2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Scott512]

She didn‘t leave Eteri specifically, she left skating altogether. Then, after a few months she realised she missed it and came back and struggled to find a coach. When she talked to Serafima she tried out with Plushenko and stayed there. At least that‘s how I remember it. But I‘m no Russian speaker so no guarantee on it being correct.

Nastya is a fighter. She will do what she has to do. Don‘t give up on these girls so quickly, please.

I won't give up on them but a few of them have an uphill climb to get to the elite level even though they have elite talent. A couple of Nastyas come to mind.

That's right Anastasia Tarakanova did quit for a couple months. Sad she did not reconnect with her former coach. We have to remember and never forget how brutally tough this sport is mentally and physically on the athletes.

Is it just me that is getting creeped out by all of the sneaky photos that @team.kamilavalieva keeps on posting from Kamila? Talk about invading the privacy being taken to the next level. I don't think it's right, nor healthy.

it's a horrible situation but girls and young ladies I'm assuming from all around the world are almost addicted to social media. Fortunately for me my two nieces and step-daughter are not addicted to social media like we feared they would be. They have Instagram but not Twitter or Facebook and we are all very happy about that because bullying online on the social media sites is an issue worldwide. Social media addiction seems to be more of them female thing than a male thing athletes or not. I'm not sure about why that is but that seems to be the case.

A lot of us here want the Russian Federation or any Federation to educate their athletes on limiting social media as much as they can. This way YouTube live stream situations with Shabotova and Gubanova may not have happened and those two young ladies would have been much better for it not happening.

Good luck to Nastya today. I hope she medals and gives an excellent performance like she's capable of.

 

[nussnacker]

I could be wrong on this one, but based on bigger shots of the rink in Courchevel, that "room" is really just a corner of the rinkside and anybody can be there. There are audience seats right behind the camera. So they might not actually know Kamila and Maya, which would explain the later photos taken from far away. I could be wrong, of course, but I don't see why anyone would be taking far, blurry paparazzi-type photos of someone they know in person and could talk to anytime.

It does look stalkerish, that’s for sure.

 

[Vandevska]

What reaaaally made me go like :noshake: was those latest pictures/videos with her and Maya at what seems to be the closing banquet at Courchevel. It's really creepy. It makes me wonder "is she followed EVERYWHERE?". It's definitely not a good thing. I haven't seen such behaviour by any fangroup of Evgenia, Alina, Sasha, Aliona, Anna. Sure, they would post edits, repost pictures, but not like this. It's endangering the privacy, and the safety too. Too many crazy people out there. If they're always posting about her whereabouts that might give someone the opportunity to do something harmful to her. Though tbh it's probably just a teenager running that account too and it's very possible they aren't aware of the consequences.

On a similar note, I don't like it how the Chrustalny's (probably not the correct spelling lol) visitors seem to be getting bigger in number. They're very young. People should perhaps restrain themselves and know what's the limit.

 

[Georgya]

A lot of us here want the Russian Federation or any Federation to educate their athletes on limiting social media as much as they can. This way YouTube live stream situations with Shabotova and Gubanova may not have happened and those two young ladies would have been much better for it not happening.

Oh please, I am the first one to criticise Rusfed cause they have lots of problems but it's not their job to educate teenagers not to embarrasse themselves with the help of social media. Parents need to do that as soon as they buy smartphones for ther kids. It's a widespread global phenomenon how damaging the social media is ... and in most cases parents don't know how to use it and what should tell their kids not to do.

 

[Grin]

Nastya was ok today, what a relief

 

[Scott512]

Oh please, I am the first one to criticise Rusfed cause they have lots of problems but it's not their job to educate teenagers not to embarrasse themselves with the help of social media. Parents need to do that as soon as they buy smartphones for ther kids. It's a widespread global phenomenon how damaging the social media is ... and in most cases parents don't know how to use it and what should tell their kids not to do.

Your statement just proved my point. If the parents are out of touch with social media and smartphones then the federation's and coaches and trainers need to step in and advise the youngsters on what not to do. If the federation's need to hire counselors to deal with these social media issues then so be it.

 

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[Tolstoj]

Competition has just ended so i think we can discuss it now. Sorry i thought before the competition was already ended.

Nastya was ok today, what a relief

It was not enough unfortunately and that's somewhat comical.

By 0.03 points she is behind Maya Khromykh in the SB list.

She did better than Khromykh (who completely bombed the free program) in my opinion, i'd argue though Tarakanova's programs need some serious rework.

1) lack of choreography

2) lack of interpretation in certain parts of her free skate.

3) slow kinda empty level 2 steps sequence in the free program.

The caller here was a little picky on silly stuff like the leg for the illusion into biellman which affected the level 4.

 

[*~RussianBleux~*]

It was not enough unfortunately and that's somewhat comical.

By 0.3 points she is behind Maya Khromykh in the SB list.

0.03........

0.03 will more than likely mean Nastya gets no second assignment. Omg

 

[ec00834]

It was not enough unfortunately and that's somewhat comical.

By 0.3 points she is behind Maya Khromykh in the SB list.

Does that mean Maya will receive a second event?

 

[nussnacker]

Woooow... Maya was born under a lucky star.
0.3 point difference and she's back in the game for a second gp.
120 for Nastya though??? :sarcasm: what a joke

 

[Tolstoj]

Does that mean Maya will receive a second event?

Between the two yes, since they both got the bronze, but Maya is that little higher on the season best total score.

 

[Elana]

Wow Kamila and Alysa both relieving 138 in the free. I never thought they would be this close to one another and so far above the rest (as of now). Quite the rivalry we will see I hope! Both outstanding but so different, I am excited to see them judged by the same panel!

 

[nussnacker]

Panova needs to find another dress designer for Nastia asap

 

[Tolstoj]

Panova needs to find another dress designer for Nastia asap

yes, i thought the costume was like made over night or something.

The green dress is actually nice but the blue thingy on top are tacky.

 

[Jontor]

Russian girls in the SB list after 2 events

2. Kamila Valieva 200.71
5. Maiia Khromykh 179.32
6. Anastasia Tarakanova 179.29

 

[Vandevska]

Imo Nastya seems stronger than Maya but they're still so close...
This competition showed how strong Kamila is too imo. Only 1 ultra-c element and yet she's very equal to Alysa. If both clean Alysa would probably win but still.

 

[VenusHalley]

yes, i thought the costume was like made over night or something.

The green dress is actually nice but the blue thingy on top are tacky.

That dress was ugly. Like something a little kid would wear for a birthday party or something. Maybe she can "accidentally" spill something over it, rip it, set it on fire, forget it in Lake Placid, lose the luggage?

 

[Wombat1800]

Imo Nastya seems stronger than Maya but they're still so close...
This competition showed how strong Kamila is too imo. Only 1 ultra-c element and yet she's very equal to Alysa. If both clean Alysa would probably win but still.

If both Kamila and Alysa had skated clean at their respective assignments they would probably both get around 145 points. Considering how close it is and how Kamila landed her 4T on her first try internationally, I'm almost certain they'll add a second one in combination later in the season

 

[Fluture]

Well, Nastya had a nice comeback and she did get a medal but the SP is a problem and was so already last year. She just isn‘t consistent enough with the backloaded combo and it‘s become an unnecessary risk at this point. If she moved the combo to the front and improved on her presentation and expression I‘d still rank her as the better skater between her and Maiia. The scores are so close between the two, it‘s cruel. It will be interesting to see what rusfed is going to do about this..