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Yep, esp. holding the jumps is very artistic.
2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
- Thread starter Spirals for Miles
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Yep, esp. holding the jumps is very artistic.
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Having watched 4CC ladies SP and RusJrNat ladies SP in a row just one after another I can't help but notice - how much the latter competition was better! It was so much better that it's not even funnyEven jaded Ted Barton was in some state of a shock in the end of the event watching so much quality there
And here I am not even talking about jumps (though it's worthy to mention that all 18 junior and novice girls there did 3-3 combos which weren't mere 3T-3T too) or cleanness (there was only one skater with falls). I mean PCS side of the skates. Maybe what I am going to say will sound too presumptuous for someone now - sorry for thatBut, for me, watched 4CC last flight just before - even novice girls such as Petrosyan or Akatieva - were better in skating skills, transitions and presentation - than any senior lady at 4CC was. Yep, even Tennell (who was best skater at 4CC IMO). They were just this good. Let it sink in you for some time..
Considering the above - arguments of many so called "mature skating" proponents becoming more and more ridiculous. And among them are even those who opposes raising senior age in favor of fair judging of components - being sure that it's effective fix for juniors TES advantage. I wonder - are they even understand that if judges will start to judge PCS fairly- corresponding to ISU rules criterias and not reputation - and judging just what they see on ice - the seniors will lose in PCS too?Yes, seniors looks more mature, for sure - but there isn't such criteria in PCS, you know
In the end - watching PCS judging in both these competitions - I realized that it turned to farce completely. There was this difference between what was shown on ice and actual scores. Seriously, watching like some mediocre skate at 4CC was getting 60+ score (any skater at RusJrNat with such performance would get 50 at best) and watching how brilliant skates at RusJrNat are getting mere 60+ (any "mature" lady with such performance would get 70+ easy) I can't help but feel myself deceived. Like ISU is just bunch of con artists who tries to sell some expired food to gullible customers. How should I call this? When novices and juniors PCS are limited artificially and they put special ceiling for them until their body matures and at the same time reputable veteran just running in circles in rink are getting high PCS/GOEs? Ah, yes - it's ageism discrimination. Well, it was just my 2 cents on the wave of first emotions after the events. I am not even sure what my point was for nowMaybe that if this continues further - spectators will just lose any trust to judges at all - or there will be massive migration to junior competitions. Something needs to be changed in judging approach, I guess
Let what sink in? The only thing sinking in is the time spent reading what I think is such a load of rubbish.
No, I don't understand that. Like I said, different tastes. Holding moves is something you can do in ice shows. For me, it has nothing to do with competitive skating.
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As much as I like Kamila, I feel sad that Daria Usacheva wasn't scored more than her. In my view all of her jump elements were better, whereas Kamila had the better spins (but then jumps count more). And then I preferred Daria's performance as well.
Daria's performance is a great figure skating short program. Kamila's performance is a piece of art.
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I want to see in the Olympics 2022 Kostornaya, Synitsina and Usacheva.
No Shcherbakova, Trusova and Kamila, please!
No Shcherbakova, Trusova and Kamila, please!
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We don’t have any authority here. You need to send this petition to the Russian Federation.
I want Shcherbakova, Valieva and Gubanova!
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Shcherbakova with her poor skating skills, small jumpies and baby quads? :/
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You can lodge a formal request on the local figure skating department in Alpha Centauri.
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Yes, only once those invisible wings unfurl to keep them soaring in the air, that’s when we can talk the true artistic quality.
Anna won the most competitive tournament in the World two times in a row, have some respect.
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Psst, you are talking to someone eager to show her quint jumps to Trusova a few pages ago. I am still waiting for that video.
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Was not fair. What about her wrong lutz edges never getting called, her small jumps with high GOE that they should not receive and her prerotated quads also with high GOE? No, not fair.
Your permanent hating of Anna is very disgusting
Yes, Shcherbakova with her musicality, great jumps and spins and fantastic quads, and most of all - her magic
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In two years Russia will be allotted six spots for the ladies in the Olympic figure skating so you will see Anna Sasha and Kamila there among the six.
I'm surprised to see no Tuktik on your approved list. Also, you got 2! skaters from team Tutberidze, wow
I will be rooting for Liza, she is giving a hope for those matured ladies who might be a bit discouraged by the upcoming youngsters
I have tremendous respect for Tuktik now, such a fighter, never thought she could actually go for quads
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I have permanent hate for everything that is unfair and for everything that is cheating, sorry, but not sorry. Prefer skaters with better technique.
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How much longer until the junior ladies long program??? I can’t wait!!!
Predicting 1. Kamila 2. Daria 3. A 12yo novice
Predicting 1. Kamila 2. Daria 3. A 12yo novice
