2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Bluediamonds09]

Who went to RUSNAT and by what criteria

Qualified as Grand Prix Participants
1 Alena Kostornaya
2 Alexandra Trusova
3 Anna Shcherbakova
4 Alina Zagitova
5 Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
6 Evgenia Medvedeva
7 Sofya Samodurova
8 Serafima Sakhanovich
9 Stanislava Konstantinova
10 Maria Sotskova

Passed the selection as participants in the Grand Prix Finals among juniors (over 14 years old)
1 Victoria Vasilieva
2 Ksenia Sinitsyna

Passed the selection according to the results of the Cup of Russia:
1. Ksenia Tsibinova
2. Anastasia Tarakanova
3. Elizabeth Nugumanova
4. Anastasia Gubanova
5. Anna Frolova
6. Valeria Shulskaya

Forward to the Victory!!!!!!!

Are these the 18 girls that are invited to Russian senior nationals this December?

 

[thatbeatingheart]

I think RusFed could make the selections like Japan did last year. 1-2-4 goes to Europeans (in Japan's case 4CC), and 1-2-3 to Worlds?

But given that most likely it's one of Alina, Zhenya and Liza who will end up in 4th place, I'm not sure they would want that 'consolation prize'. They have all won Euros before after all. Their goal is making Worlds.
But if one of 3A goes down to 4th place and one of the 'older' ones manages to climb on the podium, I could imagine this scenario.

I also like the way Japan handles this but I believe this suggestion has already been made last season and people argued that Europeans is a more prestigious competition than 4CC so it wouldn't be fair to deprive the Bronze medalist of competiting there I guess. Especially since any of the Nats medalists (whoever it may be) has the potential to win Euros. I'm also rather seeing a Cup Final situation happening like last season in case they don't sweep the podium at Euros but if they do, I see no reason to send a different team to Worlds, as sad as it is for all other skaters who'd deserve it.

 

[Nord Stream 2]

Are these the 18 girls that are invited to Russian senior nationals this December?

Yes

 

[Edwin]

According to a press release the luggage of the skaters participating in NKH Trophy stage of the Grand Prix got lost in transit.

The luggage is expected to arrive in Moscow in a couple of day.

In the luggage are not only costumes, personal stuff and presents, but also the skates (!)
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From: https://tass.ru/sport/7196347

 

[Nord Stream 2]

Sports.ru users voted on the poll who will win the Women's Grand Prix Final.

The largest number of votes (40%) was received by Alexandra Trusova.

33% believe that Alena Kostornaya will win in the final, 16% voted for Alina Zagitova.

Anna Shcherbakova gained 6% of the vote, Japanese Rika Kihira - 3%, American Bradie Tennell - 2%.

A total of 25,915 people voted.

 

[Artemisa]

Who went to RUSNAT and by what criteria

Qualified as Grand Prix Participants
1 Alena Kostornaya
2 Alexandra Trusova
3 Anna Shcherbakova
4 Alina Zagitova
5 Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
6 Evgenia Medvedeva
7 Sofya Samodurova
8 Serafima Sakhanovich
9 Stanislava Konstantinova
10 Maria Sotskova

Passed the selection as participants in the Grand Prix Finals among juniors (over 14 years old)
1 Victoria Vasilieva
2 Ksenia Sinitsyna

Passed the selection according to the results of the Cup of Russia:
1. Ksenia Tsibinova
2. Anastasia Tarakanova
3. Elizabeth Nugumanova
4. Anastasia Gubanova
5. Anna Frolova
6. Valeria Shulskaya

Forward to the Victory!!!!!!!

A great selection of skaters !!!

 

[BabySloth]

According to a press release the luggage of the skaters participating in NKH Trophy stage of the Grand Prix got lost in transit.

The luggage is expected to arrive in Moscow in a couple of day.

In the luggage are not only costumes, personal stuff and presents, but also the skates (!)
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From: https://tass.ru/sport/7196347

I hope they get all of it back soon! This would be my nightmare I was a skater. Thank God it didn't happen on their way to the competition.
This is still bad though, they might lose a couple of days of training before GPF?

 

[SkateSkates]

I hope they get all of it back soon! This would be my nightmare I was a skater. Thank God it didn't happen on their way to the competition.
This is still bad though, they might lose a couple of days of training before GPF?

Yes I am very worried for Alina and Aliona. As well as S/B and M/G who seem to have lost their luggage as well. They were all already dealing with a very hard time difference so close to the final, and now they will lose a couple of days. I hope it doesn’t affect their mindsets and they are able to get their skates back ASAP.

I guess it won’t prevent them from doing off ice and most skaters prepare back up skates, but even then you need to adjust to your backups since every pair is slightly different.

 

[Edwin]

Yes I am very worried for Alina and Aliona. As well as S/B and M/G who seem to have lost their luggage as well. They were all already dealing with a very hard time difference so close to the final, and now they will lose a couple of days. I hope it doesn’t affect their mindsets and they are able to get their skates back ASAP.

I guess it won’t prevent them from doing off ice and most skaters prepare back up skates, but even then you need to adjust to your backups since every pair is slightly different.

Aren't there special tote bags for skates that are allowed in the cabin?

 

[rollerblade]

Skate blades are sharp and I doubt commercial airlines would allow it in the cabin. Maybe if they detach the boot part from the blades, the boot part can be carry-on.

 

[Mishaminion]

What would they have to do if they did not get them back? They surely have back ups?

 

[Good Vibes Only]

According to a press release the luggage of the skaters participating in NKH Trophy stage of the Grand Prix got lost in transit.

The luggage is expected to arrive in Moscow in a couple of day.

In the luggage are not only costumes, personal stuff and presents, but also the skates (!)
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From: https://tass.ru/sport/7196347

I don’t know if skaters do this or not, but when I travel for competitions I keep my skates and my dresses in my carry on bag so there is no chance of them getting lost. But with the blades, ice skaters probably aren’t allowed to do that. Hopefully they had their dresses with them. Hopefully they will be able to find the lost luggage.

 

[silveruskate]

Agree. It was definitely within the quarter mark. The second one was almost forward - the panel in France would have probably given her a << but it was a close call either way.

The most rotated one she has done in competition was in the SP here at NHK. That was clean no doubt.

Her 3A seems to be improving from competition to competition - the axis looks much more stable now vs some of the attempts in Finland and France, especially all the ones we saw in practice. I hope it will improve in competition as she gets more comfortable with it.

Hoping Aliona can add her name to the short list of ladies who have landed 3 clean 3A in a competition.

And almost forward isn't <<, it has to be more (worse) than forward to be downgrade.

 

[colormyworld240]

I don't think so. Sofia looked not impressive during the test skates. She has done some serious work since then. And she was lowballed big time same as Liza was lowballed before. Mishin says nothing about Sofia's not getting to the podium - he says that she had to be fourth ahead of the two Japanese. And I agree with him.

Yuhana Yokoi was one of least impressive skaters as seen from the stands in Moscow. Yes, her landings look solid but she fell in the short program and did just 5 triples in the free program.

Mako's landings are hardly better than Sofia's - it's always a hook in replay. She did 6 triples vs. Sofia's 7.

Both of them getting ahead of Sofia is injustice for me - sour grapes for others. Nothing new under the sun.

I disagree with this. While Liza gets a lot of criticism for her choreography, ss, speed, and spins, she has some of the best jumps of all the ladies. Her 3Lz and 3A are massive with very good technique, and her other jumps are quite large as well. On the other hand, Sofia's jumps are just a pre-rotated as everyone else's with half (or less than half) the height. You're comparing one of the best jumpers with one of the worse. I think Liza was lowballed on the GOE for some of her jumps, but Sofia's GOEs were what she deserved. Her jumps were already tiny last season, now they're on the verge of being smaller than Satoko's. And it's not like she's a great spinner or has great SS either. I wouldn't say she is particularly strong in any aspect (relatively) of FS. Unfortunately all her elements are some of the lowest quality of the Russian ladies, so she can't compete with them.

 

[Tolstoj]

According to a press release the luggage of the skaters participating in NKH Trophy stage of the Grand Prix got lost in transit.

The luggage is expected to arrive in Moscow in a couple of day.

In the luggage are not only costumes, personal stuff and presents, but also the skates (!)
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From: https://tass.ru/sport/7196347

Doesn't Aeroflot / Pobeda / whatever company they used, allow customers to store their luggage above their head?

https://www.thesocialpost.it/wp-con...o-a-mano-in-stiva-e1445854256247-1024x504.jpg

Ryanair lets you to do that if you pay a small fee and i always do cause i don't trust other people handling my stuff (or i always fear someone may pick the wrong luggage from the carousel), the one time i didn't they broke it.

It seems such a 2005 issue to me.

 

[Amei]

Sorry SS got low-balled again. This happened at Worlds too. For her to watch 4A get such high scores and get treated like gold by the judges their entire careers and deservedly so sofia must be pulling her hair out at this point getting low balls like she does when she skates so well and clean. No one is saying she should be scoring as high as Eteris angels or Rika. But 183? Not right.

But there's a clear difference in quality between the 4A and Sofia. Elizaveta has stand-out jumps, she might not have much in the way of transitions in/out of them but she has stand-out jumps; outside of her 'sass' what stand-out element does Sofia have?

 

[Amei]

Sports.ru users voted on the poll who will win the Women's Grand Prix Final.

The largest number of votes (40%) was received by Alexandra Trusova.

33% believe that Alena Kostornaya will win in the final, 16% voted for Alina Zagitova.

Anna Shcherbakova gained 6% of the vote, Japanese Rika Kihira - 3%, American Bradie Tennell - 2%.

A total of 25,915 people voted.

:disagree: I hope Anna goes into the GPF and dominates.

 

[fabienne1996]

Doesn't Aeroflot / Pobeda / whatever company they used, allow customers to store their luggage above their head?

https://www.thesocialpost.it/wp-con...o-a-mano-in-stiva-e1445854256247-1024x504.jpg

Ryanair lets you to do that if you pay a small fee and i always do cause i don't trust other people handling my stuff (or i always fear someone may pick the wrong luggage from the carousel), the one time i didn't they broke it.

It seems such a 2005 issue to me.

That luggage is still the hand luggage and not everything can be taken in the cabin, and I think the blades of the skates may be soemthing that they can not take into their cabin/hand luggage but has to be put I to the normal luggage.

 

[Scott512]

But there's a clear difference in quality between the 4A and Sofia. Elizaveta has stand-out jumps, she might not have much in the way of transitions in/out of them but she has stand-out jumps; outside of her 'sass' what stand-out element does Sofia have?

You don't have to be scoring 230 or 240 points like 4A but 183 points is not acceptable for Sofia. SS does not have great standout qualities like Eteris girls do. But her consistency is remarkable and is the defending European champion and yet she gets treated with less respect than Mariah Bell. Hmmmm.

 

[Vilord]

As ssomeone who has gone by airplanes to (syncro)competitions we where allways told to keep our skates in the check in bagage due to them, the blades mostly, not being allowed inside the cabin. And if you think about it it makes sense if you are not allowed small nail scissors due to you being able to use them as weapons and hurt people you would not be allowed sharp blades with sharp toepick either for everyone in the cabins safety. Not that I think any of the competetive skaters are ever going to use their skates to hurt the other passengers it is the job of the people who write these rules to be as paranoid as possible.