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Quebec discussing whether to cancel next week’s world figure skating championships
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/spo...er-to-cancel-next-weeks-world-figure-skating/

Just today, they announced a big line up and performances for the opening ceremony - a who's who of Canadian Figure Skating stars: https://montreal2020.com/skate-cana...-isu-world-figure-skating-championships-2020/

I have tickets to every event; however, I haven't booked my hotel or transportation yet because I just don't know what's going to happen. Luckily, I live in Ottawa which is only a 2 hour drive away so I can make these decisions at the last minute but I'm cognizant of the fact that many of you live much further away so the repercussions are much greater for you.
 
in Germany there are over 1000 confirmed cases now, yet German government has yet to lock down the country

According to estimates, the 2017/18 flu wave cost the lives of around 25,100 people in Germany. Nobody has said a single word about it. With the corona virus, which is highly contagious but otherwise much more harmless, the world suddenly loses its mind. It is so absurd.
 
Just today, they announced a big line up and performances for the opening ceremony - a who's who of Canadian Figure Skating stars: https://montreal2020.com/skate-cana...-isu-world-figure-skating-championships-2020/

I have tickets to every event; however, I haven't booked my hotel or transportation yet because I just don't know what's going to happen. Luckily, I live in Ottawa which is only a 2 hour drive away so I can make these decisions at the last minute but I'm cognizant of the fact that many of you live much further away so the repercussions are much greater for you.

Same for me, but I’ve decided to just drive home.
 
What's happening in Italy is a big warning sign,
Just today 1800 new cases and 100 deaths... :(

I think all countries should avoid the possibility of that at all costs,
Even if it seems like they're overreacting with restrictions
 
Surely Skate Canada/the ISU/Evenko will be insured? Can they legally cancel without refunding?

I think the event promoter has the right not to issue refunds. I also think that refunds would be issued in the event of a cancellation. It's just good and fair policy.
 
I'm wondering if the competition is held without an audience will it be televised ... perhaps by CBC?
 
I'm wondering if the competition is held without an audience will it be televised ... perhaps by CBC?

I think the ISU would still make a broadcast that would air on it's various partnerships channels (CBC, NBC, etc etc). For territories where they don't have a broadcasting partner they might even provide a live geotargeted feed on youtube, like with that they do for the JGP.
 
According to estimates, the 2017/18 flu wave cost the lives of around 25,100 people in Germany. Nobody has said a single word about it. With the corona virus, which is highly contagious but otherwise much more harmless, the world suddenly loses its mind. It is so absurd.

Fried - I read up on the 2017-2018 influenza outbreak in Germany which I understand was a very severe and abnormal event - so I understand where your opinion is coming from. In Canada - a country of 37,500,000 - we had 3,500 deaths and 12,200 hospitalizations in 2018-19, so a much lower proportion than your country.

However, I would like to point out a few important differences between seasonal influenza and COVID-19
1. Case fatality rate (risk of dying if you get infected) for influenza is estimated at 0.1%; COVID-19 between 1 and 2% and higher in some regions and definitely higher if you are older (like me)
2. There are influenza vaccines that will greatly lower the risk of severe morbidity due to the circulating influenza virus (here in Canada the vaccine is free and you can walk into any pharmacy and get vaccinated on your lunch break - no appointment needed - last year 42% of Canadians got the flu vaccine); there is NO vaccine for COVID-19
3. Following on point 2 - influenza viruses circulate in global populations every year so there is a level of "herd" immunity from past exposures; there is no such herd immunity for COVID-19 so that there is a much higher potential for disease within a community as the population is 100% naive.

So you are correct - influenza is a very dangerous disease - my goodness why do we not all get vaccinated every year! But COVID-19 has the potential to be much more dangerous than the seasonal influenza. And until there is a vaccine with good efficacy that will be widely available to the world, I would support a very proactive precautionary approach to this infection rather than the much less effective reactionary one.
 
I'm wondering if the competition is held without an audience will it be televised ... perhaps by CBC?

I'm sure the televised schedule would remain according to plan. It's a very practical solution to hold the event without an audience, and I'd guess the ISU earns a lot more revenue from television rights for the event than they do ticket sales anyway. I almost think that is the only solution that works, given that there are so many ways the virus could be passed around. For example, someone with the virus could throw a stuffed animal onto the ice, passing it along to the child who retrieves the animal, to the skater, to the coach who later holds it, etc.
 
Weirdly, people may think the situation in a given country is very dire based on their government's hardline response. The government's response may in turn be more extreme than its medical experts advise, purely because it doesn't want to be accused by the people of being passive. In Singapore where I have friends, the government issued masks to every household *while simultaneously reminding them that masks are of limited use in preventing transmission*. So basically, they were saying "hey, here's your security blanket that you wanted."

Certainly travel restrictions, masks etc. are important in some cases (between which countries? Which type of mask, and for whom?), but the subtleties that dictate when to use them often get lost on the public.

Regarding the World Championships, regardless of the outcome I just hope that the Quebec government will heed expert advice and not simply bow to public pressure. Extending screening measures to all spectators, putting hand sanitiser dispensers everywhere and sterilising common surfaces in the arena at frequent intervals sound like sensible suggestions, given that they are already in use in airports and public transport elsewhere in Canada.
 
I think the event promoter has the right not to issue refunds. I also think that refunds would be issued in the event of a cancellation. It's just good and fair policy.

It's mind-boggling to me that we're even talking about whether refunds are possible in the event of cancellation. If Worlds is called off (or if audiences are not allowed to attend), of course refunds should be issued, no question. To not do so would not only be unfair but would further feed into the virus hysteria. Why risk buying tickets or making reservations for anything if you could be throwing your money away with nothing in return?

I understand why vulnerable individuals want to minimize their exposure in these uncertain times, but we're gonna have much bigger problems in the world if everyone is socially isolating themselves and not leaving their homes. People still need to live their lives and support the economy. The US stock market plummeted 2,000 points today. We could be looking at a serious recession that impacts many different industries with far-reaching consequences, long after the coronavirus threat is presumably contained.

Luckily I see many travel/event companies (Expedia, Stubhub, etc.) are trying to encourage customers to keep making plans by offering flexible refund/cancellation policies due to the coronavirus.
 
Whatever they do, I hope they do it soon and make an official announcement. Italy has extended Coronavirus lockdown to entire country.
 
According to estimates, the 2017/18 flu wave cost the lives of around 25,100 people in Germany. Nobody has said a single word about it. With the corona virus, which is highly contagious but otherwise much more harmless, the world suddenly loses its mind. It is so absurd.

Because we're at the beginning stages of it right now. A month ago Italy had no cases and now it has 100 deaths per day and these numbers are increasing exponentially. They do not have enough hospital beds or respirators for people and are starting to make decisions about only giving resources to those most likely to survive - does that normally happen with the flu? Keep in mind that even though its not as deadly in young people, many people still need hospitalization for breathing assistance. I think we are just beginning to see how devastating this disease can be.
 
Case fatality rate (risk of dying if you get infected) for influenza is estimated at 0.1%; COVID-19 between 1 and 2% and higher in some regions and definitely higher if you are older (like me)

While I respect your worries and definitely agree that the virus is not "harmless", the COVID-19 fatality rate remains somewhat uncertain. I found this article quite reasonable: https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/coronavirus-mortality-rate-lower-than-we-think.html
Generally I would recommend looking up primary medical literature (e.g. on Pubmed - by the way, Springer Nature is making COVID-19 research free to access!) rather than relying on popular opinion pieces like this, but I think they raise some good points. The total case number is frequently under-reported due to asymptomatic patients, plus the smoking rate and existing pulmonary conditions in China would have worsened apparent fatality rates there.

Of course it is still quite a danger to people in the risk groups (age, existing immune/heart/lung issues) so the Worlds organisers/local government will still have to consider their plans very carefully. The spectators are more of a concern than the athletes - maybe special attention could be paid towards vulnerable groups of spectators?
 
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https://globalnews.ca/news/6650928/quebec-figure-skating-championships-coronavirus/

To contradict the Russian article posted upthread, there has been no official decision yet. As of now, Skate Canada plans to keep the event on with this caveat.

“As the situation is changing quickly, we continue to monitor new developments of the evolution of COVID-19 in co-operation with the ISU and will follow the recommendations provided by the World Health Organization and the Public Health Agency of Canada,” the statement said.

There are quotes from KMT as she is still training for the event.
 
I understand why vulnerable individuals want to minimize their exposure in these uncertain times, but we're gonna have much bigger problems in the world if everyone is socially isolating themselves and not leaving their homes.

Yes! The situation is not black and white (i.e. do nothing vs prepare for the apocalypse). The outbreak shouldn't last longer than a few months (based on scientific knowledge and evidenced by the current situation in China) so we need to also plan for what happens after (e.g. economic, mental health repercussions).

New Zealand has 5 cases, no human-to-human transmission, yet the economic impact is already predicted to be massive... If sickness rates increase in the next year it will be due to poverty from increased homelessness.
 
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