the subject from the Anastasia back-and-forth arguments and discussions we've had the last couple days to what could possibly be a more peaceful topic. I want to know from everybody how many points do you think having Eteri Georgiavina coach you is worth in ladies figure skating? 5? 10? That is the question. What is the answer?
 
I’m really hoping Alyona can get her 3A again. It would really help her to stay very competitive with other ladies, possibly that’s all she needs next season. 1-2 3A in 2 programs and she could easily close the gap with her PCs.
 
Her name is Satomi Ito, you can find her on Instagram. She has made a bunch of costumes for top Japanese skaters (and that awesome dress Marin Honda wore this season). She has also collaborated with foreign skaters before, Elena Radionova got a costume from her.

The woman who makes costumes for Tutberidze girls seems to sew better dresses that jumpsuits. For example, Sasha's second costume for SP looked very nice and badass to me, compared to her jumpsuits for FP and SP. Haven't watched GOT, but I assume she will wear a dress. Also, I wonder if Anna's costume will be similar to the girl's here, as the music she uses is taken from this scene: https://youtu.be/4F5sPA5E27o .

Danaerys wore both dresses and dress over pants looks (looked much nicer than it sounds). A lot of her outfits were blue, although there was more red and black for the last couple of seasons. This one of her iconic ones: X.

I'm really excited to see what Trusova gets for her FS costume. Dany had so many gorgeous looks.
 
The full "Honoo-no Taiiku-kai TV" show:

https://vk.com/video205095144_456239168

A lot of fun is here.
The second part will be broadcasted at 10th August.

Thank you! They‘re so cute together and seem to have so much fun. Great that they were all invited on this show. I also love this part:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0bCNSXIk1z/?igshid=u7gplqjp46dz

Edit: For some reason it doesn‘t work for me... it says there‘s an error. But maybe it simply doesn‘t work on the phone? :scratch2:
 
I‘m not sold on 3Lz+3Lo as a combo for the SP for Zhenya either but she did say that she won‘t jump 3F+3T forever and this is the logical process imo. Her flip has been a bit wonky this season so it‘s not likely that she‘ll do a 3F+3Lo...

Well, Zhenya does not have a lutz and never has. It's just a more than necessary difficult entry to a 3flip. So she kind of needs a quad because she can only repeat 3flip once since she has no 3lutz. Upping her flip combo to a -loop should help her base value though.
 
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