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At least Anna got this score after being called for 'mistakes'....the judges low-balling her program when they judged it as completely clean would be much much worse.
2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
- Thread starter Spirals for Miles
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*cracks the neck and fingers*
You can't see when the blade hits the ice, nothing can be proven from any angle, all the video evidence is phony!!!!
Lol, I'm joking.
I guess it was, still, the scores are VERY low.
Not just for Anna, for Liza and Young and Yelim too.
Everyone got seriously lowballed here.
The underrotation call was quite unjustified as compared to some of the other skaters today who didn't get called, and her step sequence was level 3 the first time too. Besides, one lost level and one underrotation does not take six whole points off your score.
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she was fast today........ even cant get UR call and she got none of spin goe over 1 which is totally absurd
All I can say is that I am furious.:dev2: When Liza had skated I thought, ok, the judges are kind today, then came Andrews, and the judges were even kinder. I honestly expected Anna to beat Liza with a healthy margin. And on what planet does Anna have 1.12 lower than Liza in PCS?? I love Liza, but Anna's scores were just appalling.
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I’m not sure if we disagree or not.
Really, my main point is that whatever any of us think, it’s what the TP calls that counts, and that what appears really obvious from one angle may not be from the TP’s point of view. It also bothers me that a lot of people who disagree with a call seem to assume it resulted from deliberate bias.
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Early in the season and, honestly, I think the GOE was fair. Anna got high GOE on her 2A and some of her spins. However, her combo and her flip weren't very good today. (it is her first senior performance... she is naturally nervous). Liza and Young You did rotate their triple axels but both obviously deserved negative GOE. Tuk got pretty decent GOE on her other elements. Young You got very good GOE on her other elements but she lost so many levels on her spins and that brought her scores down a lot.
Full rotation on both, much less than 90° at the landings. Difficult spiral entry, good height for a skater's size, neat and tight position in the air, Rippon arms, stable landing right into next choreo element.
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Yelim's GOE seem very low, Starr's GOE and PCS seem too high, Liza was definitely overscored on PCS and spin GOE, Young's PCS seem a little too high. Anna's score makes more sense than anyone else's, but it's not correct in comparison to her competitors. VERY odd scoring.
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I think Anna was robbed on PCs but not so much on tech, sure she could have received higher GOE on her flip but she did make small mistakes on the step sequence, so I can see why she got level 3. As for for the loop, it did look under rotated to me, though with the bad camera angles it's hard to tell for sure.
Honestly I think Liza's PCs were just fine, and I don't think the judges were "kind" to her, but I definitely think Anna deserved higher PCs than Liza.
Out of topic but Young You was also robbed on PCs in this event.
Honestly I think Liza's PCs were just fine, and I don't think the judges were "kind" to her, but I definitely think Anna deserved higher PCs than Liza.
Out of topic but Young You was also robbed on PCs in this event.
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I’m not sure if we disagree or not.
Really, my main point is that whatever any of us think, it’s what the TP calls that counts, and that what appears really obvious from one angle may not be from the TP’s point of view. It also bothers me that a lot of people who disagree with a call seem to assume it resulted from deliberate bias.
Does it matter whether it was deliberate or not? The point is that the panel missed it, that's all and people thought it was wrong, hence they brought it up for discussion where they wanted to.
I just don't see how that's wrong.
And we can go on and on about the marks, but I don't know if you're going to deny that there are times when controversial judging caused by deliberate inflation/deflation did take place. It just does happen sometimes, there were cases of controversial judging in every sport, hence it makes people suspect other events too, and I don't see it as conspiracy, people are suspicious for a reason.
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yeah... it was clean IMO... a very odd UR call.
I don't think there was any particular robbery there.
PCS were generally low for all the skaters who just turned senior, that's why somehow Liza got the highest components. (even though she did improve on transitions and skating skills compared to last season)
on Anna the lack of a 3A and the underrotation on the combo made the difference, but remember there is still the free skate.
Poor Sonya, that was tough.
PCS were generally low for all the skaters who just turned senior, that's why somehow Liza got the highest components. (even though she did improve on transitions and skating skills compared to last season)
on Anna the lack of a 3A and the underrotation on the combo made the difference, but remember there is still the free skate.
Poor Sonya, that was tough.
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The -3Lo did not look underrotated...I first assumed she was called on her 3Lz because it looked way too forward in take off to me and not just prerotation. Her 3F was also really muscled. Everything else should have been higher in GOE.
Comparing with Tuktamysheva there is such a difference in quality for jumps I think it balanced out in the end even though her PCS being lower than Tuktamysheva is hilarious.
Comparing with Tuktamysheva there is such a difference in quality for jumps I think it balanced out in the end even though her PCS being lower than Tuktamysheva is hilarious.
It's ridiculous to think people like Mishin or Tarasova are good old 'grandparents' of all Russian skaters, devoted strictly to the sport as a whole, not the outcomes of their own skaters and favourites.
They are powerful, influential players.
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Those 6 points are exactly from the TES....
TES are exactly where they robbed her.
